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: Small Block guys please post your 1/4 times, who's the fastest?


chevydog66
Mar 20th, 05, 2:52 PM
I'm just curious? I was just wondering who has the fastest small block on the board here? And what the weight of said person's car is, and how much modification it took to get to that point. Like say for instance, how much suspension work, or air intake work, or glass parts for weight loss, and so on. I'm just getting started in this and am trying to make a fast sbc in a stock car, with full interior, steel panels, without too much modification.

SSchevy400
Mar 20th, 05, 3:20 PM
Not the fastest but here is my combo:
1970 Nova..3200 lbs with driver
90/10s shocks and 50/50 rears
400sbc .060 over
350 crank 3.48 stroke
13.8:1 TRW forged pistons
Weiand TEAM G Intake
Comp Cams Solid lift 288 advertised, 259 @ .50 ground on a 106. 550/570 lift
Holley 800 DP
Heads are an 1971 aftermarket GM head. I think is a 373 casting. 2.02's ported and polished and intake matched.
suppose to be a 3800 stall...i think its more like 3400
TH-350
4.56 gears...
Micky thompson E/T drags 15/8.5 I think 26 inches tire

R/T -.104
60' 1.772
330 5.095
1/8 7.869
MPH 88.31
990 10.218
1/4 12.363
MPH 106.68

That was my old combo...Now i have Race Rites 200's, a Holley Strip Dominator and 5000 stall...we'll see

Ed

Nickel333
Mar 20th, 05, 3:36 PM
Well i guess ill go first. 11.88@ 114, i kept going quicker{low et} and faster {mph} but then my rear end broke off thie line, probably had some low 11.70's in it that night...this is in my 73' Nova. Weight is 3500 lbs +or minus 10 depending on the shape im in!!!! Its a 350, Brodix RR200's Way too much cam with 268/278@.050. Thats going to change this spring, im opting for somthing about 20 degrees smaller on the exaust and about 14 degrees smaller on the intake....this ought to wake her up a bit, after tuning and working it all out im looking for 11.30's with it if i get to the track this year!! Im running a 5 speed Richmond and a 9" ford rear. I havent done any suspension work, or really any tuning outside of a few jet changes. All i have are generic slappers, {going to cal tracs maybe this year} I do have a fiberglass cowl hood but everything else is steel. Full interior. The shocks are 80/20 comp. engineering in front with stock in back. This car is driven everywhere, and if need be can be a daily driver.
NOW if i was you and i had a heavy stock chevelle...id be looking for somthing in the 400+ ci range. just my input, hope it helps.

69chevelle355
Mar 20th, 05, 3:45 PM
I'M THE FASTEST I GUARANTEE IT!!!!!

no seriously though i'm bone stock except for a holley carb i got for free, an edelbrock performer intake i got for almost free, and a set of dynomax headers which i got for free. my times are in my sig and if i had to guess i would say i weigh right around 3500 lbs. (the car, not me) full interior. all steel. only suspension work are air bags in the rear springs.

1bad67
Mar 20th, 05, 4:07 PM
3400lb 67 all steel 355 runs 11.30 at 119 with a stock bottom end 11.1 cr. 550 lift solid with 1.5 rockers. It doesn't take much, you just need to spend money in the right place. Assembly is as critical as parts selection as well as converter and gearing.

How fast do you want to go? There are a few here that run in the 9's on spray. 10.00-9.90 is achievable in a 3400 steel ride N/A, however it will not be a street car.

There are plenty of mid to low 11sec pump gas SBC here on the board.

Slowpoke70
Mar 20th, 05, 5:22 PM
"Marooned", you out there?

9.925@72.6 in the 1/8th, stock smogger 350 with holley/dual plane and headers. TH350/2.73.

phantom
Mar 20th, 05, 5:41 PM
80 Malibu with a full cage 400 turbo TCI transbreak 8-inch Coan 5100 converter 12 bolt SSM kit 456 gears. Glass bumpers hood and doors Lexan side windows no interior two seats and a nice fabricated aluminum dash. The last time I weighed the car it had steel doors and iron heads and weighed 3180 with me in the car.
Last year I ran a Lj 331 350 4 bolt block Apr studs line honed gm steel crank 5.700 Eagle rods TRW 2211af pistons 13.1 solid cam ported double humps vr jr intake. 950 BG carb and a pro race fogger.
The car ran a best of 12.06 on motor 11.15 175 of Nos and a wild 10.64 at a 124 on 250 of Nos.

