: Delta Tech H-4 Headlamps
Aaron Mar 30th, 04, 10:20 PM I recently bought a set of these from OPG to improve my lighting. Does anyone have these installed in there Chevelle? What did you guys use to punch out the rings so they would seat properly? Will these greatly improve the lighting as much as the catalog states? tongue.gif
Aaron Mar 31st, 04, 7:50 PM No takers?? Must be to new of a product?
72SSAbody Apr 1st, 04, 9:59 AM Aaron,
Search or post in the Electrical forum graemlins/thumbsup.gif
You'll find some discussion in there.
Joe
lucky3 Apr 1st, 04, 11:25 AM I have a set but a different brand and they work great and i didn't have to do anything different they fit perfect.
Hot66ss Apr 1st, 04, 12:17 PM I have Hella H4's in mine, work awesome
Aaron Apr 3rd, 04, 9:56 PM I had to cut a larger hole in the headlight bucket. No problem,but as I began to install them the problem I'm having is the back of the light will not seat in the bucket on the car, its like it needs a larger hole. Anyone have this this problem? What would you suggest to make the hole in the bucket bigger?
Aaron Apr 5th, 04, 10:27 PM Does anyone have any suggustions on cutting larger holes in the core support? What tools and any tips?
Kx69 Apr 5th, 04, 10:44 PM That’s crap. I sent mine back after waiting over a month for them. I think you can try to carefully cut the plastic cup off the light housing, instead of hacking your radiator support. I think the reason I didn’t do that is because the bulb clips were secured to the cup and I didn’t feel like re-engineering the hole dam thing. A set of good halogens and rewire/relay’s is an amazing difference.
Aaron Apr 5th, 04, 10:50 PM Are you saying that the bulb is attached to the rubber boot?
Kx69 Apr 5th, 04, 11:02 PM If they are the same as the ones that I had, the rubber boot came off and was attached to a cup that was formed into the light assembly. A spring wire clip held the bulbs to the plastic cup on the light assembly. The plastic cups formed to the back of the light assembly was the problem for me. They would not fit through the odd shaped holes in the radiator support. I was just suggesting modifying the light assembly instead of your radiator support.
Aaron Apr 5th, 04, 11:16 PM After looking at mine I see what you mean. Real big hassle. How would you reengineer it? I'm probably going to send my back also. Do you suggust a certain brand of halogens? graemlins/sad.gif
Coppertop Apr 5th, 04, 11:48 PM You should have read my article first ;)
The Truth about upgrades (http://home.neb.rr.com/postmodern/hd/index.htm)
Kx69 Apr 6th, 04, 10:24 AM I have the wagners
JOEL_TX Apr 6th, 04, 11:39 AM Good article Coppertop.Very informative!
Aaron Apr 6th, 04, 8:39 PM Coppertone,nice article. Wish I could of read it before. What do you think about the "cool blue" line from Wagner or Syvalnia.
Coppertop Apr 6th, 04, 10:15 PM Aaron,
I've heard of many, "cool blue" "Silver Stars", etc. I simply haven't found any info on them yet. There's no real issue with using aftermarket lamps, as long as (1), they "fit", and (2) -most important- they don't draw more electrical current then the factory units did. If they do, you MUST use relays/fuses/wiring to prevent damage to the original lighting harness in your car.
I bought a set from this guy. Not these exact ones, but a set of 5.25" for the low and a set for the high beams. Paid $126 for lights and S&H.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2471411033&category=33710&sspagename=WDVW
The modifications are as followed:
For the low beams, I drilled a hole in the light bucket and the radiator support. This was only needed to include installing the small bulb known as the day time running light. I wired this bulb in to the parking light harness.
For the high beams, I did not want to use the day time bulb, so I removed the small bulb from the housing and plugged it. I did have to modify the light bucket so that all three alignment tangs would seat. This was very simple to do. I used my dremmel tool with a thin cutting wheel. I made two cuts in to the edge of the bucket about 1/4" apart. I then taped the lip inward. It looks exactly as the factory cut, just about 3/8" away from the original. This cut is only done to align one of the three tangs, the other two fit fine.
I did install the madd electrical relays last summer to help the original T3's, smile.gif I would recommend the relays to everyone, even if you don't upgrade to better lighting.
I also installed the led panel lights in the tail / brake lights. Got them from tecnostalgia.
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Now people can see me stopping, and I can see much further in front of me! graemlins/hurray.gif
kamino69er Apr 7th, 04, 1:22 AM Originally posted by tas:
I bought a set from this guy. Not these exact ones, but a set of 5.25" for the low and a set for the high beams. Paid $126 for lights and S&H.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2471411033&category=33710&sspagename=WDVW
I installed them too. It didn't take very long to do the modification. For the 69 Chevelle/el camino, there are no modification needed on the radiator support. Just the headlight buckets needed some holes for the city lights. I changed all my bulbs for tail lights,park lights and brake lights to LEDs as well. Changed all the gauges to AutoMeter Phantom series. Since I did a lot of electrical changes, I changed my wiring harness to Painless GM Muscle car kit. I will update you guys once my car is put back together.
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from what i hear installing relays is highly advisable.. old wires oxidize and gain more resistance over time. (has anyone ever cut open an oxidized battery cable??) the new halogens may run on 12 volts but most ive seen draw more current to light them.. thus heating the wires in most cases. anyone putting in halogens in their older car without installing a relay should check the wires and make sure they dont get hot.. i may not be as experienced as some other car crafters but i almost burned my car with some bad wiring before by overloading a wire and the other time by not using a fuse.. these 2 times showed me not to cut corners.. if anyone looks at a newer car that uses halogen lights from the factory IT USES HEADLIGHT RELAYS... they are there for a reason and in my opinion its cheap insurance against the car burning up from bad wiring. what i will do with my chevelle is put in relays and use the original headlight wires for the relay triggers ......Rad..
Aaron Apr 7th, 04, 1:20 PM What blub would you guys suggust: Blue Blubs, White Blubs, Xenon Blubs. Not sure what the difference is. What about the LED taillights, backup lights, and parking lights? Would you install a relays for the rear harness as well? What I'm after is to make the whole outer lighting system brighter.
Aaron,
I suggest that you do what I did.
On the front, install relays on the front, if thats not enough, install aftermarket lights.
On the rear, install the technostalgia tail lights, no relays needed, they do not draw enough current to require any additional power. But you will need to upgrade the turn signal flasher to a electronic type. The old thermal style will not work with the upgrade tail lights. The new tail lights don't draw enough current to trip the thermal flasher. I picked up an electronic flasher at the local parts store.
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