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Old May 24th, 10, 7:28 PM
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Question How much do coil springs "settle"

I have had new coils in the front of my 67 for the last year but never drove it...never really cared for how the front end sat so i pulled it a part yesterday and cut off 1/2 a coil and it lowerd it 3/4 inch. I was going to keep taking more off but a coulple friends told me the new coils will "settle" after a couple weeks driving on them.
Just wondering if this is true and how much they will drop if so???
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Old May 24th, 10, 7:58 PM
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When I had my car's front end aligned last summer, the guy said my new springs would settle 1/2"-1" in about 500 miles....faster if I drove it more frequently over railroad tracks. So far they only have about 225 miles on them, and last I measured in the fall they settled about 1/4".
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Old May 24th, 10, 8:08 PM
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I had a set of Moog 5244s in the front of my 67 for 18 years. First I had a small block in there. 5244s at the time were the correct listing for a SB w/AC. My car was not an A/C car, but the stance I was looking for was a touch higher than stock. These sat way too high up front, but I was hoping they would "settle". After 6 years, they never did. Actually they didn't drop at all.

I kept the same 5244s when I swapped in a 396. I was expecting they wouldn't be strong enough for the BB, but I was mistaken. They sat a few inches lower than they did with the small block, but still sat a touch high, IMO. Even after a few years with the 396 while the car driven approx 750 miles, they never settled, nor did the ride height change at all. Hope this helps.
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Old May 24th, 10, 8:16 PM
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Hmm...so it's looking like little or no drop at all...

These are Moog BB springs and my fernder wheel well sits just about 2 inches above the tire. The stance of the car is alright...I just dont care for all that room between the fender and tire.
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Old May 24th, 10, 8:56 PM
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Hmm...so it's looking like little or no drop at all...

These are Moog BB springs and my fernder wheel well sits just about 2 inches above the tire. The stance of the car is alright...I just dont care for all that room between the fender and tire.
I had the same problem, but I learned a valuable lesson...don't buy tires until the suspension is completed. Had I kept my car, I probably would have bought taller front tires.

Another option is cutting the springs. I bet one coil would probably do the trick.
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mine settled maybe 1/2 inch
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Old May 25th, 10, 1:28 AM
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If the control arm bolts are tightened while the car is off the ground, this can load the bushings. They will settle over time. I wonder how often this happens and is attributed to springs.
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Old May 25th, 10, 5:35 AM
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When ever you want them to settle the won't - If you think it's perfect they will drop 1 1/2" overnight. (in my experience)

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As Zeke said, don't tighten the A arm bolts while the wheels are hanging in the air. Question; how much height differance is there between tightening them in the air as compared to whilr the wieghts on them? 1".....1/2"? I guess it would be an easy experiment.
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Well that's exactly what I did...I had the lower ball joints off and tightend them while it was on jack stands. Should I take it appart again and leave them loose tilll its on it's own weight???
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Old May 25th, 10, 12:19 PM
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Well that's exactly what I did...I had the lower ball joints off and tightend them while it was on jack stands. Should I take it appart again and leave them loose tilll its on it's own weight???

Yes. Don't need to take it apart but loosen the bolts.

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Same problem, had new springs put on last year and it raised the front too much, never came down. Looks like I also will be cutting a coil off.
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Rule of thumb is springs will settle but nowhere near 1/2 to 1", more like 1/4" at the most unless they are crap material springs. Alignment will effect ride height slightly too, if the suspension has lots of postitive camber it will hold the front end up and lots of negative the car will drop. Always roll the car back and forth after a spring change because a load on the tires coming off the jack can change the ride height. Cut small amounts off the spring, NEVER large amounts like a full coil, it is better to sneek up on it rather than buy a second set of springs. Leave all the bushing point bolts loose until ride height is set so not to load the suspension and send the bushing to an early grave.
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Default Re: How much do coil springs "settle"

The biggest mistake most people do is tighten up the lower control arm bolts while the front end is hanging. This put a preload on the bushings,and keeps the front end up in the air.

Then everyone get excited and starts cutting coils before really finding out that didn't solve the problem.

You should loosen the control arm bushing bolts and let the car sit on the ground with all the weight on the suspension, and vigorously bounce the front end, and see if that isn't more to your liking. If so, tighten up front suspension with car on ground.


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Old May 25th, 10, 11:25 PM
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Thanks Guys!!!!!!!

So tonight I went back and lossend off the lower balljoint nuts to get rid of any pre-load and bounced the front end up and down for a while and ended getting a little over another half inch drop.
If it settles for another 1/4 inch thats right about where i wanted it...if it doesnt move im fine with where it is.

I dont do anything on my car anymore without asking questions to the team first...

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