That was the old engine I have a new engine I’m putting together 414 14-1 sb CNC Pro-1’s Dart block Lunati crank Oliver rods Je pistons.

-SS454-
Mar 20th, 05, 7:03 PM
That Wilson guy with the 422 or whatever is in the 10s.

forcd ind
Mar 20th, 05, 7:22 PM
i had a 71 chevelle, 3815 lbs w/me, p/s, p/b, a/c
383 s/b, w/procharger dib, intercooler, turbo 400, 3:73, 295 d/r's
10.50, 128 in 1/4 with 93 octane-full interior, drive anywhere
had afr 215 heads, mild solid flat tappet blower cam, vic jr intake

my 68 nova went deep in the nine's, 415 s/b, f2 procharger, street trim,
prob could have hit 8's with a more agressive cam, more boost, higher octane fuel(and a diff driver)

Pat Kelley
Mar 20th, 05, 7:40 PM
I'm no where near as quick as some. 11.50@115, 1.53 60', NA 355, 4.56, 3800 stall, Vic Jr., 296 hydraulic FT cam, Sportsman II heads, 3400# (20 gals and me).

Slowpoke70
Mar 20th, 05, 7:47 PM
(20 gals and me).

Pat, you must be a ladies man, 20 Gal's and just you huh? :thumbsup:

Wolfplace
Mar 20th, 05, 8:07 PM
Does this count:D :D
6.28 @ 217 - 358 inch small block TAD


http://wsm.ezsitedesigner.com/share/scrapbook/19/190264/Rear_Engine_Color1.JPG

Fremont 1981

http://wsm.ezsitedesigner.com/share/scrapbook/19/190264/Rear_Engine_Wheelstand_1.JPG

Bakersfield March Meet, 1978 I think (oops,,,) :o

383Malibu
Mar 20th, 05, 8:22 PM
Our Malibu weighs 3500# (OK, I admit… it’s only 3498 and I round it up), all steel, full interior, street legal, ladder bars and coil overs, but no tubs. Current motor is a naturally aspirated, single 4 barrel, 383 with 13.5:1 cr, out of the box competition ready AFR 220s, Dart Wilson intake and a roller cam (276/283 @ .050”, .740”/.709” lift, 112 lsa, 110 icl). It runs 10.0s/135. Pics and specifics are on our web site in my signature.

bigjimzlll
Mar 20th, 05, 8:23 PM
11.03 @119 67 C10 LWB with a 406/12.5-1 cr solid roller 4.56 and 5000 stall..race weight 3950 with me in it

68chevelle533
Mar 20th, 05, 10:14 PM
For a cruiser I think mine runs OK.
1970/All steel body/full interior
405/AFR190
XE268 (pretty much smooth idle)
11inch/3.73
full 2.5 exh (very quiet)
12.06/111.32

Rich-L79
Mar 20th, 05, 11:17 PM
Bone, and I mean BONE stock, 3580# with me and half a tank of gas: 14.934 @ 91.71mph.

Not the quickest, but it has also brought home scores of 967, 971 and 985 points from 1000-point judged Chevelle shows. :D

All that with a measley 327! ;)

mike1985
Mar 21st, 05, 12:56 PM
1985 carbed corvette
3100 lbs , stock 135K mile suspension
355 9.8-1, comp nitrous cam( 218-230@.050 480 lift) rpm , 750 VS elec choke, rpm, 1.75 headers 2.5" dual ex. turbo 350 3500 stall( too high) 3.08 gears.

motor, on 26X11.5X16 ET Streets
12.63@109, 1.77 60'
11.38@118, 1.55 60' 100 shot
10.98@124 , 1.64 60' 150 shot.

I'm switching back to the 700r-4 and a 2800 stall with a dual stage 200 shot for 05:)


daily driven all year round in Northwest , IN. ( yes even in the snow with different rear tires.

clean7t
Mar 21st, 05, 5:39 PM
Suddenly My car seems really slow.
70 Chevelle 406with plenty of quality parts for durabilty
700-R4 more part
12.40 in the 1/4 with no tuning done to it yet, all in street trim.

JOHN WILSON
Mar 21st, 05, 6:47 PM
What's your idea of fast? Does it need to be pump gas?

Here's mine:
422 (4.165x3.875), solid roller 273/283 @.05 .689/.673, Dart Pro-1's 215cc ported, Super Vic ported, HP1000 carb, 12.5:1 comp, 8" 5200 converter, Th-350, 4.56's. Car now weighs around 3550 with a near full tank and my 250lbs. Glass hood, the rest is factory, full interior.

