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post #31 of 46 (permalink) Old May 17th, 18, 5:29 PM
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My 1st car was a 1971 Cutlass 'S'. Not exactly a hot rod with its 350 2bbl and 2.56 gears. I'd probably still have that car if it hadn't got wrecked. I was turning left off a secondary highway and a guy in a truck apparently didn't see me and rear ended the car hard. Pushed the trunk into the back seat and there was a 1" gap between the top of the door glass and the roof after the crash. Somehow didn't get hurt in that one.
I still love the styling of those cars they are much cheaper to buy than a Chevelle. If all you want is a cruiser, you can't go wrong with a BOP A body. If you want to make it fast, that's a different story.
Chris, I liked the 71 Cutlass, too..........back in 71. The 72's had just come out, and I was trying to upsize from a 68 Mustang. I was negotiating on a holdover, a car that was technically a year old new car now that the 72's were out. I had gone back and forth with the salesman, and finally gave him my final offer. No go.
Two nights later, he called to accept my final offer. I told him I had just gotten home with my 72 Roadrunner. He wasn't happy.
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post #32 of 46 (permalink) Old May 17th, 18, 7:27 PM
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I guess a skylark is about as bad as a el camino. neat cars to see others spend their money on, but not something most would spend their own money on. If it was a chevelle I'm sure it would have sold quickly for more money. Some do restore cars out of appreciation of what the car is. Not what can be made on it. jim
Strangely enough, I've never had a problem selling an El Camino. Call me weird but I've never owned a Chevelle. I like them but have no desire to own one.

Probably the only oddball car I've ever built, was a 1953 Stude. My brother and I swapped the 383 engine, Torqueflite trans, and 3.23 rear w/SureGrip out of a low-mile 1968 Roadrunner into the Stude, over a Summer back in 1970. That car was a serious sleeper and I blew off a lot of iron, before folks got wise to it. Often wonder where that thing ended up as it was well-built.

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post #33 of 46 (permalink) Old May 18th, 18, 3:00 PM
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I'm all about oddball cars, I enjoy having something that everyone else doesn't have. Here is my advice:

1. Research parts availability
2. Research resale values
3. Buy the best, most complete car available.
4. Most importantly, have fun! , and I believe if you do the above, you will have fun!
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Try restoring one of these:
AMC was always the underdog, but the Javelin & AMX, plus a few selected Ambassadors, Rebels & Matadors were actually pretty cool. Rebel Machines were a bit over the top, but that is just what the Doctor ordered. I always thought that AMC did a nice job on '67 Ambassador convertibles & the last Marlins, yet buyers stayed away in droves.
Dad used to say that the only people that bought AMCs were professors & retired folks. Based on observations at the time he may have been mostly right (as usual). Except for Shirley Shahan, Wally Booth & Mark Donahue.

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or one of these:
That '63 Fury looks like it has a 426 wedge. Is it a 413 though? Or a well disguised 440?

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My oddballs..

'67 is a 4 speed..
Ah, Pontiac! I love many of them. The Grand Prix was art in motion from 1962-72 (68s excepted as they looked like trussed turkeys). I have a special love for the unique Canadian Pontiacs as they are all oddballs according to Pontiac fans and restoration supply places. I love the Canadian Grande Parisiennes & 2+2s. I can never bring myself to actually call a Beaumont a Pontiac. That argument will never be resolved.

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Remember the "Dare to be different" movement in the late 80's/early 90's? I do...

First, did a 1962 Dodge Custom 880 2 door hardtop,, one of 1761 built. Was Dodge's version of the Chrysler 330. Mine, ,440, 727, 3:23 posi, A/C. Ps, Power disc brakes. Lost my butt on that car.

Then,

1956 Studebaker President Pinehurst 2 door wagon, one of 1522 built. 350/700R4/3:55 8 inch, Mustang II, Vintage Air, power windows, tilt, great road car.....sold it to someone who had to have it more than me.

I think I'll stay mainstream with Chevy's from now on............
That Stude sounds really cool! Those Dodge 880s weren't sold in Canada. Chrysler was kinda funny in Canada back then, they sold the mid-size Polara through '64 but never the 880, then in '65 they dropped the mid-size Coronet from the Canadian lineup and started selling the Big Polaras & Monacos, then in '66 they sold the whole range. Still some years they sold the Valiant, then both the Dart & Valiant both sold as Valiants. Simultaneously! Mopar had some extremely quirky styling back then courtesy of Virgil Exner. Dare to be different indeed!

