Does anyone know of a lemans blue 1969 chevelle that has been in cape cod since 1994? or so[ss hood and wheels although it cosmetically looked like a 396 car]..it is a 4 speed console w black interior[converted from a turbo 400 car]...driver condition has 396 emblems[back emblem way off center],but is a copo 427 car from new..originally from scuncio chevrolet..earliest known in bristol RI on main? street,outside for a few years at a father son getty or gas station...rhode island car from 1969 thru 1990 or so..reward for info...last owner car dealer in cape cod...

It probably isn't

Arent you they guy that has the gm documentation?

No, but unless there is real original gm paper, and a only a few owners over the years I believe nothing about these cars. Frankly unless its the above situation I put more faith in a car that has been made to be a frame of restoration replica, I can't see the difference.

one thing is for sure there is a lot of crack heads running around trying to pass something off for what its not. lots of people getting burned now days looking to buy an authentic piece only to find its a fake. I don't care what anybody says it makes a difference in having the pride and knowledge knowing you own the real thing and not a fake. my point is these days people have to seek out those that have the real mccoys or can locate them, develop relationships with these folks, although there will be deceivers in their ranks also, have patience and listen and those fakers will be brought to light by the very people they adhere to. those very people that have access to the real cars you have called liars and cheats, those people have been doing this most all their lives and can smell a real copo car a mile away and you ridecule them like a child, tried to help you in the beginning and you as well as slapped them in the face. listen to the good folks on this site as well as the other two and you can own a REAL copo car yourself. i personally would rather have a real copo or yenko car that needed extensive restoration work even without the original powertrain, than own a total restored, pristine condition car that had yenko stickers but was not the real thing. that would pertain to any car, i want the true blue, real mccoy. whoever bought the fake zl1 camaro a while ago, although it had a date coded motor, for a 100k ought to taken to a wood shed and spanked with a belt for such nonsense. but thats just my opinion and everybody knows whos got one, i'll just cozy up to the guys that know what the real thing is and take advantage of a good deal when the right situation arises.

Well Mr. MarkIV I can tell you this, I didn't start it, and lets be real NO ONE has tried to help me, it's me against them since the beginning and I didn;t call them crooks or *******s first, and it REALLY DOESN'T MATTER, THEY HAVE THEIR OPINION, I HAVE MINE, AND SINCE YOU ASKED HERE IS MINE:

I know the trouble it takes to build a date correct car from 1969 and it is agreed that what I have done with the car is quite nice. The only difference between a good replica using correct parts and your so called real cars is paper, the tangible aspects of the car ARE THE SAME! Your pride and knowledge of knowing that you have car that came that way in 1969 and the perceived value of this is a bonafide illusion and truly differs by perception of the beholder.

The tangible aspects (paint, body, quality of the restoration) of the car is the most important thing for value plain and simple, and the only reason you are sticking with old guard is because it's in your best interest.

Please don't confuse my statements above as it being ok to build your own COPO and say its original, but your rusted out hulks Copos that are put back together with reproductions and also correct parts as they are available are exactly the same as any good clone, pride's an illusion as well, one I wouldn't cling to tightly to, as they say "pride goeth before a fall".

A well done replica is worth a lot, and a original one or two owner COPO with low miles and REAL GM paper is worth more becasue those truly are rare, anything inbetween is a clone as far as I am concerned, worth as much as mine or a Chevelle thats had an all modern suspension and drive line retrofit. You know the 502 Chevelle with all the trimmings. Thats a great car too and pulls the money. Why ? becasue you can drive it and have fun with it instead of putting a glass case around it and admiring it through the week and maybe take it out once in a while for show. Hell my car is so damn perfect I don't even drive it more than once a month. Thats not why I got in the hobby, I grew up with these cars too Mr. Mark IV, although I am a few years younger, driving them is what is all about.

So thats it. Good bye!

I didntr realize the above statement by markV was aimed at anyone in particular,rather just a generalization.

Oh no, here we go again! Probably another world record threat.

Read it again slowly it's both

It probably isn'tNothing to contribute? Seems that the only thing you're trying to do is ruin Ls6Convertible's topic. :sad:

Well we wouldn't want to do that all I said in the beginning is it's probably not.

I certainly don't mean to hijack ls6's thread. documentation was brought up here. and Lord knows it doesn't do any good to reason. fact is your opinion of clone cars being just as respected as the real copos is simply not true, it is exactly what you say, your opinion, as what i state is mine. just a few facts, i personally mean no disrespect to the cars that are not factory correct some i have seen are fabulous works, but the fact is what are they trying to replicate - a copo car, correct? imitation is the most sincere form of flattery, isn't that how the saying goes? my take on it is if its an SS car missing a powertrain component for what ever reason thats fine with me, i still have the same respect for that car regardless, but a 6 cylinder car transplanted with all the hipo goodies it just doesn't do it for me, not saying your chevelle is a 6 cylinder car, but we all know a copo its not. I'm sure its a fine automobile, i agree it looks good in the ad pics i've seen of it. money- I passed on a deal last year, a copo camaro, wrong color, a piece of junk to the untrained eye, seats torn, dash torn, no carpet, no shift boot could see the road while driving, date coded motor and i think wrong transmission, but a documented copo car for 40k, the gentleman sold it before i left the car show for exactly 40k. the price difference between genuine and non-genuine cars is most assuredly not someones opinion. Oh and another example i'm sure your aware of the yenko chevelle and camaro that sold recently!!!