I have a pump gas 383 combo that works real well if your taste leans more towards pump gas/driver.

Slowpoke70
Mar 21st, 05, 7:29 PM
I have a pump gas 383 combo that works real well if your taste leans more towards pump gas/driver.

I'm not sure if he's interested, but I am! I would appreciate it if you posted the combo.

chevydog66
Mar 21st, 05, 9:42 PM
Well, since I started this I guess I should post mine too.
355 ci. steel crank
TRW 11:1 cr
Eagle H beam rods
Dart Pro 1's 64cc 2.05 int. 1.6 exh 215cc runners
Dart Air gap single plane high rise intake
Harland Sharp 1.6 roller rockers
Comp cams CS 285 CR6 .562 int. lift, .550 exh.
Comp cams roller lifters, push rods and springs
Comp cams double roller chain
Speed Demon 850 carb last year now Race Demon 750
MSD 85551 with 6A box
Hooker Super Comp 1 3/4" headers
Flowmaster muffs
TH350 w/3000 stall column shifted
3:55 posi rear w/Hotchkis adjustable arms and sway
Fiberglass fenders with no hood
3150lbs. w/no hood
Full interior and spare
Last year I ran a 12.95 1/4 mile @106.35 on all season radial tires
R/T .742
60' 2.073
330 5.564
1/8 8.399
1000 10.849
1/4 12.959 @106.35

I have installed M/T ET 275/50/15 street radials, 4" glass cowl hood, B&M street bandit. I'm hoping for 11.95 this year with traction and a dyno tune.

Nickel333
Mar 21st, 05, 10:40 PM
Well theres a few tings i see right off the bat.....3150lbs seems very light to me even with the fenders. I bet its more like 3,500+. Man 3100 lbs is 62-63 chevyII weight, i dont want to start an arguement, its just an observation. I bet you could use more gear, probably more like 4.10's-4.33's or so. Just my ovservation, let somone else ring in with more expierence. Where do you shift at just out of curiosity, where did you cross the finish line RPM wise on your 12.95 run?

JOHN WILSON
Mar 21st, 05, 11:25 PM
Enrique- The 383 belongs to a friend that posts here on occassion.
The basic run down is:
383-10.7:1 comp
Comp HR294 hydro-roller
1.6 ratio rockers
AFR-195's-hand ported
Super Vic-w/plenum clean-up
1.75" headers
HP950 carb
MSD Digital 6-Plus
TH-350 8" converter
4.10's and 28x12.5 ET Streets.

The car weighs ~3600 and has run 10.8's in good air here at sea level.

Chevydog- there are a few things that could be changed on your combo that would have you going quicker. Some would affect street manners, some wouldn't. The question is, what are you willing to change to get that 11.9x timeslip? The good news is it only takes about 370hp at 3150 (if thats an accurate race weight) to run 11.99@112.

Harold Sutton
Mar 22nd, 05, 1:51 PM
Boy that Copeland car is really running good. That thing must be turning a little over 8000 RPM at the finish line at 135 MPH with a 5.00 gear.

Harold Sutton
Mar 22nd, 05, 2:08 PM
The fastest full sized car i've seen came to Tulsa a couple of years ago. It was a '57 Chevy with a 434" SB-2 engine, and i think had a clutchless five speed with an unknown rear gear. It weighed a little under 3400 pounds at ran a 9.12 @ 149 MPH on drag radials. It has since been rolled and totally destroyed, but the engine is for sale as it survived the crash. It has Nascar ported heads and intake and reportedly makes 950 H.P. and belongs to the father of a shootout racer from Kansas named Stan Williams.

383Malibu
Mar 22nd, 05, 2:51 PM
Boy that Copeland car is really running good. That thing must be turning a little over 8000 RPM at the finish line at 135 MPH with a 5.00 gear.Thanks for the props Harold. You're real close... on a good pass it's nudging 8100 (according to the Racepak) in the traps. :beers:

Twilightoptics
Mar 22nd, 05, 4:15 PM
Not the fastest by far, but see sig for mods. 3750lbs with me and a full tank. No A/C, 1987 Iroc. 13.0@107 is my fastest so far strickly on street tires. I hope to see 12.8 soon with my exhaust mod and tuning, and dreaming of an 11 second pass with Drag Radials.... which is pretty good for that weight!

joespanova
Mar 22nd, 05, 4:41 PM
It's all relative........are we talking Chevelles? Street cars ? Race cars? These new Smileys stink.............

