Was there ever a 67ss with a 136 vin canadian made. a fellow was telling me that Frank of GM Ohsawa documented his 67 as a true ss with a 136 vin. I thought that all where 138 ??? Don Lightfoot what do you think. Thanks Terry

Sorry Terry, I can't help you with that one. There are some people on here more in tune with 67 cars than myself. I'm sure Dale or Cam can help if they jump in here. Good luck.

I'm no expert on this but, I have done a pretty fair amount of layman research on this and from I have read/seen, the 136 are SB 8 cyl Malibu's, whether from the US or Canada. 138 is the ticket for a BB SS.

Just my humble opinion though ...

In those years, there were some small block Malibu SS' produced in Canada, hopefully someone will jump in to fill in the blanks. All SS' of that vintage in the US were big blocks.

I was just researching VINs tonight and here is what I found. Good luck.

http://hem.passagen.se/carlzon/chevelle/codepage/65-71VINbreakdown.htm

Not in the sense that we usually think of a "true" SS Chevelle. There were 67 Malibu SS Chevelles built in Canada with small blocks and were called a Super Sport. Here's a GM of Canada spec sheet 'authenticating' such a Chevelle. Note it's a 13617 Malibu Sport Coupe with a 283 yet designated a Super Sport.

http://www.chevellestuff.com/67stuff/gallery/supersport/mel_anderson05.jpg

For U.S.-built and U.S.-sold 67 Chevelles however, yes the 13817/67 series/model is the only true Super Sport. In the U.S., the Super Sport (or SS396) was a separate series from the Malibu and not an option on the Malibu. Base engine for the Super Sport series was the 396/325 so there are no small block U.S.-built 67 SS Chevelles.

FWIW, I've seen a Canadian-built 66 Malibu SS with a 250-L6 as well.

So a "SS" Canada build is not a "true" SS for those looking for one.

Thanks Dale, I'm not as lost as I thought.

Originally posted by dennis68:
So a "SS" Canada build is not a "true" SS for those looking for one. That statement is confusing, or did you just forget the question mark? :confused:

A Canada built "SS" is a "true" Canada built "SS"

A USA built "SS" is a "true" USA built "SS"

I guess I meant is that to someone looking to "pay" for a true SS car, a Canadian built SS is not what they are looking for but could be passed off as one.

I guess I meant is that to someone looking to "pay" for a true SS car, a Canadian built SS is not what they are looking for but could be passed off as one. generally people that say they are loking for a SuperSport, are looking for the US, 396-equipped version, and NOT the "Malibu SS".

The Canadian Malibu SS is like a US Malibu with some nice options (bucket seats and console, etc). Its unique, but really should not be worth much more than the comparible Malibu...

a fellow was telling me that Frank of GM Ohsawa documented his 67 as a true ss with a 136 vin. Technically, its a true "Malibu SS", and not a "Supersport" (actual model name).

In '66 and '67 Canada built some Malibu SS cars. These were Malibu models with an SS option package. In the US, the '66-'68 "SS" was a separate Super Sport MODEL (not an option package but a separate model indentifiable by the VIN).

I don't know of any '66-'67 Canadian SS cars that are big-blocks. I don't know if any were built.

Strange as it may seem, there does exist at least one Canadian-built '66 SS-230. Yes, a '66 six-cylinder SS. It was built for the Nordic market. It was offered on eBay a few years ago. They showed the GM of Canada documents and it certainly looked legtimate/genuine to me.

Originally posted by 1966_L78:
The Canadian Malibu SS is like a US Malibu with some nice options (bucket seats and console, etc). Its unique, but really should not be worth much more than the comparible Malibu...As a fairly scarce oddity, I would think that a Canadian SS would be worth a significant premium over a plain Malibu in similar condition. However, a big-block SS is almost always worth more than a small-block SS, and since it appears that most or all of the Canadian SS cars are small-blocks, the US big-block SuperSports are generally worth more than the Canadian Malibu SS cars.

