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: Is a 70's+ Malibu a Chevelle


Erik13
May 6th, 05, 12:09 PM
Would you consider a Malibu a chevelle in the years after the Chevelle had stopped being produced. I always considered my 79 Malibu somewhat of a Chevelle because of the similarities the two cars always held.

71chevelleconvtble
May 6th, 05, 12:23 PM
Do you mean 73's and later?

webfoot
May 6th, 05, 12:43 PM
Why wouldn't the 71, 72s & 73s be considered a "chevelle"?

RAMBO
May 6th, 05, 2:23 PM
73-77 cars still had the "Chevelle" name, as well as Malibu tacked on the end sometimes- So yes, they are Chevelles-

78-83/84 ONLY had the "Malibu" name- were never officially called chevelles... but I still consider them "chevelles". Now the modern incarnation- No i would not call that a chevelle.

fast67vellen2o
May 6th, 05, 6:31 PM
73-77's are Chevelles in my book... and some of them are damn cool!!!! 78-87 Malibu's and Elkys are always Malibus in my book.

Chris R
May 6th, 05, 10:08 PM
78-83/84 ONLY had the "Malibu" name- were never officially called chevelles

Awsom69 nailed it right there. Many non-GM parts books still called the 78-up Malibus an A body car and still used the Chevelle name. It is actually the highly used G body platform and all were Malibu, Landau, and Malibu Classic models.

onebum
May 8th, 05, 12:03 AM
I had a "78" Malibu Classic & it DIDN'T say/have Chevelle on it, I now have a "70" Malibu conv. & a friend has a "71" Malibu & they both have/say "Chevelle".

CheZeppelinCorps
May 8th, 05, 8:04 PM
If it says Chevelle than its a Chevelle. If it says Malibu then its a Malibu.

Dean
May 9th, 05, 12:07 AM
If it says Chevelle than its a Chevelle. If it says Malibu then its a Malibu.
there ya go
except it might be a Chevelle Malibu :)

Voting can't change what GM named a car.

al carson
May 9th, 05, 11:33 AM
First came the Chevelle for the families and the first generation. Customers wanted more power and styling-which introduced the MaliuSS. The rest is history.

Schurkey
May 9th, 05, 12:40 PM
"Voting can't change what GM named a car."

DING DING DING We have a WINNER!

blacky
May 10th, 05, 2:15 AM
'71s and '72s are the same body style as the imfamous '70 LS-6. Even though '73s and newer had lost some of their performance appearance, they all are Chevelles.

Autoengineer
May 10th, 05, 4:50 PM
If it says Chevelle than its a Chevelle. If it says Malibu then its a Malibu.


What if the rear trunk of my car says Chevelle and the inside door says Malibu? :)

Dean
May 10th, 05, 8:22 PM
What if the rear trunk of my car says Chevelle and the inside door says Malibu? :)
It's a Chevelle Malibu unless someone added the "Malibu" on the doors.

Merlin
May 11th, 05, 4:31 PM
'71s and '72s are the same body style as the imfamous '70 LS-6. Even though '73s and newer had lost some of their performance appearance, they all are Chevelles.

The 1970 LS6 is not my personal favorite, but I wouldn't refer to her as "infamous" either. Quite the contrary! :thumbsup:

Wooderson
May 14th, 05, 7:46 PM
Just checking. Every time I've read this post after May 11th, I don't get the new replies, even though there are supposed to be some.

Edit: still not there. Maybe there is a problem because this is a poll? I don't seem to have problems with the other topics.

Chevelle Dude
May 14th, 05, 7:54 PM
well, one thing that gets on my nirves is when people ask is my 71 chevelle a chevelle or a malibu.

LateNight72
May 14th, 05, 8:04 PM
From abouy 74ish+ a malibu, no I don't consider it a chevelle. From that point earlier I do consider it a chevelle. so 71, 72, 73 all fit in my book as a chevelle...

Redrum
May 15th, 05, 1:23 AM
Yes......... they were Chevelle's if that is what Chevrolet calls them.

Dean
May 16th, 05, 2:12 AM
Just checking. Every time I've read this post after May 11th, I don't get the new replies, even though there are supposed to be some.