Harold Sutton
Mar 22nd, 05, 5:03 PM
That is what my old Peterson power-speed calculator says it should be, with no slippage, dead on 8100 RPM so i guess your clutch has zero slippage. I think the 78-80 Malibus make very good race cars.

Greybeard
Mar 22nd, 05, 7:26 PM
Mike Lewis had me covered, I could only get 7.60s @ 201 outta my 301 running "pop". However, with an 88" wheelbase, I probably beat him in heartrate through the traps!

hoffbug
Mar 22nd, 05, 7:41 PM
running "pop".

POP.....Hydrazine and Nitromethane ? http://www.usfamily.net/web/hoffbug/obsessed.gif

You have to e-mail me or post a picture of that thing sometime !

383Malibu
Mar 23rd, 05, 6:56 AM
That is what my old Peterson power-speed calculator says it should be, with no slippage, dead on 8100 RPM so i guess your clutch has zero slippage. I think the 78-80 Malibus make very good race cars.Thank goodness for data loggers! We run an adjustable clutch and using the data logger to compare engine rpm and driveshaft rpm we have added just enough centrifugal weight to minimize high rpm slippage (actually about 5 rpm difference at the line). I agree regarding the 78-82 Malibus... we see more and more of them at the track.

chevl71
Mar 23rd, 05, 10:20 AM
And it this corner, weighing in at 3550 pounds. Runs 13.11 @ 104. I have some tweaks to do, should help. A few weight reductions planned.
355 c.i. 9.5:1
Performer RPM Heads
1.6:1 roller rockers
Lunati Bracket Master cam
750 carb
Performer RPM Air Gap manifold (soon to be installed)
MSD Pro-Billet distributor, Blaster coil, Digital 6 controller
NOS Big Shot soon to be hooked up

mike1985
Mar 23rd, 05, 10:54 AM
i hate to give the bad news, but the performer rpm air gap is a dual plane and the highest recommended shot to use on a dual plane is 175. The big shot kit starts at 200. Some have done it, but the intake and nitrous MFG don't recommend it.

Mike

chevl71
Mar 23rd, 05, 2:49 PM
Yeah, I know they aren't supposed to go together. I'm machining the divider and using an extra spacer. Lots of discussion on this already. I'm not going max spray with it.

HOTRODSRJ
Mar 23rd, 05, 5:20 PM
Small block...big block...who cares!

http://lingenfeltercom.siteprotect.net/images/LPEComwb.jpg

Nice daily driver....2005 C6 Corvette - Coupe, Victory Red exterior with Cashmere interior
6 Speed manual transmission
Z51 Option package: Engine oil cooler, transmission oil cooler
Z51 springs, sway bars and shocks with Navigation system


Lingenfelter package includes:
725 horsepower 427 CID (LS2..qualifies as a small block) Lingenfelter intercooled twin turbo package

Quarter mile time on street tires and pump gas: 9.41 ON STREET TIRES! @ 156.77MPH. top speed...orfice puckering territory...234mph. Whoooooooohooooooo! until the insurance bill shows?

Nickel333
Mar 23rd, 05, 6:35 PM
Small block...big block...who cares!



Nice daily driver....2005 C6 Corvette - Coupe, Victory Red exterior with Cashmere interior
6 Speed manual transmission
Z51 Option package: Engine oil cooler, transmission oil cooler
Z51 springs, sway bars and shocks with Navigation system


Lingenfelter package includes:
725 horsepower 427 CID (LS2..qualifies as a small block) Lingenfelter intercooled twin turbo package

Quarter mile time on street tires and pump gas: 9.41 ON STREET TIRES! @ 156.77MPH. top speed...orfice puckering territory...234mph. Whoooooooohooooooo! until the insurance bill shows?


HOLY **** BALLS BATMAN....thats a bad ass machine, 9 seconds out door from lingenfelter huh. Its kind of sad really, any idiot with a TON of cash can have somthing that can kick my {and most street cars ive run across} ass from here to Idaho. Whats that thing cost? over $125,000?

Motor Martyr
Mar 23rd, 05, 7:19 PM
That Lingenfelter car is pretty quick, but when it comes to fast Real Street cars my Friend Adam has it beat.

Street Legal, registered and NJ inspection sticker, DOT tires, mufflers and street driven alot, All Steel (3500lbs) . Steve Schmidt 565" BBC making 1100HP and NICK YOU'LL LOVE THIS PART: a 4 Speed!

A blistering Mid 8 second ET on the Motor only, shifting 4 gears! and Annihilating the tires.

http://www.iwantthatmusclecar.com/images/69z12.jpg

http://www.iwantthatmusclecar.com/images/565b28.jpg

If anyone wants the same car, he builds them!