My 67 Canadian built car is a Malibu and has a 136 VIN. no. I have the GM Canada records to show this!!I always thought all SS cars were 138.
Gerry...

Hey guys in late 1966 some 67 malibu's were built as malibu SS with 136 vin's. I have one. They also had some odd options, vinyl moldings...no vinyl top, rocker trim with w/w chrome, etc.These cars from what i have seen came late in 66 only, and in Jan. 67 they started building US style ss cars. Some real oddities came out of Oshawa.

It seems that this is compairable to 1965. Both were produced in that year. The SS396 and the Malibu SS.

Chris.

As a Canadian whose experience with 1966 and 1967 Chevelle SS cars dates back to when these cars were new, I have never seen one that did not originally have a 396. At least here on the prairies, our Chevelle SS cars had 396 engines. Maybe some non-396 cars somewhere came with SS badging, but I have never seen one. I also never saw a Malibu that came with a 396.

As Far as I am concerned These canadian SS cars are true SS cars. They are made by the factory. not a clone or fake. Without a 396 they may not be worth as much. I think it would be fun to pruve some braggert wrong when he thinks he knows so much

Originally posted by Chris R:
It seems that this is compairable to 1965. Both were produced in that year. The SS396 and the Malibu SS.
Chris. I believe the Z16 was still a Malibu SS and not a SS396. The Malibu SS in 65 also carried a 138xx VIN but was also available with a 6-cyl as a 137xx VIN; 1964 was the same but with 457xx and 458xx VINs on Malibu SS models.

The point is that what we generally consider a true Super Sport (SS396) is a US-built 66/67/68 Chevelle as opposed to a 'clone' or 'tribute' 66-68 Malibu with SS options/trim added by the owner. Our northern neighbors were Malibu SS cars that were identified as Super Sports. Much the same as when we hear/read COPO, we think 427 Chevelles and Camaros when in fact a police car, fleet taxi, or special order paint is a COPO car. All a matter of interpretation. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

This car was at Barrett-Jackson. It is a Canadian 136 Malibu SS with a 396 360HP engine. The seller listed it as a SS396 (probably figured US buyers wouldn't know what it was). It had GM of Canada documentation and the listed selling price on B-Js website is $62,640, I think this includes the 8% buyer fee. This was a very nice car.

It is my understanding that the Malibu SS was an interior and exterior package but was available with any engine including the 396. This is a 1966; not sure if the 67s were the same. I saw a smallblock 66 Malibu SS at B-J last year. Cool cars.

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/events/scottsdale/vehicles/cardetail_list.asp?id=178170

Ok guys here is the deal ....... Yes CDN Malibu SS vin136 cars were Malibus with the A51 bucket seat option and any engine ..... yes in 66 you could get the BB only the L34 360hp 499 made these cars did not have the US SuperSport hood , grille etc etc ..... I have one of these with GM doc's
BTW as others said there were tons of 66 Malibu SS's here with small blocks with 4 speeds 283's and 327's ..nice little street cars in there day and of course the 499 of coupes and convertable with the L34 BB ..... lots like me when these cars were new blacked out the grille and bot the US hoods and emblems

In early 67 the same format was in place so it is possible to have a 67 Malibu SS 396 with a 136 vin ....later in 67 the Canada / US trade act changed and the duty to import US built cars to canada and CDN built cars to the US was reduced dramaticlly then the SuperSport 138vin cars could be in Canada for all markets not many of these 136 67's but all 66 mailibu SS's were 136 cars ..... lots of odd difference in 66 and early 67 and many regular options available on US built Chevelles were not avaialable on 66 and early 67 cars in canada...guage pkg, etc etc L78 etcetc if you really want to know more about the diff's e-mail off line .....Mechanically all Malibu SS cars are identical to US BB Supersports .big fuel line 12 bolt etcetc also CDN SS car in 66 had there own rear panel controversy could be Black , Argent , no SS396 emblem on rear same emblem as regular malibu with Chevelle on trunk lid and little known option of a Brushed aluminum rear panel apparantly was cheaper to add than painting each SS black or argent dependant on body color.....so have only seen that option on small block Malibu SS cars

