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: Look at this 9'????


blaauboer
Jun 29th, 05, 9:38 PM
WHAT A JOKE......



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6164&item=4558811713&rd=1

Johnny O
Jun 29th, 05, 10:04 PM
Looks like time to trade up, Scott!!! :p

Dean
Jun 29th, 05, 10:09 PM
WHAT A JOKE......



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6164&item=4558811713&rd=1

What's the joke?

:confused:

LXS
Jun 29th, 05, 10:20 PM
Well, the car sure looks pretty sweet to me :)

Hi-po SS 454
Jun 29th, 05, 10:30 PM
looks pretty clean !!! 9 sec et ????

Derek69SS
Jun 29th, 05, 11:13 PM
My guess is he put his horsepower #s and weight into a ET calculator, and it came up with 9.xxx

Anyone who would make a 9 second run with no cage, and lap-belts only would have to be a total nut-job with no regard for the safety of himself or the guy in the other lane. :sad:

Sweet car though :)

blaauboer
Jun 29th, 05, 11:14 PM
Thank You ....Those where just my thoughts........To many things just don't add up.....

Mr69
Jun 29th, 05, 11:57 PM
Car looks awesome to me and I believe every word in that ad.
Looks like a serious street racer to me. Albeit somewhat spartan, but I tend to think that's just what the builder had in mind.


Maybe roll bars in fast cars are part of the pussification process ! Ever think of that ?


Nate

daaujla
Jun 30th, 05, 12:14 AM
Maybe roll bars in fast cars are part of the pussification process ! Ever think of that ?




Or maybe it's part of the death wish process. No regards for anyones safety. Just asking to get killed. Oh well not my problem if he want to be a retard who wants to die.

Dean
Jun 30th, 05, 12:19 AM
Oh, OK I see, you are doubting the 9 sec in the 1/4 part.

Bomber '67
Jun 30th, 05, 2:01 AM
I go to a lot of car shows and constantly meet bragart car owners who have never made a single dragstrip pass - yet make wild eyed claims about what their car will do. Sometimes I lower the boom and tell them that at least they could tell more believable stories - otherwise put up or shut up. Then the real pussification begins: they say "oh I can't go because (insert more stories here)". Its especially fun when they name a local track and they are unaware that they would not be allowed to run without certain (missing) safety equipment. I actually had one guy who had claimed lots of dragstrip experience finally show up, only to stage with his rear wheels, then he mercilessly melted the tires off the line without letting up and ran a 16.xx pass!

A lot of guys get caught up in the legend of their muscle cars and feel a need for embellishment to satisfy the passing parade of spectators.

Thomas

Mr69
Jun 30th, 05, 2:10 AM
death wish ???? I don't understand.

I think death is only a possibilty if you get out of control and crash.

I don't see any damage on this car.

If driving your car without a roll bar means you're on a death wish, then I guess everyone who drives has a death wish. ???

Hmmmmmm ...........doesn't make sense to me.

Or are you trying to pussify me too ? hmmmmmmmm.
Ain't gonna happen, boy.

Drive like a real man and you don't need a roll bar.


Nate

Mr69
Jun 30th, 05, 3:26 AM
Hey daaujla,
here is what you said in the post, " SS clones, what's your opinion on them?", just 10 days ago.

"I had two chevelles at one time a 71 and the 72 i have now. Both project cars. Before i sold the 71 i took off the turn signals and switched them with my 72. I like the look of the 71 's better. What i am trying to say is a person should do to their cars what they want. If they want a 71-72 chevelle with 70 head light buckets then so be it. Customize your car how you want."


If you really mean what you said above, then why are you picking on this guy for not having a roll bar ???


Nate

novaderrik
Jun 30th, 05, 3:44 AM
back in 94, up at the Musclecar Shootout at BIR, there was a really nice looking black 69 Yenko Camaro with a big block- it didn't look like anything special- just a nicely restored Yenko. no cage, no monster slicks- nothing like that. and it had a stock cowl hood on it and a full 3" exhaust with a stock interior. no gauges or anything out of place like that, either, and no blue bottle as far as anyone could see..
he was running high 13 second 1/4 miles- and he was lifting just past the 1/8th mile marker. we all knew he had more...
he finally cut loose on his last pass, and ran a 9.7second run- everyone was speechless. and he was barred from making any more passes. i believe he drove it out the gate right after that pass..
that car was cool personified..