Nickel333
Mar 23rd, 05, 7:34 PM
Well hot damn brian.....that is awfully cool. Im going to take a stab at this and guess that 4 speed inst the factory M-21 eh??? Pump Gas???

HOTRODSRJ
Mar 23rd, 05, 8:11 PM
Motor Martyr, pretty cool ride for sure.....and it's a 69 my favorite. Obviously made for the track....so give me a pair of slicks and some suspension tuning FOR THE TRACK and I'll turn the air on and still run mid 8s.

A 2004 Lingenfelter like above in Arizona runs 8.55s with those exacting changes......173mph! (his stock tires will only get him 9.15)

Besides....we don't need no stink'in big block to whip ars!

I love that Camaro's stance tho!

Motor Martyr
Mar 23rd, 05, 8:19 PM
Nick,
no pump gas, hehe. Jerico trans, but its a clutch type, not clutchless.

Steve,
yes definetly a drag car, but it seriously was street driven on cruises. Not a cut up car by any means though, he kept the stock interior with exception to the back seat. The majority of the stock features were kept! Exceptionally nice, extremely clean car!

joespanova
Mar 23rd, 05, 8:52 PM
HOLY **** BALLS BATMAN....thats a bad ass machine, 9 seconds out door from lingenfelter huh. Its kind of sad really, any idiot with a TON of cash can have somthing that can kick my {and most street cars ive run across} ass from here to Idaho. Whats that thing cost? over $125,000?
Well said!...........

joespanova
Mar 23rd, 05, 9:01 PM
That Lingenfelter car is pretty quick, but when it comes to fast Real Street cars my Friend Adam has it beat.

Street Legal, registered and NJ inspection sticker, DOT tires, mufflers and street driven alot, All Steel (3500lbs) . Steve Schmidt 565" BBC making 1100HP and NICK YOU'LL LOVE THIS PART: a 4 Speed!

A blistering Mid 8 second ET on the Motor only, shifting 4 gears! and Annihilating the tires.

http://www.iwantthatmusclecar.com/images/69z12.jpg

http://www.iwantthatmusclecar.com/images/565b28.jpg

If anyone wants the same car, he builds them!
I've got a friend who has a street legal pro stocker too...........why dont we just post pics of all the sheee/ot we've ever seen and forget the original topic of this post.........

dylanjans
Mar 23rd, 05, 9:31 PM
easy.....

Motor Martyr
Mar 23rd, 05, 9:55 PM
Ahh Another Guy looking to beat me up a little and learn something today. Pretty good try, but not good enough!!!

Pictures are cool, i think we should post pictures of all the nice street legal, street driven and drag raced cars we've seen!!

Here's a small block car that's gone 7.80's ....hows that for staying on topic ;)

http://www.yellowbullet.com/stanton_nmca_1.jpg

How you like me now?

Motor Martyr
Mar 23rd, 05, 9:57 PM
thanks for posting the pictures of my friends car again, I appreciate it as its an awsome car and deserves being posted at least twice, if not more :D :D

BigRed-L72
Mar 23rd, 05, 10:30 PM
That Lingenfelter car is pretty quick, but when it comes to fast Real Street cars my Friend Adam has it beat.

Street Legal, registered and NJ inspection sticker, DOT tires, mufflers and street driven alot, All Steel (3500lbs)
REALLY !!?? That heavy HUH!?:eek:
Who would`a thought?!...must be the "worlds 2nd heaviest" 69 Camaro :D ;)

Motor Martyr
Mar 23rd, 05, 11:20 PM
thats with the driver there slick, not the 3750lbs weighed on a concrete scale car your buddy races with an aluminum radiator, aluminum heads and glass hood. Outfitted 300lbs of sterio equipment in the trunk.

that makes it about 3350lbs + driver. :D I see by your comments your signing up for lessons as well. The "make a comment, learn something new" School of Pump Gas Drag Racing and Race cars that actually work.

mike1985
Mar 24th, 05, 8:08 AM
when you 2 get done peeing on each other, we can go on with the post.

Does anybody else drive their 10 sec car ALL year ..i do, just change the rear tires and mine does a pretty good job.

My buddy with the stock (motor and ex.) LT-1 94 bird ran 11.003 @ 120 with a 200 shot on his 112 miler car, he drives this thing everyday year round 50 miles a day to work too.

These things cost alot, you have to drive them.