Edit: still not there. Maybe there is a problem because this is a poll? I don't seem to have problems with the other topics.

I wondered about that also.
A vote brings the topic back to the top same as a reply.

Wooderson
May 16th, 05, 2:27 AM
I wondered about that also.
A vote brings the topic back to the top same as a reply.



I'll have to remember that.

Cam
May 30th, 05, 8:10 PM
My Chevelle dealer brochures go up to 1977; my 1978-up brochures call them Malibus with no mention of Chevelle anywhere.


Here's a link (http://www.stillruns.com/gloria.php)to just another old '76 base Chevelle Malibu. Note the Chevelle nameplate on the rear panel. I believe the emblem to be stock, but the Malibu emblem on the trunk doesn't belong there (just on the front fenders).

BlueSS454
Feb 20th, 06, 6:42 PM
Malibu Classic replaced the Chevelle name in 1975 I think it was, maybe 1976. Therefore any car designated a Malibu or Malibu Classic after that is not really a Chevelle since the name was dropped.

Professor_SS
Feb 20th, 06, 7:54 PM
first off the chevelle continued into the 70s. my 72 is a chevelle malbu. after chevrolet dropped the chevelle name the car is simply the malibu and I really don't see much of a connection between a FWD econo platform, and a very fugly one at that and our chevelles.

Dean
Feb 20th, 06, 10:33 PM
The 1970 LS6 is not my personal favorite, but I wouldn't refer to her as "infamous" either. Quite the contrary! :thumbsup:


infamous:

Having an exceedingly bad reputation; notorious.
Causing or deserving infamy; heinous: an infamous deed.
Law.
Punishable by severe measures, such as death, long imprisonment, or loss of civil rights.
Convicted of a crime, such as treason or felony, that carries such a punishment.

SteelChevelle
Feb 20th, 06, 11:32 PM
Can you imagine if this topic was in the Nova's forums. Look what Chevy did to that in the 80s. FWD? ick...

1970SS396&1967
Feb 21st, 06, 12:46 AM
Can you imagine if this topic was in the Nova's forums. Look what Chevy did to that in the 80s. FWD? ick...
I agree,what a piece of crap that thing turned into!!Personally,I still look at all the Malibu's as having SOME Chevelle heritage so I guess we can still call em Chevelle's.I kinda like the look of the late 70,early 80 Malibu and some guys have done some cool mods to em.JMO.

Aaron70Monte
Feb 21st, 06, 2:30 AM
I had a 1980 Malibu and I own a 2003 Malibu now and I don't consider either of those to be Chevelles (especially the FWD V6). The 2003 Malibu is a good car for what I am using it for but it in no way represents what the Chevelle was IMO.

DaleM
Feb 21st, 06, 1:15 PM
Up through 1972 (don't really care about later years, sorry) Chevelle was the Chevrolet series - like Impala, Nova, Camaro, etc. - and Malibu was a particular sub-series if you will just like Greenbrier, Nomad, etc. Depending on the year (from 64-72) the base model Chevelle was either a 300, 300 Deluxe, or Chevelle Standard. The Malibu was an 'upscale' series within the Chevelle lineup. Hence, all Malibus are Chevelles (just like the 300, 300 Deluxe, Greenbrier, Nomad, Concours wagons are all Chevelles) but not all Chevelles are Malibus. Why do some Chevelles have a Chevelle nameplate as well as Malibu? Same reason the (for example) 67 Super Sport has a Chevelle nameplate. The 67 Custom El Camino not only has El Camino nameplates but Malibu above the glove box.

73Malibu
Feb 21st, 06, 5:59 PM
My car is a Chevelle , and a Laguna not a Malibu!!

Malibu was only a specific trim level in the Chevelle line, this continued through 77.

73 had the Laguna top line, Malibu middle, Deluxe base. Z-15 SS equipment avail on the Malibu coupe and WAGON only.