Cameano
Jun 30th, 05, 4:25 AM
I had a friend who built a '64 Nova up with a 406, 18* AFR's, PG trans, etc. No cage, no subframe connectors even, until he tweaked the car hard one day and the fan tore up the radiator. He would run 11.50's once a week, and they'd toss him out. Let him back in the next week. One day, he discovered that he was only getting 3/4 throttle. Fixed that, ran a 10.7x. They banned him for good after that pass. Never did cage the car, moved back to the mainland with it.

mr 4 speed
Jun 30th, 05, 10:11 AM
..what Thomas said.
I'm sure its at least a very low,low 10 sec. car....or maybe not

Georgia69
Jun 30th, 05, 10:20 AM
Appears to have basically stock suspension. You think a stock suspension will pull a 1.35 60' time and lift the front wheels three feet? It has a bone stock fuel tank, not sumped or anything, and has what appears to be an Autozone $14.95 fuel pump. You think that will supply enough fuel to run 9's at 135mph? BE SERIOUS. It might run 9's in the 1/8.

1BLACKHARLEY
Jun 30th, 05, 10:46 AM
Appears to have basically stock suspension. You think a stock suspension will pull a 1.35 60' time and lift the front wheels three feet? It has a bone stock fuel tank, not sumped or anything, and has what appears to be an Autozone $14.95 fuel pump. You think that will supply enough fuel to run 9's at 135mph? BE SERIOUS. It might run 9's in the 1/8.

you know, i'm getting a little confused. i just read an article last night about an elky. 454 worked a little. but nothing monster, stock shocks, stock springs, no cage, and didn't looked to be tubbed, but this guy was running 10's. man! my elky is a pig right now, i guess i need a serious tune.....i know our cars in stock form weren't as fast as everybody remembers, but it seems like it doesn't take much to turn them into screamers, at least if 50% of what we're hearing these days is true.

Derek69SS
Jun 30th, 05, 10:59 AM
Drive like a real man and you don't need a roll bar.

OK, you climb in a 9 second car and break an axle on the 1-2 shift and see if you're "man" enough to keep it shiny side up. :p

Wouldn't a cage would be necessary for the structural integrity a 9 sec. car? I don't think a stock chevelle chassis could take that abuse for very long without some added structure.

Bowtie-72
Jun 30th, 05, 12:29 PM
I don't beleive it is a 9 second car either (in 1/4 mile), but....

it looks like it has boxed lower control arms, a battery in the trunk, and looks like only business under the hood-no heater box, no washer bottle, I can't see wipers, but they may be hidden. It also has an external trunk battery switch.

it may not be as fast as claimed, but I bet it's still quick. If the motor is as claimed, and on slicks, he may have BS'd his way past the track techs and been kicked out.

1966_L78
Jun 30th, 05, 12:35 PM
OK, you climb in a 9 second car and break an axle on the 1-2 shift and see if you're "man" enough to keep it shiny side up. :p

Wouldn't a cage would be necessary for the structural integrity a 9 sec. car? I don't think a stock chevelle chassis could take that abuse for very long without some added structure.

A 9-second car is more LIKELY to break something, but it still can and does happen with 13, 14, 15-second+ cars... Just not as common...

Even happens on the street...

Yeah, I think its a fullish risk, but even with a cage, a 9-second car is still a risky thing... It just depends on how much risk the driver wants to take...

I think the stock chassis could take some abuse for some time... Is the car raced all the time, or just occasionally?

daaujla
Jun 30th, 05, 12:48 PM
Hey daaujla,
here is what you said in the post, " SS clones, what's your opinion on them?", just 10 days ago.

"I had two chevelles at one time a 71 and the 72 i have now. Both project cars. Before i sold the 71 i took off the turn signals and switched them with my 72. I like the look of the 71 's better. What i am trying to say is a person should do to their cars what they want. If they want a 71-72 chevelle with 70 head light buckets then so be it. Customize your car how you want."


If you really mean what you said above, then why are you picking on this guy for not having a roll bar ???


Nate

Never did i say in either on of those post that everyone should have a roll cage. If rules at the track require it, there probably is a good reason that it is required. Nor did i say that i drive with roll bars. If i had a 9 second car then i would have roll bars. Let say you have a 16 second car going down the 1/4 mile you break something and crash, you're probably going 90-95 tops (depends on where you break at) you could be going 40 mph. But in a 9 sec. car your going damn near 150 mph (also depends on where you break) Would you rather meet the wall at 90 mph or 150 mph? Another thing usually 9 second cars aren't really cars that you want as daily drivers, go out for a cruise yes.

daaujla
Jun 30th, 05, 1:00 PM
That car weighs 3500 lbs, and is running 9's. I am thinking probably more in the 11's. If he took out the seats and did a little weight reduction i'd say 10's.

