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: painting metallics?


sportster
Sep 28th, 01, 10:24 AM
I was just talking to the guy at the paint store about painting my car back to the orignal color. The color is orange flame, #65 he said it was a metallic and that you need to fog the last coat to avoid strips in the paint. Im probably going to go with the single stage paint but need to know how difficult it is to paint (Metallics) and how should i prep the jams considering you should not do piece work with metallics.

normie
Sep 28th, 01, 10:37 AM
As far as I am aware.. You can cut in the jambs as you normally would with non-metallic paint.. and yes you would "Fog" or Blow the metallics on with the last coat too get uniform orientation over the entire job.. Your best bet is too get as much "Book Knowledge" as possible on the subject, and a video or two in.. Then practice on some other panels.. Good Luck

sevt_chevelle
Sep 28th, 01, 10:56 AM
Sportster, painting a metallic color in single stage paint is difficult if you are a first timer. With single stage you cant fog that last coat to get the metallics to lay right. If you do you will lose the gloss because you arent applying a full wet coat. Use a base clear system, that way you only worry about getting the metallics to lay right in the first step, then worry about the gloss with the next step been the clear coat. You can paint metallics with a single stage system but you must be carefull, cause if you dont get the spary pattern even you will get light and dark spots in the paint because in some areas the there is more metallic then in others. Go for the base clear system just a better system alround.

MalibuJerry350
Sep 28th, 01, 3:23 PM
I used single stage, PPG Acrylic enamel with a urethane hardener on my Chevelle...Forrest Green Metallic. What I found works is lay a couple of tack coats on, then a couple of fog coats. Let that set up for a few minutes, then lay a nice wet uniform coat with nice even overlaps. Just don't try painting some parts "off the car", even at the same time, and expect them to look the same! Tried that on the fender extensions and still wound up a "tad" lighter than the rest of the car. Also, while stirring the paint in the can, take the time to make sure it's mixed evenly. Other than that, a piece of cake! http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif

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drptop70ss
Sep 28th, 01, 5:02 PM
I would definately go with the two stage. I have a couple of friends who have used the PPG stuff while I watched and I am sold. Shooting the base is easy, it dries fast like laquer and they didnt fog the last coat. Also, one of em painted all the parts separate and then hung them, I thought it would never work, but the color match was perfect. I think it would be much easier to use the two stage. Also, if you screw up and get runs, you cant wetsand metallic single stage but you can wetsand and buff the clear coat.

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sportster
Sep 28th, 01, 5:26 PM
I thought that you had to wet sand any paint regardless of what type if you wanted to get out the runs and imperfections? I have not priced what it will cost me to do a BC/CC yet. If its close to the single stange i may go that route because i realy like this color and have not seen many around where i live. People were telling me to fog the last coat if i did the single stage do to the metallic but if you can't wet sand the final I'm not gona wast my money and time to have a crapy paint job. Thanks for the help, any other info would be great.

sevt_chevelle
Sep 28th, 01, 9:23 PM
Sportster go with the base clear system it is more forgiving then single stage. Like drptop said you cant sand and buff the single stage but you can with base clear. If you wet sand the runs or dirt out a single stage paint with metallics you will disurpt the metallics in the paint and get light and dark spots. Price wise base clear will always be higher then single stage but more then worth the added priced tag. If you are a first time painter go with the base clear system much much easier to use and get better end results. Painting single stage paint with metallics is a tough job to do make it easier on yourself and buy base clear.

normie
Sep 28th, 01, 10:01 PM
I just want to clarify something.. if you basecoat/clearcoat (2 stage) the car you CAN NOT wetsand the basecoat if it is a metallic without blowing paint on it again as you will scratch the surface of the metallics, and move them around in the paint causing light, dark, and different "Orientation" glimmers. You can wetsand the clear over the base.. just wanted too make that clear..