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: To race ?


Davidmalibu
Apr 30th, 05, 3:32 AM
Hello,

My car is 64 ss with goodwrench 350 engine, powerglide and 3.08 10 bolts posi
The wheels are front 7x15 225/60/15 and rear 235/60/15
It is a street car
I would like to do some runs (in France, we say run, there is not really drag races !)
What do you think about that ?
Is it possible to do a burnout ? with no slicks ? with no line-lock ?
Is it better to use a th350 than the glide ?
Could I use nos with no others modifications (trans and rear end)
what will be my time ? about 16 or 17 without nos ? and with the nos ?
Thanks for help

Slowpoke70
Apr 30th, 05, 4:27 AM
The TH350 is WAY better for drag racing a street combo. The first gear makes the car pull tons quicker out of the hole and is just more fun to drive overall.

Davidmalibu
Apr 30th, 05, 5:14 AM
more infos:
The engine is goodwrench 350 CID PART NUMBER 10067353, I bought it new, in a speedshop in belgium, approximatively 5 years ago.
Could you tell me more specifications about this engine ? HP / RPM, torque, 4bolts ?
Is it the same engine than goodwrench 12499529 HP 290 Crate Engine ?

Others parts are:
Edelbrock performer intake
600 cfm Edelbrock carb
Headman 4 in 1
HEI Mallory ignition
"50 series Flowmaster"

Davidmalibu
May 1st, 05, 6:05 PM
Nobody ? :-(
thanks

hoffbug
May 1st, 05, 6:22 PM
If you are interested in performance by all means go to a dragstrip and make some runs. Its a much more accurate way to measure performance and you wont get a ticket or endanger anyone elses life.

BTW.... Replies do come slowly here.Usually over the course of a day or two.
This is a bulletin board. not a chat room. :thumbsup:

Davidmalibu
May 1st, 05, 6:51 PM
Ok, I just wanted to know what you think about my combo.
So, thank you for your help, I'll do that.
Sorry for my impatience.
David

OzRod
May 2nd, 05, 5:31 AM
That's one cool ride. Sounds like an awesome street motor combo. There seems to be much debate on this board about the edlebrock carbs. I've personally never used one, and i'm not going to bag em, but most positive feedback comes from those running edelbrock carbs on hot street applications.

Maybe you'll get a better response if you post your cam specs and compression. This will give us a true indication on how the car responds, driving characteristics, etc. Also, I checked out the GM performance and goodwrench web site and couldn't find a listing for the part number you mentioned.

69boo307
May 2nd, 05, 8:13 AM
well, for reference, my chevelle with the factory 307, powerglide, and 3.42 rear ran a 16.2@89mph in the 1/4 mile. My car wouldn't do a burnout unless I was in the 'water box' with it wetted down good.
With your 350 you should be in the 15's, although the 3.08 gears work against you.

mr 4 speed
May 2nd, 05, 9:16 AM
maybe a g-tech peformance meter or similar device can help you out.
Wow..France
Chevrolet gets around!

"Coolness" is a universal thing

Davidmalibu
May 5th, 05, 9:26 AM
OzRod, here some infos about my engine I find there:

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:jjCiSH_H7tI
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This universal 350ci engine uses a brand new block and can be used as a replacement for most GM vehicles from 1970-85. It produces 260hp and 350 ft/lbs of torque with a 4bbl carb and headers.

Specifications:
4 bolt main with 2 piece rear main seal
Cast iron crankshaft
LT1/LT4 powdered metal connecting rods
Cast pistons (dished)
Hydraulic flat tappet cam, (.383''/.401'') and a 112° lobe separation
Cast iron cylinder heads with 76cc chambers
8.5:1 compression ratio
Left and right hand dipstick
4 quart oil pan
Timing tabs for a 6-3/4'' or an 8'' balancer
Recommended spark plug- Accel 111-574 or any spark plug with 14mm, .460'' reach, 5/8'' hex, tapered seat, projected tip


69boo307, so it will be difficult to burn with a 3.08 rear, isn'it ?
what do you think about using slicks tires, would it be ok ?


mr 4 speed, there is no many chevys in France, camaros, vettes but a few chevelles !!!
so thank you guys for help because it's difficult here to get informations

Natural Born Killer
May 5th, 05, 9:55 AM
Yes you can do a burnout, do you know how to power brake a car? Nitrous is no problem, just keep it reasonable, maybe 125 shot. A TH350 is way better for you than a glide. What you really need is lower gears. You have got a good foundation. After you go to the track you will probably want to start modifying things. I think you will probably run in the 15s and maybe low 14s to high 13s on the juice. Hard to say not knowing much about your setup. Do you folks run 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile, or some metric equivilent?

1971 Chevelle
May 5th, 05, 11:29 AM
My car has a turbo 350 with 3.08's and with its mild motor will spin the tires like crazy without even power-braking.

Harold Sutton
May 5th, 05, 11:32 AM
David, I really wouldn't worry about doing a burnout with street tires as it serves no useful purpose and gets your engine hot. If you want to clean the tires then turn them over a couple of times. That is O.K. but never spin the tires when the possibility of suddenly hooking up might occur. This is how most Turbo transmissions get broken, spin then suddenly hook and the sprag breaks. It's not a certainty but is a possibility.

Davidmalibu
May 5th, 05, 2:59 PM
Natural Born Killer: " Yes you can do a burnout, do you know how to power brake a car? "

Not really, brake and accelerator at the same time and then stop brake action ?
I try one time ( no water on tires) but it was impossibleto do.
You put in " drive " to burn ???
It is the reason I would like to use a line-lock and slicks to go on the track.
Am I right ?
" Do you folks run 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile, or some metric equivilent? "

In france, it is incredible, but there is no premanent track ! we have to use the straight line of a speedway for a week-end !
So, we go to England or Germany, they have real tracks .
we run 1/4 mile.


1971 Chevelle: " My car has a turbo 350 with 3.08's and with its mild motor will spin the tires like crazy without even power-braking. "

What about the glide to spin the tires ????

Thanks for help, I understand that the best way would be to use a th-350 and a lower rear, but it's not easy to find parts in France and it is expensive.

Natural Born Killer
May 5th, 05, 3:56 PM
The trick to a successful power brake burnout is to apply enough pressure on brakes to hold car still but to let the rear brakes slip a little. You dont want to mash down on the brake pedal to hard or it just locks up all four brakes and nothing happens. Start in low gear and after the engine gets up in the rpm range, shift to second. You can keep brakes on and just sit in one spot smoking the tires or you can release brakes and lay down some nice black stripes. Line lock makes it easier but isnt totally neccessary. Dont need slicks at your level of power. They are actually harder to burn off because they get stickier as they heat up. We can get any part you need to make a rocket out of your car, but the shipping from here would probably be outrageous. But if there is something you have just gotta have and cant get in France I am sure some one here could help you out.

jbird
May 5th, 05, 4:06 PM
We run both 1/8th and 1/4 here. 1/8th seems to be getting more popular. If you can't spin the tires on dry pavement, you really don't need to do a burnout. The glide is definitely making it harder for you to spin the tires. A th-350 has a much lower first gear, and I'm sure you would spin the tires with ease if you had one.:)

Good luck!