383Malibu
Mar 24th, 05, 10:43 AM
...Does anybody else drive their 10 sec car ALL year ...We drove our Malibu on the street regularly when it was running 10.70s. But once we put the Liberty in it became a drag only car. (The clutchless tranny is too much of a pain on the street. :clonk: )

mike1985
Mar 24th, 05, 10:52 AM
by regularly you mean 365 days a year, right? through the winters, snow included ? I see a rainy day as a free car wash.

Harold Sutton
Mar 24th, 05, 11:19 AM
Why would anybody want to drive a racecar in the snow? Almost everywhere they throw down SALT when it snows and that will eat up your car. Up north almost everybody has a winter car so they don't ruin their nice one. To not do so would be, just plain retarded.

JOHN WILSON
Mar 24th, 05, 11:36 AM
We drove our Malibu on the street regularly when it was running 10.70s. But once we put the Liberty in it became a drag only car. (The clutchless tranny is too much of a pain on the street. :clonk: )


Hey Roger, has your Malibu ever been run with an auto? Just curious what kind of gains would be seen going from the typical auto tranny/8" converter combo to something like what you're running.

Thanks.

Oh yeah, what's a ballpark price for a setup like the liberty?

BigRed-L72
Mar 24th, 05, 11:39 AM
thats with the driver there slick, not the 3750lbs weighed on a concrete scale car your buddy races with an aluminum radiator, aluminum heads and glass hood. Outfitted 300lbs of sterio equipment in the trunk.

that makes it about 3350lbs + driver. :D I see by your comments your signing up for lessons as well. The "make a comment, learn something new" School of Pump Gas Drag Racing and Race cars that actually work.

It was meant as a friendly little comment hence the "wink" !!!
I actually expected you to get a bit of a laugh out of it, you know, just a little bantering that`s all, nothing more.

You`re so inclined to run with it the way you do, it`s no surprize you responded this way.

You were owned on the weight issue way back, no need to rehash that deal, you lost, period.

The scales at Moroso are accurate, they host sanctioned races there including numerous road course events for everything from vintage to F-1 Ferrari`s.
Motorcycle racing too besides drag racing.
The world series of bracket racing is held there too, the Sunoco 5 Day I`m sure the calibration is keep up.


Signing up for lessons..school of pump gas??? ...

mike1985
Mar 24th, 05, 12:11 PM
i guess i forgot about the rust issue. I'm not retarded though. I just rinse it off at the car wash once a week. I can understand with the steel bodies though.

383Malibu
Mar 24th, 05, 1:07 PM
by regularly you mean 365 days a year, right? through the winters, snow included ? I see a rainy day as a free car wash.Mike - Give me a break. :) That Malibu hasn't seen a winter day in 10 years and not too many before that. It's 25 years old and has 67K original miles. "Regularly" means summertime, cruise ins and occasionally to work. BTW, the rain isn't an issue (as I noted earlier, it's street legal, the wipers work).

383Malibu
Mar 24th, 05, 1:17 PM
Hey Roger, has your Malibu ever been run with an auto? Just curious what kind of gains would be seen going from the typical auto tranny/8" converter combo to something like what you're running.

Thanks.

Oh yeah, what's a ballpark price for a setup like the liberty?John - it came from the factory with a v6 and a metric 200. When the first 350 went it, it had a Muncie 4 speed behind it and we never looked back.

What I can tell you is that going from a pro-shifted Richmond to the clutchless Liberty picked up about .35 seconds and 3.5 mph. That was a big chuck of getting us from the 10.70s to the 10.0s.

The prices have gone up (surprise) but, IIRC, we paid about $6500 for the tranny and linkage. Then you need an adjustable clutch and some minimum data logging capability to adjust the clutch.

BigRed-L72
Mar 24th, 05, 2:13 PM
when you 2 get done peeing on each other, we can go on with the post..

uncalled for mike1985..1 post in jest??!!:rolleyes:... gimme` a break.. 10 post`s well then maybe...:D

Back to the subject at hand...

While not even near the top by a long shot:

78 Camaro 406, driven year round, ran 11.51 @ 117 short shifting.
Subsequent passes showed a possible 11.39 shifting at 6000 rpm. (long story)
3.23 gears.

joespanova
Mar 24th, 05, 4:38 PM
Ahh Another Guy looking to beat me up a little and learn something today. Pretty good try, but not good enough!!!

Pictures are cool, i think we should post pictures of all the nice street legal, street driven and drag raced cars we've seen!!

