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Old Dec 31st, 06, 11:22 PM
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Has any one installed a set of edelbrock no hop bars in their chevelle. If so what problems did you have if any. I had a set of lake wood no hop bars on a 10 bolt before and besides taking out the housing bushings they went in without any problems. After breaking my 10 bolt with my 496 BB I put in a 12 bolt and have now decided to put in the new edelbrock no hop bars. The no hop bars looked very nice I liked the poly bushing in the no hop bar instead of the lake wood solid sleeve where the upper control arm bolts to the no hop bar. The problem I have run into is the little bolt that you have to drill into the webbing of the rear end housing. The no hop bars would not fit up tight to the rear end housing without alot of grinding. Grinding the rear end with it still in the car was not so easy and did not come out as nicely as I would of liked it to. The little bolts are not into the webbing as far as I would like them to be, but now the holes are already drilled so I guess it is what it is and Im not happy with my craftsmanship. I guess what I would like to say is to any one installing these no hop bars I wish I had taken out the axle and done a cleaner / better job than I did. I think on a hard launch those bars are driven into the hosing and not being pulled away from it so those little bolt holes will be good enough.


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Old Jan 1st, 07, 12:03 AM
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those bolts mostly are stressed in reverse, so don't be nailing it hard in reverse.
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Old Jan 1st, 07, 10:38 AM
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Pete...I went through everything you going through...its all normal. I can't believe that this much grinding has to be done. Surely these rear end housing can't be that different from each other - I dont know why they can't get them to fit good. I really had to grind one more than the other. Also, the little bolt that is used to pin the no-hop bar to the housing was a littel too short.

But, when it is all said and done, they work awesome! I can do long "glassy" burnouts now. You can actually feel the rear end lift when taking off, even and a stop light and just letting the clutch out I can feel the rear lift slightly. What is happening is the car now "stands" on the rear, pushing the tires into the ground.

PS - be sure to check your pinion angle, as mine got thrown out of whack after installing the no-hops...then I had to buy adjustable uppers.





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Old Jan 1st, 07, 12:25 PM
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Pete...I went through everything you going through...its all normal. I can't believe that this much grinding has to be done. Surely these rear end housing can't be that different from each other - I dont know why they can't get them to fit good. I really had to grind one more than the other. Also, the little bolt that is used to pin the no-hop bar to the housing was a littel too short.

But, when it is all said and done, they work awesome! I can do long "glassy" burnouts now. You can actually feel the rear end lift when taking off, even and a stop light and just letting the clutch out I can feel the rear lift slightly. What is happening is the car now "stands" on the rear, pushing the tires into the ground.

PS - be sure to check your pinion angle, as mine got thrown out of whack after installing the no-hops...then I had to buy adjustable uppers.








Vince how far into the webbing of the rear end were you able to drill that little bolt hole? Your right that bolt was to small also.

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Old Jan 1st, 07, 12:44 PM
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How close to the rear trunk pan do those no hop bars get at a static position? Does your car sit higher than normal(spring height)?

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Pete...I was able to get them in pretty darn far. The directions call for at least 1/4 of webbing material has to be left outside of the bolt. I had to widen the bottom "fingers" so they would push farther into the housing. Out of the box they wouldn't go far enough into the housing.

I do think though that despite the grinding that is needed, these are the best no-hop bars b/c the have the bushing up top like you mentioned. The other don't. Not a big deal till (or if) you get adjustable uppers, as some elimiate the other bushing then you would have no bushings at all, which IMO would lead to undo stress on everything and add to the harhness.
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Old Jan 1st, 07, 12:50 PM
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How close to the rear trunk pan do those no hop bars get at a static position? Does your car sit higher than normal(spring height)?

Jim


Jim it wasnt close enough for me to notice, I had a friend (350 lbs) push up and down on the car with me under it and I saw no clearance issues. The car is at stock ride height with no gas tank,I use a cell.


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Jim, I think they get close to the pan, but dont hit AFAIK. The back does sit slightly higher now. Another nice side benfit you get is that there is now more exhaust pipe clearance since the control arms moved higher.

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Pete...I was able to get them in pretty darn far. The directions call for at least 1/4 of webbing material has to be left outside of the bolt. I had to widen the bottom "fingers" so they would push farther into the housing. Out of the box they wouldn't go far enough into the housing.

I do think though that despite the grinding that is needed, these are the best no-hop bars b/c the have the bushing up top like you mentioned. The other don't. Not a big deal till (or if) you get adjustable uppers, as some elimiate the other bushing then you would have no bushings at all, which IMO would lead to undo stress on everything and add to the harhness.

Vince I only got my little bolts in 1/4 if that ( its very close), and thats what bothers me. I dont want to swiss cheese the rear end. If I can later I will post pics.

Thanks Pete
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Old Jan 1st, 07, 5:36 PM
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The No Hop bars have helped the 4 speed guys with the limited tires. Mashing the tires in ground while forcing the back half of the car up has allowed guys to slip the clutch at higher RPM. Just much better improvements on the ET's with the more consistant 60 foot times. I need to get myself a pair before the season starts. The clearance on the trunk pan is a concern since it sits a little low.

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Old Jan 1st, 07, 8:46 PM
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Here is a screw up. I went half way with the first hole before I noticed it was so close to the edge. The older I get the less I fit under that car.


What do you think?

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