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67 el camino BBC w/long water pump?

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#1 ·
I did a search and it looks like its doable. Is there any thing I should be aware of?
Ive got a 454, hedman headers for a bbc A body, and the accy brackets I have are the long waterpump variety. Only thing Im missing is the lower alternator bracket, Other than that I have the upper bracket, waterpump pulley, crank pulley, PS brackets for the later style pump, (not the banjo style).
I know about the oil pan for a A body, but it looks like thats it for having to buy stuff. For the radiator, im going with a ebay aluminum radiator.
Any input is greatly appreciated.
The car is a 67 el camino that had a big block that was removed before being sold. thanks. im
 
#2 ·
my cousin had a 66 Chevelle with a 402 that had the long water pump.. he had just enough room to squeeze a factory 4 blade solid fan in there... it was tight, but he drove that thing everywhere and beat the hell out of it without any cooling problems..
 
#6 ·
Im hoping to get away with a fixed fan or a flex fan, I am going with a aluminum radiator. The motor I have is a stock truck type 454 so its not a high horse motor, hopefully just torquey. The tranny is a TH350 with a shift kit and a 2500 stall and the rear gears are 3.08. My buddy did offer me a deal on a 454 last night. I think its about 9.5 to 1 peanut ports, performer cam and intake. Fresh riings bearings oil pump and gaskets. The motor came out of another friends truck that he sold. It was a great running motor, but since it was out my friend decided to freshen it up. Comes with the swp brackets and pulleys, bb fan shroud, motor mounts. Only issue I have is convincing my wife to pitch some cash in on the project. jim
 
#7 ·
I run a new, stock replacement, BBC 66 radiator in the 65. I use a full 66 shroud and fixed blade fan setting 1/2 in and 1/2 out of the shroud - along with a long water pump. The fan sets about 3/4" from the radiator. The 66/67 radiators are a true full crossflow and are pretty efficient if in good condition.The iron head 496 never gets over 190 in heavy traffic, but typically runs at 170 - 180 regardless of the outside temp when moving down the road. It has a 180 stat in it. Did the same set up to a friends 66 with a ZZ502 and it runs about the same, maybe 5 degrees higher. Ignition timing is crucial to running cool too, I find that I need at least 16 degrees base to let it run cool. FWIW. Ed
 
#8 ·
My 67 Malibu has a Edlebrock long Aluminum Water Pump. I had a custom 4 row copper radiator built. I use a high performance flex fan with a shroud. No cooling problems for my 540 inch Rat at all.

The flex fan clears the radiator by about an inch.
 
#9 ·
My 67 chevelle is a 427 long water pump, oem standard radiator with a 15in fan, big block fan shroud with a 1in fan spacer I think, to clear the alternator. ALL I did was reroute the harness over to the pass side, purchased 70 BB brackets bolted everything up and never looked back.

I have a 427 bored .030 over, approx 420-430 hp and have absolutely no run hot conditions in heavy stop and go traffic, at freeway speeds, or when I make a frequent run of 10mi at 100mph in the dead of summer 80-90 degrees to see a friend.
 
#12 ·
Thanks! the only thing it looks like im going to be ordering is a oil pan, PST motor mounts and a lower alterantor bracket (which im sure I have, just have to find it). jim
 
#14 ·
i had a 65 with a Procharged 496-i used a long WP, 67 BB fan shroud, and a 7 bladed aftermarket fan-Flexlite or something, Procharger PS kit
i used a cheap Ebay rad for a 65, never ran hot at all, did a short spacer on the fan
 
#15 ·
Fixed flex fan W/power steering and a/c. I had problems until i goy à shroud. 3 row radiator as well, 180 in heavy traffic, 190 with air on in heavy traffic.

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#16 ·
When i installed an '89 454... i had 2.5 inches between water LWP and shroud. I tried to go electric fans... but i would slowly creep up to 210. I'm not blaming the fans... it could of been the way i wried them.. but i moved to a 6 blade fan (60 bucks), '66 BB repro shroud (65 bucks), 1" fan spacer (20 bucks) and some high temp foam to fill out some gaps. It was a pain in the @ss to put in the fan/shroud/spacer all at the same time while trying to line them all up... there isnt enough space to install them one at a time. I also bought a 3 core radiator from ebay... i dont go past 185 now, in vegas weather. I went about 30/70 mix and a bottle of what i think was called "water wetter". Oh, i went to 185 thermostat. i had been trying 160 with drilled holes when i attempting the electric fans... Oh, i will say i dont have ps/ac/heat..

I made a thread about it...

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=397347&highlight=
 
#17 ·
I run power steering and air. My set up is the same as what comes on a 80's vintage 454 3/4 truck motor with the remote power steering reservoir.
 
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