Actually Bain i have the car, the original buildsheet,and copo connection paperwork.I was simply trying to get ahold of the first owner who i havent found yet and thought someone here from the RI area may remember the car......Just because your car turned out to be a clone,doesnt mean you have to wish everyone elses is too to make you feel better.Nothing wrong with clones at all,im with markV id rather own a rust bucket POS copo chevelle than a show winner , original panel recreation,clone or whatever else they are being called nowadays.

My car is a COPO where on earth did you get the idea it wasn't. I have held back evidence I have in my possession since the beginning of your groups carniverous mob rule behavior. So whatever, as I said I would rather have a car I can drive all the time coz thats the real value. Congradulations on all the nice docs you have for your car, how often will you drive it?

My car is a COPO where on earth did you get the idea it wasn't.

:D

Hey Mr. 4 speed you are a right on guy!

Still looking for that one smidgen of proof...........He has it but he doesn't want to show it because he couldn't stand to see us apologize to him...Yeah, that's it.

YOur a right on guy too Mr. Chili!!! Hey I do have a good question for the collective brain trust however, I have been looking at POPs and everyine I have seen so far is a little bit different. people make a big deal about these things, are they really that significant, and how do you know if it's real?

Dont tell him how to tell if its real.

Dont tell him how to tell if its real.
What DONNY said. While someone might think of it as a 'secret society', this info needs to be kept from unscrupulous(sp?) people.

Do I see a brand spanking new POP coming as that one tiny smidgen ?

NO not at all, but one thing is for sure the secrets of your society only MAKE IT APPEAR THAT YOU ARE HIDING SOMETHING. Suit yourself I don't care I thought it was an important question that many would find valuable who are quite honest. The fact is I have seen many POPs that are claimed to be authentic and many people seem to think that POP gives the car so much validity. Asking if it's true and how to spot a fake is important info that anyone in the Chevelle world should know. tHE INFORMATION ISN'T GOING TO CURTAIL REPRODUCTIONS OR HELP THEM IN MY ESTIMATION. THE REPRODUCTIONS ARE ALREADY QUITE GOOD. THE FINE POINTS SHOULD BE KNOWN BY ALL. BUT IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR SECRET GO AHEAD IT JUST PROVES MY POINT ABOUT YOUR CLUB(CULT).

Well I will go ahead and give back to the Hobby since you guys won't here si a real protectOPlate!

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"Don't Tell Him" Keep it a secret!!! My God you guys make me laugh!

Real or Cloned, ALL Chevelles are awesome and worthy of driving/owning. Just my .02

Thank you

He didnt say all copos real or cloned were worthy of being sold as factory cars.

whats your point

"Does anyone know of a lemans blue 1969 chevelle that has been in cape cod since 1994? or so[ss hood and wheels although it cosmetically looked like a 396 car]..it is a 4 speed console w black interior[converted from a turbo 400 car]...driver condition has 396 emblems[back emblem way off center],but is a copo 427 car from new..originally from scuncio chevrolet..earliest known in bristol RI on main? street,outside for a few years at a father son getty or gas station...rhode island car from 1969 thru 1990 or so..reward for info...last owner car dealer in cape cod"



I found the original owner to this car, PM me for all the info. Ed

The car was last titled in Mass to Charles Owens. It was bought new by Leonard R Dercole Jr 65 Ridgeway Rd Cranston, RI 02920 (401) 714-0030. Ed

copos for everyone!

WOW:bow:

The car was last titled in Mass to Charles Owens. It was bought new by Leonard R Dercole Jr 65 Ridgeway Rd Cranston, RI 02920 (401) 714-0030. Ed

WOW:bow:

I wish the owner of the car cared about this info as much as you did. I posted it here to prove a point. The owner talks a good game but thats about it, who really knows if he is the owner of this car or its one of his buddy's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What point are you trying to prove? You posted it 3 years after the original thread was posted? Am I missing something?

I find all this very entertaining, copo,hobo,yaho, idono, keep it up!