FWIW this weekend on BJ a very nice low mile 66 Malibu SS L34 went for 64K but it was not correct someone had redone it with US SuperSport hood , grille , tailpipes etcetc ...... nice car but not correct for cdn build
Bill

CDN SS,

Interesting report. Do you know how many Canadian-built '67 big-block Chevelles were made ?
Someone out there with a '67 Canadan-built 396 Chevelle probably has that information on their GM of Canada report.

All of the documents that I've reviewed imply that during the 1967 model year, no US-built Chevelles were exported to Canada, and no Canadian-built Chevelles were exported to the US.
Do you have any documentation to the contrary ?

Re 67 BB Chevelles if you mean Malibu SS ones ....no but your correct that info would be on the GM Canada documentation ......but not many ....... the later cdn built 67 138 SuperSport SS396 there were lots again that info would be on a GM Canada doc if you sent in the vin and paid the fee. I know of someone who has a 138 cdn SS 396 I can ask him for his GM doc to see how many built .......actually one of our members here in Calif. has a 138 67 396 with GM docs he would know.Trying to recall his forum name !

Re Import / export .... no I have no documentation on that just a conversation in general with GM Canada Historical guys ...... all GTO's / 442's before 68 were imported to Canada under the import duty guidelines and your correct pbly no need to export CDN built Chevelles to US as in those days many plants built many different models ....

I have a doc from GM which is a copy of weekly shippping doc to dealers shows a couple of export Chevelles in 66 ...pbly L78's

Total Canadian production 67 chevelle 19,245
Total Canadian production body style 13817, 876
This info straight from my GM Documents.

:hurray: Hey guy's
i actually have a 69 chevelle ss 396 made in oshawa with a 136791327xxx
options are from gm docs and buildsheet
a51
b22
b79
d55
j50
j52
l34
m40
n40
pl5
u63
w84
zkq
z25
z49

now i know this is obviously rare to have one of these, anybody know how rare?

ross:confused:

:hurray: Hey guy's
i actually have a 69 chevelle ss 396 made in oshawa with a 136791327xxx
options are from gm docs and buildsheet ....

...now i know this is obviously rare to have one of these, anybody know how rare?

ross:confused:

Welcome, Ross!

Oshawa built 903 Z25-optioned Chevelles (SS396) for 1969.


As for the number of early '67 Sports Option (i.e. 136-series Malibu SS) with the optional 396, my source says 320 built. That's pretty rare. I don't know how many small block & six cylinder Malibu SS models went out the door as '67 models.

I have some old GM Canada price lists, plus a 1967 (Canadian) Chevelle Databook. In it the 138-series SS396 is listed as being an imported model. That was at the time that the 136-series Malibu SS (and 135-series) was offered with anything from a 230 through a 396. The A51 Malibu SS came with buckets, console, P01 wheelcovers (or P02 wire wheel covers optionally), plus wheel opening moldings and rocker moldings the same as the SS396. You got "Malibu SS" nameplates on the quarters and an SS horn button. They still had the woodgrained dash strip and Malibu glove box nameplate.

There was a mid-year revision, with the dropping of the A51 Sports Option, which was mainly about bucket seats. Now you could get a Malibu with A51 bucket seats and still otherwise have a Malibu. The D55 console was now up to you to order if you wanted it, and wheel covers weren't mandatory. There also were no more 136-series Chevelles with 396 power at that point, for that they now began making the 138-series SS396.

The same situation was happening with the Beaumonts, where a 735 or 736-series Beaumont could become a Sport Deluxe by ordering the A51 'Sports Option'. Like the Chevelle, come mid-year the 738-series Sport Deluxe was the only way to now get 396 power under the hood (which now came with the big block power bulges).


Talk about reviving an old thread...