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Old Nov 7th, 09, 8:30 PM
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Default 1969 Z/28 Daytona Yellow???

I came across a 1969 Z28 with the X77 code on the trim tag. This is a paint code 76 Daytona Yellow car. The car could be restored with a pile of work or could be easily pro streeted or drag raced. The car has a narrowed 9 inch ford with just the axles. It is a ladder bar set-up with a 3 link. Nice doors, upper and lower valances, nice grille, nice bumpers, and decent roof. Anyone know how rare the Daytona Yellow is on a Z/28? I've seen a few on the net but I don't know if they were original or not. The paint scheme is really cool with the yellow and black hounds tooth interior. Any ROUGH ideas on restored value? Just ballpark I have no pics yet.
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Old Nov 7th, 09, 8:52 PM
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Default Re: 1969 Z/28 Daytona Yellow???

Is there any paperwork to prove it is a Z-28. A real nice restored Z-28 is around $60-75,000. That is a born with drivetrain car with paperwork.
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Old Nov 7th, 09, 9:49 PM
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Here is the one I had and sold in 96. X77/D80/Every 44000 of the miles documented/ Complete owner history/ Every piece it was built with still intact.

X77 designates a Norwood built Z.
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Old Nov 7th, 09, 9:59 PM
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7 % of 69 Z28 were painted Daytona Yellow, this is from the CRG web site I also am a proud owner of a 69 Z, mine is Butternut Yellow, which 1 % were painted this color Chuck
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Old Nov 7th, 09, 10:03 PM
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Is there any paperwork to prove it is a Z-28. A real nice restored Z-28 is around $60-75,000. That is a born with drivetrain car with paperwork.
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Most Z28 do not have there buildsheets as they were commonly thrown away at the Norwood plant, if you have a buildsheet you are one of the lucky ones, if you have a POP that would be good, also any Z built after Dec 69 had a X33 or X77 code which was a trim code and only used with the Z28 option, so if your trim tag has X33 or X77 this is a real Z Chuck
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Old Nov 7th, 09, 10:10 PM
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Chuck What true documentation supports the % of painted cars. I would like to see it in print as I do not think this info was ever released. It would have to show something like 1421 to validate 7 % Daytona Yellow cars.
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Old Nov 7th, 09, 10:23 PM
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Camaro Research Group, CRG as it is know, has this data available, although not official it is the best available estimate of paint usage, compiled by a lot of knowledgable and in the know researchers
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Old Nov 7th, 09, 10:34 PM
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Here's some pics. I think at this point it would be hard to justify restoring it. All the sheet metal is available to do it, but thats a lot of work for a car with no original drive train. Although, it allows you to build a very cool pro street/street machine from a very rare car and color combo. Like I said the yellow with the black/yellow hounds tooth interior looks killer! The guy wants $5500.
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Old Nov 7th, 09, 10:36 PM
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I am going to disagree with that. Len Williamson was the first person that Chevrolet actually let see and publish production figures. He published these in a book titled Tailfins and bowties. There is no reference to any actual interior /exterior colors within the 69 Camaro model line. My feeling is these figures people use are only random guesses based on cars they have seen not what actually left the factories. At best it is a number pulled out of a hat and really has no true basis of fact.
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Old Nov 7th, 09, 11:36 PM
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It is not a true figure, that is correct, it is the only figure I have ever seen posted anywhere so it is what it is, it is on the site and a explanation of how it was derived is also there, it is not my figure, but it is the ONLY THING WE HAVE, would you agree with that
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Old Nov 8th, 09, 6:45 AM
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The only problem I have with figures compiled in this manner is more times than not they are used to create an illusion of rarity by people selling cars to inflate the price of a car. Enthusiast groups that compile these figures do so only to give people an idea of production figures and offer it as such. I have no problem with that but it creates a tool for less than honest sellers to mislead buyers.

Below is the forward from Len's book I thought you might like to read. If you ever run upon a copy you will find it amazing. The first edition starts in 53 and goes to 78 with everything Chevrolet gave him on every model. In it you find that in about 76 Chevrolet started breaking out figures on paint and interior colors but only as it was used within a model line.
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Old Nov 8th, 09, 9:04 AM
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Steve: I agree it would make a nice ride but may be too much to return to a street car. I am by no means an expert but I would think you would have $30-$40K in it before you would be driving it. You would definately need a donor car for all the missing parts. Easiest and probably cheapest would be to make it strictly a strip car.
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Old Nov 8th, 09, 2:33 PM
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X77 is a z28 car..definatly worth putting back to a street car..
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Old Nov 8th, 09, 3:05 PM
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Thats a pretty good deal at that price.
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Old Nov 8th, 09, 3:13 PM
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$5500 doesn't seem to out of line for what it is if you are going to build a hotrod. It will be a hard sell though for they type of work it needs though (IMO) BTW you do NOT need a donor car for the missing pieces. The 69 Camaro is what folks dream of for repro parts. That includes structural parts these days. Big tire Camaros are all over the market price wise. usually the real nicely built ones are above $30k. Rough around the edges or not quite perfect ones can be had for less. One near me with a 540 that allegedly just needs registered to drive on the street is $19500 or 13500 as a roller. Can't remember if it was a real Z though. I paid a lot more for my 69 X77 roller but I got a lot of parts and have sentimental attachment to my Z28.
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