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Old Sep 4th, 05, 1:26 AM
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Last week I finally purchased a front disc conversion kit after much research. This kit was COMPLETE! I mean everything, never had to leave the house. $649.95 It even came with ALL the hard lines pre-bent and marked, Master to prop valve and lines to front hoses, I didn't even know it was comming with them. Proportioning valve mounts in same spot and REPLACES old junction block, no mounting to side of master cylinder. This kit even had everything already assembled! Not the lines obviously. I was truely amazed and impressed, 4 hour removal and installation for a novice, front clip and motor removed so it made it easier. I would recommend this kit to anyone! Found it on ebay at Matts Classic Bowties item#6872cbk-s-11-2. Their # is 1-866-628-8746. Want to say thanks to Olle for all his help with the research and pics. Hope this helps someone. As always thanks to all,
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Old Sep 4th, 05, 1:41 AM
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Old Sep 4th, 05, 9:32 AM
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Wow... that's cheap, considering that everything is included, and that it even fits. Glad it worked out for you!

Matt's classic bowties is one of the places I looked at before buying my kit, but they were more expensive back then. I just checked their web site and a complete kit is $729. Was this some kind of special?

Would be interesting if you posted a review, I would really like to know more details.
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Old Sep 4th, 05, 10:30 PM
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Not sure if it was on special or not. I ordered the kit over the phone on 8/29 and recieved it 7 working days later just like thy said. I paid $649.95+$89.00s/h=$738.95 total. If the kit is now $729.00 I'd say it is well worth it, I still highly recomend it! Thanks for your help always guys!
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Old Sep 5th, 05, 5:44 PM
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That's very cheap for a "kit" but you can piece together your own kit using junkyard spindles for a few hundred less... but it may be worth the ~$300 to not have to search for parts, or drive around to every parts-store in town looking for the right parts.
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Old Sep 6th, 05, 1:42 PM
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That's very cheap for a "kit" but you can piece together your own kit using junkyard spindles for a few hundred less... but it may be worth the ~$300 to not have to search for parts, or drive around to every parts-store in town looking for the right parts.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but would like to ask if you have done the math on that. I assume that you're not talking about just slapping the junk yard parts on there, right? If you want to be sure that everything is ok, you will either have to rebuild or buy rebuilt master cylinder, calipers, prop valve, booster etc, and you'll have to buy new bearings, hoses, brake pads and maybe rotors. A complete but used and unchecked set usually runs about $200, maybe $150 if you're lucky. You're saying that you can do it for $300 less than that kit, and that only leaves $150-200 for the rest. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't see that you can really do it right for that kind of money. IMO, that will just barely cover the gas for running to the junk yards.

I might add that I have done several conversions using junk yard parts. My experience is that you won't save much money, unless you already have a parts car or a good source for very cheap parts. And I don't know how many times I have bought used parts out of a bargain bin at a swap meet, just to find out later that they won't fit. Maybe I'm just getting old and lazy, but I think kits are the way to go.
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Old Sep 7th, 05, 7:10 PM
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I'm not disagreeing with you, but would like to ask if you have done the math on that.
It's been about 5 years, and I don't have my reciepts handy, but I'm pretty sure I was in the $375 range with new rotors, new bearings, rebuilt calipers, new hoses, rebuilt master cyl, self-bent new lines, and used power booster and proportioning valve. I bought the complete used setup for $150 and turned the master cyl and calipers in for cores.

Gas was $1.05/gallon then, so the 15 miles each way to the junk yard and parts stores didn't really add much

You'd be amazed at the ammount of work I'll do to save a hundred bucks... much more work than you could actually pay me a hundred bucks to do
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Old Sep 8th, 05, 11:38 AM
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You'd be amazed at the ammount of work I'll do to save a hundred bucks... much more work than you could actually pay me a hundred bucks to do
I probably wouldn't be amazed at all, I used to do the same thing and sometimes I still do. I was one of the local junk yard rats for a long time and they even gave me parts for free sometimes just to get rid of me. But again, I'm getting old and I don't have as much time for this kind of projects as I used to have. Even if it can be fun to spend a day cleaning and inspecting grungy parts, and then decide what to reuse, it's not something I can do anymore When I started working on my latest project, I checked the prices with different parts stores, and I could probably have saved maybe $150 by doing what you did. However, I really wanted a new booster and prop valve, and the nice Delco-Moraine replica booster I got with my kit was what made the decide to go that route. Having all new parts, and knowing that I don't have to pull something off right after installing and trying it is worth a lot to me.

But yes, you can save money, if you invest your own time instead. Might also add that you also need more experience to do it this way, especially if you can't find a complete kit. Puzzling parts together can be... well, puzzling
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Old Sep 8th, 05, 11:30 PM
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Thanks. You Helped Me Decide On What Kit To Buy. I Was Looking At This Kit On E-bay. I Was Trying To Find Someone That Had Used This Kit To See If It Was A Good One.was The Power Booster Just Like The Original One? Thanks Again For Posting This Kit. I Will Buy One Real So And Install It.thanks Again John
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Old Sep 12th, 05, 5:02 AM
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Are the calipers single pistons? I'd love to save money to, but, when it comes to the calipers, I can't help but think of forking out the extra cash for some dual piston calipers I'm assuming the rotors are "normal," meaning, they're not slotted, etc. Just curious Thanks!
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Old Sep 21st, 05, 9:34 PM
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Yes, single piston and standard rotors. By the way, if you have 14in wheels you'll need to buy15's, I found out the hard way. I'm SLOW! But the good news is that I called the dealer and they are refunding half of my shipping because they felt sorry for me because I didn't know. Bad news is I need new wheels and don't have very much money left for my project!
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Old Sep 24th, 05, 2:30 PM
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Yea i bought front dics brakes too from Matts Classic Bowties. Really cheap and they work really good. I they work 10 times better then the factory disc brakes there putting on cars now
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Old Sep 26th, 05, 9:55 AM
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Yes, single piston and standard rotors. By the way, if you have 14in wheels you'll need to buy15's, I found out the hard way. I'm SLOW! But the good news is that I called the dealer and they are refunding half of my shipping because they felt sorry for me because I didn't know. Bad news is I need new wheels and don't have very much money left for my project!
I am considering on buying a kit for my son's Nova. It currently has these 14" wheels, and I am asking if the disk brakes will work with these wheels. My Chevelle has disk brakes, so I could see if those wheels would fit on my Chevelle, and if they would work on the Chevelle, I would assume they would work on the Nova with a conversion kit.

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Where on eBay?????
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Old Oct 14th, 05, 12:02 PM
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Freddy, got to the e-Bay Auto parts section, do a search on "67 Chevelle".


If you sort on expensive to cheapest, you'll see "Whitemanfords" kits at the top of the list. I've talked with him and Olle actually used his kit. Best price around and everything was included.

Look under the product evaluation section of this site to see Olle's report on the kit.
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