74-77 had Malibu Classic as top line, Malibu as Base, Laguna Type S-3 as a seperate model for 74 - 76. Chevelle by Chevrolet was still on the trunk in 73 then moved to the tail panel for 74-77 (Except for the Laguna's)

The weird thing is my Laguna does not have the word Chevrolet anywhere except for on the derby type center caps, and the only bowties are on the Horn pad. They did put a Chevelle tag on the grille below the turn signal.


Chevy never called the 78 up models anything but Malibu's so they are not Chevelles. But they do make nice hot rods!!

sudolg
Feb 21st, 06, 6:28 PM
I had a 1980 Malibu and I own a 2003 Malibu now and I don't consider either of those to be Chevelles (especially the FWD V6). The 2003 Malibu is a good car for what I am using it for but it in no way represents what the Chevelle was IMO.

Good question. Does anyone consider the late model Malibu a Chevelle?

Chris R
Feb 24th, 06, 5:08 AM
Good question. Does anyone consider the late model Malibu a Chevelle?

Since the name has been dropped. I have only seen the Haynes manual refer the newer G bodies as Chevelles. I have an 1980 coupe as my next project car the G body fans dont refer to them as Chevelles either.

Mali Blu
Apr 8th, 06, 3:29 AM
The Malibu was a trim package through 76. In 77 Chevrolet dropped the Chevelle name and the car was called a Malibu,not a Chevelle. My wife owned a 77 Malibu Classic. The Chevelle name appeared NOWHERE on the car.
I still considered the car a Chevelle though,since the only change from 76 to 77 was the headlights.
We argued about it for YEARS. She was adament it was a Malibu. Technicaly I think she is right.

Junkyard Dawg
Apr 9th, 06, 7:26 PM
If it says Chevelle than its a Chevelle. If it says Malibu then its a Malibu.

So if I put a Chevelle emblem on a Yugo, does that make it a Chevelle too? :D

Dean
Apr 10th, 06, 11:06 AM
So if I put a Chevelle emblem on a Yugo, does that make it a Chevelle too? :D

NOPE, has to have been put on by a GM employee at a GM factory.

:D

68KMENO
Apr 11th, 06, 4:07 PM
NOPE, has to have been put on by a GM employee at a GM factory.

:D

SO ... that means my 68 El Camino Custom is a Malibu ?? emblems were installed on front fenders By GM employee at factory .... ;) (guess there is always an exception to the rule)

DaleM
Apr 12th, 06, 12:13 AM
At least up through 1972 the Malibu was a SEPARATE SERIES of Chevelle from the Chevelle Standard, or 300, or 300 Deluxe (depending on year). The Malibu included upgraded trim but was not a trim upgrade as such; much the same way the 66-68 Super Sport Chevelle was a separate series from the Malibu and upgraded trim but not a trim upgrade on the Malibu.

The 135/136xx El Camino (Custom or Deluxe depending on the year and how GM described them) are based on the Malibu series while the 133/134xx basic El Camino is based on the Chevelle Standard or 300 Deluxe depending on the year. My 67 Custom El Camino, 13680, has "Malibu" script above the glove compartment.

I have all the GM "Restoration Kits" from 65 to 72 and while I haven't checked them all yet, all I have checked do have Model Identification charts. Under 300 Deluxe/Standard is listed the 2-door sedan pickup and under Malibuis also listed the 2-coor sedan pickup.

So, yes your 1968 Custom El Camino is a Malibu if the VIN is 13580 or 13680.

68KMENO
Apr 12th, 06, 10:06 PM
13680... yep ok Malibu thanks Dale :) ... if you say so .. Now I've got a 68 malibu W/build sheet !! (snicker snicker) ;) I just thought it was the trim level .. just goes to show no matter how long I play with this thing I'll alway be learning about it ...

edb
Jul 12th, 06, 12:15 PM
How about this to make it even more interesting. Probably for '70 and '71, for sure in '72, they all started life as Chevelles. Malibu was a trim package that was added on and in '72 that changed your VIN from 1C (chevelle) to 1D (malibu). Hence the Chevelle emblem on the decklid and grill, and Malibu on the fenders and interior. If you ordered up the SS option, your trim changed to represent that option, with SS on the fenders (along with 454 if so equipped) and the interior. You never lost the Chevelle emblem on the decklid or grill. Lots of choices.