Jeff, what you are missing is that what Ed does is try and play games to find out where owners and cars are. Ive already heard the "original owner is dying,wants to see the car " BS trick and email pics of only a windshield saying "this is your car" from 1970.. Hes got everyone thinking he has all the scuncio paperwork, but he uses NICB reports and old library microfische ads to try and find cars/owners and lure people to him with the limited info he has . As a joke i called his "original owner" over a year after Ed emailed me, not only is he still alive but he was so excited to see his old car he never called me back ,lol. And Ed one last thing, if you have all the invoices how come you agree with me on color of one of my cars when i completely made it up ?? I didnt respond to you numerous posts and 10 emails over the past 4 years but dont call out someone on a forum that knows alot more than you do. Yes I have owned 6 scuncio cars and still own 3,maybe I should set up a website and call myself a scuncio expert too. Then again im too busy driving/restoring these cars to go to the library and look up dead people and run illegal nicbs on other peoples cars.

How would he have access to the nicb reports? That is pretty tricky from waht I understand.

geez guys cool your jets----this is supposed to be fun...any one want a 65SS you could turn it into a Z16?

In my opinion, Ed has done quite a bit to post information about Scuncio cars and others. No matter where or how he gets the info, he gets a :thumbsup: from me.
He has unselfishly listed vins on detroit hp as well as a bunch of cool pics of Bob Johnson's various cars and I would not have my Scuncio if he hadn't posted a couple pix of it on Team Camaro & Detroit HP a few yrs ago.
Keep up the good work :beers:

Jeff, what you are missing is that what Ed does is try and play games to find out where owners and cars are. Ive already heard the "original owner is dying,wants to see the car " BS trick and email pics of only a windshield saying "this is your car" from 1970.. Hes got everyone thinking he has all the scuncio paperwork, but he uses NICB reports and old library microfische ads to try and find cars/owners and lure people to him with the limited info he has . As a joke i called his "original owner" over a year after Ed emailed me, not only is he still alive but he was so excited to see his old car he never called me back ,lol. And Ed one last thing, if you have all the invoices how come you agree with me on color of one of my cars when i completely made it up ?? I didnt respond to you numerous posts and 10 emails over the past 4 years but dont call out someone on a forum that knows alot more than you do. Yes I have owned 6 scuncio cars and still own 3,maybe I should set up a website and call myself a scuncio expert too. Then again im too busy driving/restoring these cars to go to the library and look up dead people and run illegal nicbs on other peoples cars.

There are two sides to every story. Your explaination of the post sheds a different light on the subject.
Thanks.

Jeff, what you are missing is that what Ed does is try and play games to find out where owners and cars are. Ive already heard the "original owner is dying,wants to see the car " BS trick and email pics of only a windshield saying "this is your car" from 1970.. Hes got everyone thinking he has all the scuncio paperwork, but he uses NICB reports and old library microfische ads to try and find cars/owners and lure people to him with the limited info he has . As a joke i called his "original owner" over a year after Ed emailed me, not only is he still alive but he was so excited to see his old car he never called me back ,lol. And Ed one last thing, if you have all the invoices how come you agree with me on color of one of my cars when i completely made it up ?? I didnt respond to you numerous posts and 10 emails over the past 4 years but dont call out someone on a forum that knows alot more than you do. Yes I have owned 6 scuncio cars and still own 3,maybe I should set up a website and call myself a scuncio expert too. Then again im too busy driving/restoring these cars to go to the library and look up dead people and run illegal nicbs on other peoples cars.

Hey Chuck get of your high horse before some on knocks you off it. I was just trying to help you but myself and most others can tell your just an a$$. The picture thing was a joke because every time you post a picture its 1X1 and blury. I only know of two of your cars the black 69 396/375 (not 427) Chevelle and the green Copo I never said I have all the invoices, and I never said he was dying I said he has cancer. I also never said he wanted to see the car maybe he could careless about it. I spoke with an original owner of COPO out Norwood Chevrolet in RI and he did not know what the big deal about it was it was just a car to him. I have had NICB's run and so have a lot of other guy's on this site,whats wrong you pissed because you can't do it? I don't know what happened but we used to talk and share info,maybe it was the run in with my buddy Mark that changed things. If you have something to say to me Chuck give me a call or I can take a ride up to Morris and we can talk it over in person,so stop trying to sound like a tuff guy on the internet no tricks or BS here. I did not know that you drove/restored cars I thought you just parted them out. So start your web site of over priced parts and tall tales,I never said I was an expert you did.


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In my opinion, Ed has done quite a bit to post information about Scuncio cars and others. No matter where or how he gets the info, he gets a :thumbsup: from me.
He has unselfishly listed vins on detroit hp as well as a bunch of cool pics of Bob Johnson's various cars and I would not have my Scuncio if he hadn't posted a couple pix of it on Team Camaro & Detroit HP a few yrs ago.
Keep up the good work :beers:



I Agree.

I have met Ed and can tell he has spent a lot of time doing good research on Scuncio and other cars including working with Bob Johnson.

Awile ago, I looked at a Z/28 with an original looking Scuncio dealer emblem on it.
I called Ed on it and he knew all out the car before I told him anything.