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Old Apr 23rd, 11, 10:58 AM
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Default Good oil for solid roller BBC break-in ??

I assume no need for high ZDDP stuff since it is a roller motor. Machinist said not to use synthetic for the break-in.
Typical BBC, standard 1/16, 1/16, 3/16 ring package.
Isky EZ-X rollers (no needles)
Typical main/rod clearances.
Moroso 22175 Standard volume pump (which looked like an M77)

Got a suggestion for a good conventional oil for break-in?
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Old Apr 23rd, 11, 11:09 AM
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Any conventional good quality oil will be fine regardless of brand. I would use either the Shell or Delo diesel oil as first choice but any quality oil will be fine.
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Old Apr 23rd, 11, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: Good oil for solid roller BBC break-in ??

brad penn has a break in oil,and after that I would highly recommend there 10/30 high performace oil,

works for street/strip [detergents]and still has zddp [zinc-phosphate] which other areas of the motor will still appreciate

I use it with a k&n 3002 oil filter and a moroso block off adapter for full time filtering

best place I know to get brad penn oil is here>>
http://theoilwarehouse.com/?mainURL=...acing_Oil.html

btw,nice choice of lifters,I was glad to hear ron [isky] speak highly of the brad penn oil when speaking to him about the lifters when they first came out
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Old Apr 23rd, 11, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: Good oil for solid roller BBC break-in ??

All I use is regular 10/30 detergent motor oil. Get maybe an hour running time on the oil, then do a filter and oil change. Overkill? ??? For oil, Typically Castrol , or whatever I can get a deal on. JMHO, breaking in a roller motor is more about having valve train adjusted correct, getting timing set and checking for leaks,etc. Especially with new valve springs, I like to get the motor just up to operating temp, then shut it down to heat cycle the valve springs.
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Old Apr 23rd, 11, 11:31 AM
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I used Shell delo 1st time to break in roller motor then switched to syn ............last time Ron at ISKY suggested the Brad Penn dino when I switched to ez roll lifters .......used that ....
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Old Apr 23rd, 11, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: Good oil for solid roller BBC break-in ??

Found a dealer of Brad Penn near where I live. He has the straight 30w for break-in and carries everything but the 10w-30 racing oil. He stocks the 10w-40 racing oil. Think that would be good enough for street/strip or should I order the 10w-30 from the online place mentioned in the above post?

EDIT, added info..
The "break-in" oil has no zinc/phos listed... http://www.amref.com/CMSFiles/File/b...-In_Oil_PB.pdf
The dealer on the phone said they remove those additives to allow stuff to "wear in" faster.

But the 10w-30, 10w-40, 15w-40 racing oil does..
http://www.amref.com/CMSFiles/File/b...HP_Oils_PB.pdf
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Old Apr 23rd, 11, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: Good oil for solid roller BBC break-in ??

You guys get way to worried about oil, particularly for a street engine. Any brand name 10-30 or 20-50 will be fine. Nothing special for a roller motor.
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Old Apr 23rd, 11, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: Good oil for solid roller BBC break-in ??

Just because you have roller lifters doesn't mean you don't need a quality oil with a good additive package. If anything, you should be buying the best oil to keep those very spendy lifters alive. We use Gibbs BR for break in, then something like HR-2 until the rings are fully seated.

We saw an increase in roller lifter failures around the same time we started seeing more flat tappet lifter failures, back when they started to take "the good stuff" out of the oil.
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Old Apr 23rd, 11, 1:33 PM
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Default Re: Good oil for solid roller BBC break-in ??

Some people take the cake, so to say...You spend all that money on a good rotating assembly and then more money on a roller cam and lifters.

Then you want to skimp on oil!!!!
I do not get the theory behind this thinking.
I use joe gibbs in all my breakin stuff...I also add zddplus to my mobil 1 synthetic in all my vehicles just 1/2 to 1/3 of the bottle depending on how much oil it holds....

When i visit my friend who owns his own cam shop i see the results of off the shelf oils and what they will do to roller cams...could be the oil could be wrong spring pressures....
Not only does zddp protect cam and lifters but it also protects wrist pins and bearings in the same manner......
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Old Apr 23rd, 11, 1:52 PM
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I use Rotella 15w-40........ I must be a fool
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Old Apr 23rd, 11, 2:12 PM
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Default Re: Good oil for solid roller BBC break-in ??

Not trying to skimp on oil $$. Just trying to see what was good for break-in. I was planning on switching over to Torco synthetic after the break-in which sure aint cheap! But, if the Brad Penn (also green-ish in color like the Torco) will do the job and the spec sheet shows good amounts of Zinc/phos, I'd use it.
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Old Apr 23rd, 11, 2:31 PM
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I used the rotella in my ford i stopped 2 years ago when i noticed consumption problems,,,usually i would use 1/2 quart in 2500-3000 miles
then something changed in the oil,,, i was using 1 quart in 1500 miles. this was after a year and a half of using it

went back to mobil 1 and after the second oil change i am back to 1/2 quart in 2500-3000 miles
This vehicle is used mainly as a work horse always pulling heavy loads
I get 2mpg better with the mobil 1 also. so it must be cutting down on friction..royal purple runs the same as the mobil 1 in my testing

I do not run rollers i still like my flat tappits and i like to rev the snot out of them too.

ShawnT have you been using rotella for a long time and have you noticed any consumption issues.

I do put a lot of miles on my stuff,, average now is 15-20k miles per car a year 3 cars as daily drivers
a few years ago it was 2 cars and 73k on 1 and 45k on the other a year
That is a bunch of oil changes
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Castrol GTX 20-50. All I ever used in my engines.
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I use the rotella for a break in type oil on ft cams with break in springs and oil. I run amsoil in my 496 but broke it in with rotella
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