BB_Mike
Jun 30th, 05, 1:32 PM
It just down't look like a 572cid motor. Shouldn't the deck be taller?!

Perhaps the owner is just reselling it, and never having raced it, does not know if the previous sellers figures where correct. Happens a lot.

Never Satisfied
Jun 30th, 05, 4:09 PM
I sent him an email asking about his combo, and here was his reply.....

Brent, tall block,4.500 bore,4.500 kryptonite lightweight steel billet crank, carillo offshore rods, wiseco forged pistons, crane F256 Cam, GM 990 heads, manley severe duty valves, crower enduro roller rockers, dart intake and a 1050 dominator carb. The exhaust is 3” made from U-bends with spin tech mufflers.


Some decent parts in there. Regardless of what times it runs, I wouldn't mind owning it. It looks pretty clean, and with different exhaust, it could be a sleeper.

67RAT
Jun 30th, 05, 4:39 PM
My guess is he put his horsepower #s and weight into a ET calculator, and it came up with 9.xxx

Anyone who would make a 9 second run with no cage, and lap-belts only would have to be a total nut-job with no regard for the safety of himself or the guy in the other lane. :sad:

Sweet car though :)

I dont see how having lap belts only and no cage puts the guy in the other lane at risk!!!!!! no ,it puts the driver of the car at risk,and them only!!!!

ON THE OTHER HAND,If your going nines with out a cage and race harness,the rest of the car may be just as unsafe,that may put everyone at risk-- AND THAT IS A NUT-JOB--

HE JUST CALCULATED IT-IT DONT GO NINES--but cool car IMO--67RAT

Georgia69
Jun 30th, 05, 4:51 PM
Next time you're at the races, check and see how many 9 second cars have a vacuum advance canister on the distributor, or a mechanical fuel pump. And roll cages do a lot more than add safety...they stiffen the chassis. You really think a stock, flexible-as-a-noodle frame with basicaly stock suspension components will pull a 1.35 60' and carry the front wheels three feet in the air for 50 feet? I'd guess it will run 11's.

ratuned
Jun 30th, 05, 4:52 PM
i believe that this car was for sale on ebay before. but i thought it was in california. it appears he cut and pasted the last add. i'd say its possible to run 9's. there are some serious street racers out there that run in the 9's that don't look too radical. that car could sit in my garage anytime. mike

1bad67
Jun 30th, 05, 5:16 PM
Maybe the removed nitrous plate put it in the nines, and yes I've seen 9sec wheel toting stock suspended chevelles no sway bar, no anti roll twisted all to hell carry the wheels past 60' on nitrous.

As mentioned it looks like a money maker, you guys are dupped, stock pump for the motor, electric pump for the NOS no cage, no sump, typical 9sec street racer.

If it was tubbed it would be believable?, also aren't the 300 delux cars about 300lbs lighter?

mc71454
Jul 2nd, 05, 3:12 PM
OK, you climb in a 9 second car and break an axle on the 1-2 shift and see if you're "man" enough to keep it shiny side up. :p

Wouldn't a cage would be necessary for the structural integrity a 9 sec. car? I don't think a stock chevelle chassis could take that abuse for very long without some added structure.


YES YES YES...

I E-mailed Him for a Time Slip :rolleyes: I am going to bid on it if he has one..

Redrum
Jul 3rd, 05, 1:01 AM
Nice car... I wonder what the reserve is. Not a lot of information on the car such as gear ratio, tranny and cam specs but with 572 CI, I beleive it could be in the 9's.

JWA
Jul 3rd, 05, 3:24 AM
Appears to have basically stock suspension. You think a stock suspension will pull a 1.35 60' time and lift the front wheels three feet? It has a bone stock fuel tank, not sumped or anything, and has what appears to be an Autozone $14.95 fuel pump. You think that will supply enough fuel to run 9's at 135mph? BE SERIOUS. It might run 9's in the 1/8.

Actually that pump looks like the carter 172 I have on my 68 and the fuel line is big. Don't let the look of the pump fool you. While I am a little skeptical of 9s too, if that is an 572 that is tweaked it could very well be a monster if he can get the slicks to hook up. From the pics it could be a tall deck block. .The 572 does come with the mech fuel provision and with his being a put together motor the power level could be ther for some quick times.

http://www.sallee-chevrolet.com/ChevyBigBlockV8s/572.html