Junkyard Dawg
Jul 12th, 06, 1:07 PM
Yep, and to make the mud a little clearer, the Chevelle name was last used in '77....the car may not have said it but then again the '77 Chevelle had dual round headlamps while the Malibu had 4 quad stacked head lamps....nevertheless a '77 Malibu was still a Chevelle, just didn't have the script on it, and it was a little fancier/luxurious than the '77 Chevelle.

In '78 the Chevelle name was dropped and all cars became known as Malibu's. This was also the year the body style completely changed from long and heavy to boxy and light.

Dean
Jul 12th, 06, 4:32 PM
Can you believe that 34% of the people that voted actually voted NO?

:(

chevguy65
Jul 12th, 06, 4:43 PM
18.5% said no and 12.5% said somewhat.....LOL

They are one and the same until 1977, before that any Chevelle is either a Malibu, an SS or a 300, or a combination thereof.

Dean
Jul 12th, 06, 4:54 PM
18.5% said no and 12.5% said somewhat.....LOL



Is that what your screen shows?
Mine shows 35% NO now.
:confused:

LateNight72
Jul 12th, 06, 5:05 PM
Dean, it's 35 people, or 19% of the votes ;)

-Todd

DaleM
Jul 12th, 06, 5:09 PM
Can you believe that 34% of the people that voted actually voted NO?

:(

Question was really worded incorrectly IMO, should have been 73+ and not 71+.
In '73 there were Chevelle Deluxe, Chevelle Malibu and Chevelle Laguna but after that wasn't the "Chevelle" moniker dropped from the naming and "Malibu" became the base model, i.e. Malibu, Malibu Classic, Laguna? Even then, the 74 Malibu still had Chevelle script on the grille and after that GMs own ads proclaimed Malibu and not Chevelle.

Bottom line, I'd still consider all of them under the Chevelle umbrella up through 77 since they are A-bodied and basically didn't change from 73 to 77.

chevguy65
Jul 12th, 06, 5:20 PM
35 votes but only 19%

Still to many.....lol

Dean
Jul 12th, 06, 5:27 PM
Dean, it's 35 people, or 19% of the votes ;)

-Todd
OOPS DUAH :o :o :o :o

Brandy&Chevelle
Dec 8th, 06, 1:51 PM
I have a 1974 Chevelle: Malibu Classic. It's got both the 'Malibu Classic' Emblems and 'Chevelle' emblems

Malibu on fenders, Chevelle on the grille and rear panel

JNorton
Dec 9th, 06, 7:41 PM
I have a 72 Malibu. I call it a Chevelle. It says Chevelle all over it, and in 72, Malibu just meant it was given a couple creature comforts. I am currently "reconditioning" the car to a plain old Chevelle.

eric13617
Dec 10th, 06, 3:31 AM
Would you consider a Malibu a chevelle in the years after the Chevelle had stopped being produced. I always considered my 79 Malibu somewhat of a Chevelle because of the similarities the two cars always held.

Eric,Chevelles were built from 1964-1972. 1973 to 1977 were Chevelles also "by their markings".Later cars were Malibu,not a Chevelle....To most ,not all car guys and girls,we consider the 73 and later cars non muscle cars because the muscle car era was all but over by then.The last year for the Nova ,Camaro,Charger,RoadRunner,Mustang,Galaxy,Rambler and so on was 1972 if not early 73.By 1971 the leaded fuel was all but gone and the Goverment had stepped in and issued new regulations for smog control and EPA rules.Hp.numbers that were relativaly high for their time had dropped by almost half. In 1970 the CRX code 454was rated at 450 hp.In 1971,the CPR code 454 had dropped to 425 hp.And by 1972 theCRX code 454 had dropped to a mere 270 hp.Compression had also dropped from11:1 TO 8.5:1.

dreis454
Dec 11th, 06, 11:48 AM
The 1970 LS6 is not my personal favorite,I wouldn't refer to her as "infamous" either. Quite the contrary! :thumbsup:
Boy you have things all wrong

Mr Chevelle
Dec 11th, 06, 1:15 PM
:thumbsup: 64-77 Chevelle....78-83 Malibu