Here's a small block car that's gone 7.80's ....hows that for staying on topic ;)

http://www.yellowbullet.com/stanton_nmca_1.jpg

How you like me now?
Ok ,you win....... they're cool...........but how quick is yours? I hope its at least in the 10's!Oh no! nevermind its only an eleven second car!ooooops

Nickel333
Mar 24th, 05, 5:35 PM
.......whats wrong with 11's?? Hell i say if somone can take a N/A motor at less than 400 inches make it run 11's with bolt on parts,and pump gas your doing pretty damn good.....

Motor Martyr
Mar 24th, 05, 5:44 PM
thanks Nick!

Joes Nova, how fast was your car when you were Mine or Nick's Age??? Pump Gas??? Small block?? :D

Big Red,
As far as your concerned its 3760lbs. LOL, i really dont expect clear answers from a guy who doesnt even post under his real name, make his real name known, or post any pictures or timeslips. Instead you post ETs with nothing backing them up

Tell you what, i'll believe you when you put that car and the driver over the scale and take a picture of the scales read out.

I'll do it for my car, i have no problem backing up the stuff i post.

BTW, dont wink at me.

Motor Martyr
Mar 24th, 05, 5:48 PM
Joe, thanks Again for posting more pictures of the nice cars i like. the owners appreciate the hits, and like it when people check out their nice cars.

Where's the Pictures of your Nova? Better be a real nice car after all the BS you give me.

TJC
Mar 24th, 05, 5:53 PM
You don't have any older brothers, do you Brian. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Motor Martyr
Mar 24th, 05, 6:10 PM
Yes i do have an older brother, and i dont take any sh!t from him. Believe me when i say he's glad i'm around to fix his car for him.

OK OK, i'll just get back to posting pictures!!

Hows this one:

that crazy kid from Jersey's latest project:

http://hobbystage.net/camaro/camaroracer/1111469178-006081.jpg

blumont
Mar 24th, 05, 6:11 PM
Well, I have no time slip to show, Butttt, when I get my problems sorted out with this new 406 I am going to the track at least once for sure this year. Lets see, its only been since ummm 1970 since I ran a car down the 1/4 mile.
I remember it like it was yestersday. Ya right. With a little luck and the good lord willing I will make it to the end of the track with a biggg grin.
If everything goes well I am going to put out a challenge to another chevelle in town here. A blue 66, big block I think. He goes by the name of "66 283"
How about it Ryan, you up for a little grudge match?

Motor Martyr
Mar 24th, 05, 6:12 PM
Dinner time!

Motor Martyr
Mar 24th, 05, 6:14 PM
Well, I have no time slip to show, Butttt, when I get my problems sorted out with this new 406 I am going to the track at least once for sure this year. Lets see, its only been since ummm 1970 since I ran a car down the 1/4 mile.
I remember it like it was yestersday. Ya right. With a little luck and the good lord willing I will make it to the end of the track with a biggg grin.
If everything goes well I am going to put out a challenge to another chevelle in town here. A blue 66, big block I think. He goes by the name of "66 283"
How about it Ryan, you up for a little grudge match?


thats a Nice looking Car Jerry! My friend Jon has a 64' thats Orange, the 64 and 65's are very cool and distinct!

joespanova
Mar 24th, 05, 6:16 PM
Joe, thanks Again for posting more pictures of the nice cars i like. the owners appreciate the hits, and like it when people check out their nice cars.

Where's the Pictures of your Nova? Better be a real nice car after all the BS you give me.
Brian.....Ijust like rattling your chain a little! Actually I get a kick out of your responses.........I'm WITH YOU on the caliber of cars you like.....yours ,Eds and everybody elses.....they're all my kind of rides........you are way beyond your years in attitude!(take that as a compliment). I'll find a video of my sheee/ot and post it........but I doubt youll be impressed........

Motor Martyr
Mar 24th, 05, 6:19 PM
thanks Joe, I appreciate the compliment! I'm glad someone likes my posts!

now, your with me when i say i'm not far off in the assumption that people with rattle my chain to learn something :D :D

joespanova
Mar 24th, 05, 6:25 PM
thanks Joe, I appreciate the compliment! I'm glad someone likes my posts!

now, your with me when i say i'm not far off in the assumption that people with rattle my chain to learn something :D :D
Perhaps

BigRed-L72
Mar 24th, 05, 6:43 PM
FWIW... MotorM....I for one have never needed to be taught anything from you ever sorry to burst your little imaginary bubble.
Go ahead... show me where I`ve ever asked you for advice on anything, anywhere, at anytime.... it`s actually been the other way around for some years now Jr!! read the posts :D

Motor Martyr
Mar 24th, 05, 6:50 PM
Lets see some pictures of all those fast cars you have Red!