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That '63 Fury looks like it has a 426 wedge. Is it a 413 though? Or a well disguised 440?

Well disguised 440, it was still running the push button torqueflite.
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All, and I mean all odd ball cars have a home these days. It is called the Hot Rod Power Tour. We have "long hauled" ten years in a row now & seen everything you could imagine. And lots of things that you never could imagine. Including most of what has been already named here. Now as far as getting your money back..............

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. Chevelles are so much easier.
My Dad has Nash's and Packard's, so my brother bought a '51 Packard and my sister a '29 Nash. Years ago we were at a National Nash show and being an hour away my sister was going to drive their car to the show. They had on going fuel pump, carb, fuel tank issues and were unable to show it. I told them sorry it didn't workout for them and my Brother-in-Law became unglued and went off saying "we'll I just can't open a catalog and order parts like you can do". I said nothing, but appreciate the amount of resources we have for our cars.

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That curved body crease that sweeps the side of the '68 just obliterates the look of the car.
This^ and the skirted rear wheel openings also... works on some cars, but not a 68-69 Skylark

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All, and I mean all odd ball cars have a home these days. It is called the Hot Rod Power Tour. We have "long hauled" ten years in a row now & seen everything you could imagine. And lots of things that you never could imagine. Including most of what has been already named here. Now as far as getting your money back..............
Amen.
Most old cars are oddballs if you think about it. Outside of the standard catalog car, that is.
There really aren't that many cars you can find every part for in a catalog outside of the usual suspects, Tri-fives, Chevelle, early Camaro, 65-70 Mustang etc.
Even the some of the big dollar Mopars still don't have a lot of repro stuff available.


Oddballs are easier (and probably more "in") than ever with ebay, FB and other online sources.
Besides, with the rat (rods and muscle) and traditional hot rod movement and Roadkill-ish builds, there are fewer people restoring cars to OEM now.

There's a lot of "just get it running and drive the heck out if it" going on now.
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Amen.
Most old cars are oddballs if you think about it. Outside of the standard catalog car, that is.
There really aren't that many cars you can find every part for in a catalog outside of the usual suspects, Tri-fives, Chevelle, early Camaro, 65-70 Mustang etc.
Even the some of the big dollar Mopars still don't have a lot of repro stuff available.


Oddballs are easier (and probably more "in") than ever with ebay, FB and other online sources.
Besides, with the rat (rods and muscle) and traditional hot rod movement and Roadkill-ish builds, there are fewer people restoring cars to OEM now.

There's a lot of "just get it running and drive the heck out if it" going on now.
The latest trend is definitely towards getting the most complete car that you can & doing exactly that with it. Every now & then I will come across a complete (just parked that way years ago) interesting car & I have to slap myself a few times to emphasize the NO!!! in the back of my mind.
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Amen.
Most old cars are oddballs if you think about it. Outside of the standard catalog car, that is.
There really aren't that many cars you can find every part for in a catalog outside of the usual suspects, Tri-fives, Chevelle, early Camaro, 65-70 Mustang etc.
Even the some of the big dollar Mopars still don't have a lot of repro stuff available....
recently started a frame off 72 Dodge D100 stepside. talk about NO support. No OEM stuff and very little repro. I've had to buy 3 additional parts trucks. luckily no one wants these trucks so with 4 trucks, I'm in $3000 with that alone. I'll be fab-ing most of the dash/interior and HVAC. All in the name of fun...
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there's a 63 comet for sale in sierra vista for 1300 obo, looks complete minus some trim. Almost tempted to call on it just because it's different. jim
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recently started a frame off 72 Dodge D100 stepside. talk about NO support. No OEM stuff and very little repro. I've had to buy 3 additional parts trucks. luckily no one wants these trucks so with 4 trucks, I'm in $3000 with that alone. I'll be fab-ing most of the dash/interior and HVAC. All in the name of fun...
Pics?
Have you seen the Roadkill "Mopar Muscle Truck"?

http://www.roadkill.com/wp-content/u...hevy-Dodge.jpg
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`With a little imagination and work they can look pretty cool.
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`With a little imagination and work they can look pretty cool.
call me odd but I actually liked the rear wheel skirts that were on some of these cars.

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