Excellent coverage of casting information. A must have for the numbers crowd.
Too generic about info on trim tags and incorrectly states that all 65 to 71 trim tags indicate a V8 engine and that no 6-cyl engine identification number are stamped on any trim tag.
Fact: The trim tag style (on Chevelles at least) do not denote a V8 or 6-cyl as the VIN does by the third number (from 65 to 72). I have numerous 65-71 trim tags with styles such as 131xx, 133xx, and 135xx. It doesn't mean a 6-cyl engine (although all examples I have are) but does show there are odd 3rd digit trim tags. I also have several trim tags with an even 3rd digit but VIN has odd 3rd digit.
Product Details: "Chevrolet By the Numbers 1965 - 1969" by team_chevelle - posted products and: - Rating: 9.00
Last Review Posted by Dale McIntosh - posted products and: 11:33pm
The 70-75 "...by the numbers" book continues with the excellent material in at least the 65-69 book with casting numbers, date castings, etc.
Still advocates that no Fisher Body plate would have an odd 3rd digit - e.g., "On 1970 and 1971 cars, the Model Identification number is the first five digits of the VIN. While it appears that the Model Identification number alsp appears on the firewall trim tag (Fisher Body Plate), this is not the case. While most of the trim tag digits match the VIN, the engine identification code on the trim tag always indicates the car has a V8 engine, whether or not it actually does." This is where I beg to differ. I have photos of two 1970 body plates and one 1971 body plate with an odd 3rd digit and VINs to match.
Goes on to state, "On 1972 cars, the Model Identification number is listed on the firewall trim tag. On 1972 models the trim tag engine code identification should match the car's original engine." Incorrect so far as Chevelles are concerned. Engine identification codes are not shown on 1972 Chevelle trim tags, they are shown on the VIN plate.
Product Details: "Chevrolet by the Numbers: 1970-1975" by team_chevelle - posted products and: - Rating:
Last Review Posted by Dale McIntosh - posted products and: 5:34pm
For 1964 thorugh 1967 Chevelles the book says the VIN plate is, "...a plate welded to the left front door hing pillar post facing the driver." when in fact, the VIN plate is riveted, not welded.
On description of Fisher Body plates the author states on multiple occasions that the Style number indicates a V8 or 6-cyl engine. Not correct. The Style is a trim level only - numerous examples have been found where the body plate may say 13411 (a V8 by the books criteria) and the VIN is 13311, a 6-cylinder. Have seen too many examples for this to be a fluke.
Author also states, "The BODY NUMBER consists of a prefix designating assembly plant and the sequential unit production number at the specific factory (example: B100001 is the first car built at the Baltimore factory." This is also incorrect. What the author is describing is the VIN (e.g,. B100001 and the explanation) when in fact the BODY NUMBER is asigned by Fisher Body and has nothing to do with sequential production number. Up to 1969 the body numbers do appear to be sequential for particular model (i.e., convertible, hardtop, sedan, wagon). From 1969 through 1972 at least, the BODY NUMBER is not sequential and apparently is a data processing number asigned to the body for tracking purposes and are in no way sequential.
Product Details: "by John Gunnell" by team_chevelle - posted products and: - Rating: 8.00
Last Review Posted by Dale McIntosh - posted products and: 3:12am
I\'ve been using the system for about a year and I like it. As mentioned, the rinse must be done with a good filter in place and if your local water is fairly hard (like ours in southern Oklahoma), it takes a while to ensure your rinsing gets the \'hard\' water off the car. I still use a California water blade and chamois to finish up the job instead of letting the car air dry.