Motor Martyr
Mar 24th, 05, 6:51 PM
Perhaps

thanks! :D

joespanova
Mar 24th, 05, 8:40 PM
thanks! :D

Brian , here ya' go............







http://www.chevelles.com/video/joe1.WMV

Motor Martyr
Mar 24th, 05, 8:45 PM
Nice, thats a fast 4 speed car!!

Did you tighten up the front suspension alot?

oregonchevelle
Mar 24th, 05, 9:02 PM
14.34 @ 98.68mph - 355ci. with 3.08s and a 4 speed. Gotta get new rear gears and hopefully that will put me into the 13s! Not the fastest but it's still a blast!!!!!

joespanova
Mar 24th, 05, 9:05 PM
Nice, thats a fast 4 speed car!!

Did you tighten up the front suspension alot?Thanks.....
The only change I made was to change from the crap Comp. Engineering shocks to Afcos(expensive)......req'd lots of work to the stock lower arms....BTW....its a Nash 5 speed

BigRed-L72
Mar 24th, 05, 11:24 PM
Lets see some pictures of all those fast cars you have Red!
Trust me, they all look nicer and are all faster than yours little guy :D every single one of `em :D

BTW...you`re not fooling anyone here that`s been around for awhile.

Maybe some newbies will think you have all the answers but the rest of us know otherwise..You mimick and parrot...
Everything you`ve done to your car is an exact replicate of someone else`s setup and thinking and we all know who that is!!..KIND of SCARY if you ask me :eek:

chevydog66
Mar 25th, 05, 12:30 AM
I said Small block............

curt70
Mar 25th, 05, 12:32 AM
my old ride 67 300hp w/202 FI heads Tarantula intake headers 650 holley
did 12.98 dont have my 70 on the road yet

Motor Martyr
Mar 25th, 05, 12:37 AM
Yes Red, i think we all know that i asked you a carburetor question two years ago. Thats great. Now i get better advice from people who actually race.

Then Feel Free to post pictures of all the really nice cars you work on. Then we'll compair them to the one i own, built, and fabricate parts and a roll bar for.

Coming from a guy who hides behind his screen name, nevering posting a real name, pictures of the car, or actual ET slips dont think i'm real worried about your opinion. Your opinion and a dollar will buy me a cup of coffee.



I'm proud to have built my car in a similar style to Ed's, what better car to take design tips from? What makes me smart and not a "parrot" is the fact that i've analysed every aspect of the project and chose to do it in a similar fashion becuase it Works very well!!
Even better i built, fabricated and restored this car with my own two hands. I stepped up as a student to the best, and the results are fantastic.



I always find it interesting that myself and my car impress some of the best in the industry, and many of which seek my help assistance and fabricating ability.......however i've yet to earn the approval of a KeyBoard Jockey from Florida.

kboorman
Mar 25th, 05, 1:18 AM
I'll bet that if "chevydog" wanted to read this crap, he could have gone to dragraceresults.com (or one of the other sites that's been cluttered by this kind of trash) instead of a decent forum like this one. This has got to be the oldest, most useless BS I have ever seen on the internet. Quit wasting this guy's time.
BTW 'dog, sorry I can't post about a fast small block car, you could time mine with a calendar, but I'm working on that...

Motor Martyr
Mar 25th, 05, 1:25 AM
LOL,
If you think you're tired of it, try defending your opinion every time you post.

BigRed-L72
Mar 25th, 05, 1:26 AM
Problem is Brian; You`re self promoting, condescending and arrogant, bordering on obnoxious!
I`ve complimented you on occasion and you know that, but you just have this `tude about you and it`s a shame. Live and learn...I guess

Motor Martyr
Mar 25th, 05, 1:32 AM
Where's the pictures Red. Stop insulting me from behind your keyboard and post some pictures of timeslips and all those nice cars you work on.

kboorman
Mar 25th, 05, 1:40 AM
Brian, I am not judging your ability or your opinion, but have you ever wondered why you have to defend them so often? You may have good advice to offer, but it's all in the delivery. If you try to come across like you know better than everyone else here, how can you expect it to be well received? Lighten up Francis! ;)

Motor Martyr
Mar 25th, 05, 1:51 AM
Kboor, email me when you have a change. Nothing bad, but good rather.

kboorman
Mar 25th, 05, 7:14 AM
Brian - check your PM's