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Old Jul 13th, 10, 7:22 AM
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Default Difference between midnight blue pearl and midnight blue metallic?

I want to paint my 71 ss midnight blue but cant figure out the difference between the pearl or metallic. They look the same in the shade but whats the difference when there in the sun, different agnels ext.. ext.. I also want to do a black ss stripe and i dont like how in some pictures the black stripe seems gray at certain angels is flat tuxedo black the way to go on the stripe?
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Old Jul 13th, 10, 7:41 AM
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the difference between the pearl or metallic.
One is a metallic. has metallic in the paint.
The other is pearl based. has pearl in the paint.

http://www.autos.com/auto-repair/met...earl-car-paint



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Old Jul 13th, 10, 7:52 AM
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yeah but when you look at them whats the difference, lighter darker shinnier
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Old Jul 13th, 10, 8:14 AM
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yeah but when you look at them whats the difference, lighter darker shinnier
yes. no. maybe.
I gave you a link that explains what the difference is.
If you don't get it, I can't help.



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Old Jul 13th, 10, 9:19 AM
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I would recommend using both methods. Use the metallic in the blue, then put a hint of pearl in the clearcoat.

A painter recommended that mix to me years ago when he repainted a car of mine, and it came out incredible. Couldn't see the pearl so much at night, but in the sun WOW. The metallic is a bit more subdued, the pearl makes it pop IMO.
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Old Jul 13th, 10, 10:07 AM
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I would recommend using both methods. Use the metallic in the blue, then put a hint of pearl in the clearcoat.

A painter recommended that mix to me years ago when he repainted a car of mine, and it came out incredible. Couldn't see the pearl so much at night, but in the sun WOW. The metallic is a bit more subdued, the pearl makes it pop IMO.
I just read your response. Sound interesting. How much pearl is put in the clear? Is that clear topcoated then with plain clear? Most likely the clear will need wet sanded and polished. Im not sure if clear with pearl would be able to be sanded and polished.
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Old Jul 13th, 10, 10:24 AM
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I just read your response. Sound interesting. How much pearl is put in the clear? Is that clear topcoated then with plain clear? Most likely the clear will need wet sanded and polished. Im not sure if clear with pearl would be able to be sanded and polished.
I do it when painting bikes. Amount of pearl concentration depends on intensity desired. You have to shoot test panels to verify because there are so many combinations and possibilities. The pearl is so fine that it's appearance in not compromized and shooting straight clear over it is not always necessary. Or just use it in the first two coats. Clearing mainly but not always, applies to heavier flakes, depending on the size, of which many are available. You can also add pearls and flakes to a carrier and clear over that, like a tri-stage. Go to HOK for more info. Their entire product lineup and TDS can be downloaded. You can buy pearls from others as well. Sanding pearls in clear is not like sanding a basecoat where distruption is obvious and slaps you in the face. There are many different colors of pearls available. Forget about getting an accurate view on-line, they need to be viewed in person.
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I do it when painting bikes. Amount of pearl concentration depends on intensity desired. You have to shoot test panels to verify because there are so many combinations and possibilities. The pearl is so fine that it's appearance in not compromized and shooting straight clear over it is not always necessary. Or just use it in the first two coats. Clearing mainly but not always, applies to heavier flakes, depending on the size, of which many are available. You can also add pearls and flakes to a carrier and clear over that, like a tri-stage. Go to HOK for more info. Their entire product lineup and TDS can be downloaded. You can buy pearls from others as well. Sanding pearls in clear is not like sanding a basecoat where distruption is obvious and slaps you in the face. There are many different colors of pearls available. Forget about getting an accurate view on-line, they need to be viewed in person.

I have used DBC500 (unpigmented basecoat) as a "carrier" for pearls and heavy metallics.
Heavier concentrations of the pearls will tend to move less around body lines than they would in a clear. I can get a bit of a puddling effect of the pearl if I used it in a clear unless I was really light on the pearl amount.
I have seen it to be much easier for a beginner to use the DBC500 method.
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I have used DBC500 (unpigmented basecoat) as a "carrier" for pearls and heavy metallics.
Heavier concentrations of the pearls will tend to move less around body lines than they would in a clear. I can get a bit of a puddling effect of the pearl if I used it in a clear unless I was really light on the pearl amount.
I have seen it to be much easier for a beginner to use the DBC500 method.
DBC 500 is the same as HOK SG100 but not the same as HOK SG150 pearl and flake carrier, which suspends and locks the particles better, especially heavier ones. HOK does not have a hardener for the SG100 whereas DBC 500 does. Yes, it would be easier for a novice just to shoot the tri-stage, and less room for financial despair. That is why I mentioned it. Knowledge comes with experience and errors, and I've made plenty.
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Old Jul 13th, 10, 11:28 AM
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I really wasnt thinking when I asked how much pearl. I know it all depends on how much. Just like candies change with each coat. I was more less questioning the clear with pearl being cut and buffed.
I have all the HOK color chips and tech sheets. And you are right about the part where you have to see the actual painted panel ,if you want to get a true picture of the color.
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I just read your response. Sound interesting. How much pearl is put in the clear? Is that clear topcoated then with plain clear? Most likely the clear will need wet sanded and polished. Im not sure if clear with pearl would be able to be sanded and polished.
I'm really not sure of the answers - I knew the guy that did it (an artist), and I trusted his judgement. I know when he told me what he wanted to do, he said he didn't want that much pearl, just enough to make it pop. I'm sure he either knew how much from experience or ran a test panel.
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