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Old Aug 5th, 11, 2:17 PM
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Default Summit &/or Kirker Base Coat

Does anyone have experience with the Summit Base Coat or the new Kirker Black Diamond base coat?
How did it cover?
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Old Aug 5th, 11, 5:22 PM
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Probably not exactly what you are looking for, but I just shot the underside of my hood and did my steering column with the Kirker Hot Rod Black single stage and it came out nice. Paint flowed and covered well. I am using for all my semi gloss coats on the firewall, wheel wells, Dash, and upper door and pillars.
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Old Aug 6th, 11, 9:11 PM
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Just got back from the Street Rod Nationals and saw what looked like a good paint deal.
There was a Napa booth there and a Rep from Sherwin Williams was pushing a piant kit that included a gallon of urethane primer, sealer, base and clear along with required reducers and hardeners in the Finish One brand for under $600.00. You had to pick from 25 colors from the Barret Jackson collector color series. Any one have any experience with this paint? Is it decent stuff?
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Old Aug 7th, 11, 7:32 AM
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You are going to get a lot of greif here for asking about a cheaper paint line. I see no problem with using this stuff and a friend of mine used the whole Eastwood system and his car turned out great. They feel you get what you pay for. But from some of the cars I have seen using the cheaper systems they work fine. I am going to use all SPI stuff on my car.
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Old Aug 7th, 11, 8:16 AM
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Cheap paint has it's place. Yes, I like using higher end paint but depending on the job a lower line is fine. However, jobbers have lower lines available so there is no need to buy on-line. Unless your geography and jobbers have limitations, or they do not offer a paint you want. Eastwood and Summit do not make their own paint. They prey on peoples' naivite.
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Old Aug 7th, 11, 9:49 AM
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While I don't know anything about the BJ stuff I have used the finish one
high build and clear and I like both of them very well for less expensive
paint. I did use dimension black base but if I were to paint color I would
use the Ultra base for color match. Here is a picture of one of my customers
cars I shot back in Jan.

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Old Aug 7th, 11, 10:58 PM
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Summit stuff covers really well. I wrote a little write up on here about it. I wouldnt hesitate to use it again and I am a die hard PPG guy.
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Old Aug 7th, 11, 11:40 PM
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Summit stuff covers really well. I wrote a little write up on here about it. I wouldnt hesitate to use it again and I am a die hard PPG guy.
Micky, Summit's bc/cc is Dimension base and epoxy with Finish 1 high build
and clear. Their single stage is Kirker

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Old Aug 8th, 11, 7:13 AM
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I'm kinda lost here. I went to summit and looked at the paint and can't seem to find bc/cc kits. The description says 1 gallon. Does that mean you have to buy the clear seperately?

Example: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SHZ-SWBC502V/

I see they have clears as well in the < $100 range, so you buy the base and the clear? does each set have it's own set of hardners...

From the looks of it, you buy all the hardners, reducers seperately.
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Old Aug 8th, 11, 8:07 AM
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I'm kinda lost here. I went to summit and looked at the paint and can't seem to find bc/cc kits. The description says 1 gallon. Does that mean you have to buy the clear seperately?

Example: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SHZ-SWBC502V/

I see they have clears as well in the < $100 range, so you buy the base and the clear? does each set have it's own set of hardners...

From the looks of it, you buy all the hardners, reducers seperately.
From the link you would buy 1 gal of base, 2 quarts of reducer and a small
hardener. A gal or reducer should be very close to the cost of the two quarts.

Same with clears and base as far as their own hardeners. Some reducers can
be used on other coatings you would need to look at the base, clear and
primer tech sheets. Also pay a lot of attention to the temp. range as that
plays a very big role in your results.

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Old Aug 8th, 11, 9:08 AM
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Chucks68SS the Nova looks great. I have been trying to find out who the paint manufacturer actually is and Summit was also at the Nats but wouldn't give up the name. I told him that I have shot TecBase before along with some PPG and he said that I would like the paint. Curious have you used anything from SPI, I can't find anyone locally that has and no one locally is a vendor.
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Old Aug 8th, 11, 5:54 PM
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From the link you would buy 1 gal of base, 2 quarts of reducer and a small
hardener. A gal or reducer should be very close to the cost of the two quarts.

Same with clears and base as far as their own hardeners. Some reducers can
be used on other coatings you would need to look at the base, clear and
primer tech sheets. Also pay a lot of attention to the temp. range as that
plays a very big role in your results.

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Ok, so the 'add to cart' would get me 1 gal of base paint only.

I kinda expected Summit to have a simple package setup, but I can see where you need to select the specific temp range.
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Old Aug 8th, 11, 6:11 PM
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Ok, so the 'add to cart' would get me 1 gal of base paint only.

I kinda expected Summit to have a simple package setup, but I can see where you need to select the specific temp range.
How would they know how much you are painting and what the job entails?
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Old Aug 9th, 11, 8:04 AM
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Chucks68SS the Nova looks great. I have been trying to find out who the paint manufacturer actually is and Summit was also at the Nats but wouldn't give up the name. I told him that I have shot TecBase before along with some PPG and he said that I would like the paint. Curious have you used anything from SPI, I can't find anyone locally that has and no one locally is a vendor.
I got the paint info from one of the R&D guys in Ohio. Also a little give away
is in the product number from Summit which starts with SW

If you shot PPG you will have no trouble with this at all.

Yes I did try one cup of SPI epoxy primer from a friend that bought some. It
was fine but to me not all the hoopla I've read about. You do get a little more
product but I will stick with SW and my local jobber. Btw you can get the
Finish 1/Dimension a little cheaper than Summit if you have an local SW
automotive store in you area.

Also thanks for the compliment on the car...it looks a lot better than the
picture.

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Old Aug 9th, 11, 9:01 AM
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Chucks68SS one last question - would you hesitate to use this product on your own project that you have major hours in?
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