[mochevy69]

I have a 69 SS with a vin # of 136379 A xxxxxx.
The trim tag has 13437 KAN xxxxxx.
Has any one else run into this???

BTW I,ve also got a 4 dr 300 Del parts car with the same problem.
vin # 133699 B xxxxxx.
trim tag # 13469 BAL xxxxxx.

On my 68 & 69 EL Cams., the #'s are correct.
I think I read somewhere that there was some confusion starting with the 69 model. Any one know for sure??

[RixLS6]

Originally Posted by mochevy69

I have a 69 SS with a vin # of 136379 A xxxxxx.
The trim tag has 13437 KAN xxxxxx.
Has any one else run into this???

I think I read somewhere that there was some confusion starting with the 69 model. Any one know for sure??

The only confusion I see is that your 69 SS VIN is for an Atlanta car, and the cowl tag is for a Kansas City car, so someone switched something.

[bcmiller]

Originally Posted by mochevy69

I have a 69 SS with a vin # of 136379 A xxxxxx.
The trim tag has 13437 KAN xxxxxx.
Has any one else run into this???

BTW I,ve also got a 4 dr 300 Del parts car with the same problem.
vin # 133699 B xxxxxx.
trim tag # 13469 BAL xxxxxx.

On my 68 & 69 EL Cams., the #'s are correct.
I think I read somewhere that there was some confusion starting with the 69 model. Any one know for sure??

On the first car, somebody switched tags. My guess would be the VIN tag was swapped. Not good. Car might be hot.

Second car seems OK. The B in your VIN is for Baltimore, and the BAL on the tag is also Baltimore.

[Shevelle]

Obviously one of the tags has been switched on the first car. Before assuming it is the vin tag I'd take a good look at the trim tag. While it's still not a good thing for the trim tag to be switched, it's not nearly as bad as the vin. Since the trim tag doesn't say anything to indicate your car as a true SS it's more likely it may have been changed at some point by someone trying to justify something like a color change. If you will post photos here of both tags, the members can tell you which one looks to have been changed.

[DaleM]

Originally Posted by mochevy69

I have a 69 SS with a vin # of 136379 A xxxxxx.
The trim tag has 13437 KAN xxxxxx.
Has any one else run into this???

As noted above, could be a big problem; an Atlanta Malibu VIN and a Kansas City 300 Deluxe trim tag. There are places on the body and on the frame that will have a partial VIN stamped but are generally hard to get to unless the car is apart. Since it's a sport coupe (body style 37) it may be difficult to tell if it was originally a 300 Deluxe or Malibu but maybe some 69 experts will chime in and point you to some places where someone might not have correctly put something from a Malibu onto a 300 Deluxe body. Interiors (seats, door panels, carpeting) were different but fairly easy to change over to a Malibu if it was originally a 300 Deluxe as the trim tag notes.

BTW I,ve also got a 4 dr 300 Del parts car with the same problem.
vin # 133699 B xxxxxx.
trim tag # 13469 BAL xxxxxx.

Not the same problem at all. Both are Batimore 300 Deluxe IDs. What may be confusing you is the 13369 on the VIN and 13469 on the trim tag. The Fisher Body Style number on the trim tag does not mean the same thing as the Division/Series/Model in the VIN. The Fisher Body Style number has nothing to do with whether the car was born with an L6 or V8, only the VIN establishes that. It's not uncommon to have a 132xx, 134xx, or 136xx Fisher Body Style number and a GM 131xx, 133xx, or 135xx VIN - I have quite a few examples from as early as 1964.

On my 68 & 69 EL Cams., the #'s are correct.
I think I read somewhere that there was some confusion starting with the 69 model. Any one know for sure??

No confusion with 1969 and later (or 1968 and earlier) trim tag Style numbers versus VIN plate numbers, except maybe for 1972. GM went to a different format for VINs when the specific engine was included via a letter in the VIN and the GM series went from a 2-digit number to a 1-letter character but Fisher Body tags remained the same. For example, a 2-dr Malibu sport coupe would have a Fisher Body trim tag style of 13637 where the VIN would read 1D37. The trim tag still didn't indicate an L6 or V8 (it never did) but the VIN now would have a letter designating the specific engine size...
D - 250cid L-6 1-bbl (L22)
F - 307cid V8 2-bbl (L14)
H - 350cid V8 2-bbl (L65)
J - 350cid V8 4-bbl (L48)
U - 402cid V8 4-bbl (LS3)
W - 454cid V8 4-bbl (LS5)
...so 1D37D would be a Maliub sport coupe with the 6-cyl, 1D37F would be the same coupe with the 307, etc.

Or you may be referring to how one could determine if a Chevelle was a factory SS or not. From 66 through 68 the SS was a separate series from the Malibu. In 1969 the SS package(s) were OPTIONAL on the Malibu coupe, convertible and pickup and the 300 Deluxe coupe and 2-dr sedan in 1969. Being an option (just like power steering, a radio, air conditioning, etc.) there's nothing in the VIN (or on the trim tag) that indicates an SS option was ordered. The exception is, again, 1972. If the VIN indicated the 454 engine (engine code "W") the car had to be ordered with the SS option to get that engine.

Originally Posted by Shevelle

While it's still not a good thing for the trim tag to be switched, it's not nearly as bad as the vin.

Swapping the VIN is a federal infraction while swapping the trim tag is only a legal infraction in the state of Oklahoma - so far anyway. Can't change, alter, swap, remove, or even have a reproduction tag made (unless it's stamped as a reproduction) in (1953 through 1977) cars sold or brought into Oklahoma as of November, 2007.

http://www.chevellestuff.com/misc/ok...im_tag_law.htm

[mochevy69]

On the SS, the vin # matches the firewall # stamped in under the heater box. The frame # behind the left rear wheel also matches. So I'm sure it's a good # and title.
The 4 dr parts car I was just curious about. Don't plan to restore.

[BrentsChevelle]

Larry,
Do you mind me asking what your VIN is? Take a look at my signature. To be honest with you, I don't understand why someone would change the trim tag, especially since the tag is from a 300 Deluxe.

[Don_Lightfoot]

I'm wondering if the Kansas trim tag has the "L" in it which has been debated to indicate an SS, although not 100% confirmed. If so, then somebody could have taken the trim tag form a 300 Deluxe SS and put it on the Malibu body. Just thinking out loud

[bcmiller]

Originally Posted by mochevy69

On the SS, the vin # matches the firewall # stamped in under the heater box. The frame # behind the left rear wheel also matches. So I'm sure it's a good # and title.
The 4 dr parts car I was just curious about. Don't plan to restore.

Well that is good and its a relief that it all matches up. But doesn't explain why the trim tag would have been switched. Can you post all of the information from the trim tag?

[mochevy69]

Originally Posted by bcmiller

Well that is good and its a relief that it all matches up. But doesn't explain why the trim tag would have been switched. Can you post all of the information from the trim tag?

I will as soon as I get the chance to look for it.