I need to put a new rocker panel on the drivers side of my 70. If any one out there has done this before any advice or tips would be great. I will also be installing a 1/2 quarter on the same side when I do this so messing up the factory quarter wouldn't make a diferance. I have never put on a full rocker before so I will be learning as I go, any advice would be helpful. Thanks, Jim

TOP

Well, I forgot all about that post! It was back in March and I have since got the new rocker on. What did you mean by TOP? Jim

It means he wanted to get you question answered but didn't have an answer, most people don't go past the first two or so pages so he was putting you back in the spotlight http://www.chevelles.com/forum/redface.gif) Wish I would have seen it I could have helped http://www.chevelles.com/forum/frown.gif glad you got it on though!

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Well thanks then! I never knew what that meant before. Even though its on I apreciate the thought. Thanks, Jim

And back to the top we go!! http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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[This message has been edited by 72SSAbody (edited 06-04-2002).]

I still need help on mine.I think?

Well what help do you need? The rocker goes into the doorframe support area and goes internally all the way to the firewall, There are spotwelds on the inside and outside of it running the lengthIf you are not taking the 1/4 panels off you will have an impossible time getting the welds out from the inside of the side window support, and along the wheel well. I would cut and splice it somewhere before the doorjamb ends. I will put some more pictures on my site tomorrow relating too the rockers and post again when I have finished them :)

Cool normie,
I too am interested in seeing the rocker panel pic's. Thanks and nice work

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Like what normie said there is no way that you can fully replace a rocker with the quarter on the car. You can remove it but there is no way that you will be able to install it the right way. A few suggestions is too fit your door to the car before you remove the rocker. That way when you go to install the new one you know it is in the right position. Take some measurements of the rocker to the drip rail, this will help you get the rocker in the right spot, keeping you from twisting it too far up or too far down.

The rocker panel is a MAJOR part of the structual frame of the car you remove it it lessen the strength. Just make sure you have the car sitting on the frame and not on a rotisstie.

Before you weld in the new rocker I highly suggest you test fit your new quarter to see it fits together you may find that you need a slight adjustment...Eric

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Those sound like some real good tip's. At this point I'm still on the floor and doing minor repairs to the trunk area but I like to hear of problems or tip's before I dig in. I thought of asking the question before but I hate to ask sooner than I need too. Since this post was here I thought I'd take advantage of it. Thanks for posting sevt

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Ok pictures are up, and on the bottom of my page... Sorry but I wanted to get them up for you guys!!! I will be redoing my website in the near future, for a bit better performance!

I put some commentary in, but like the old saying goes.. A picture is worth a thousand words http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif Enjoy!

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I might want too give you a link
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Thanks, once again a pic is worth a 1000 words

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Pop I dont know what condition your floor and trunk floor is in but you will want to repair those areas before you even think about removing that rocker. If your floor and trunk floor is weak from rust or because you have them removed, the rocker is one main piece that is holding the car in its shape. Get your floors back into proper condition before you remove it, if you do remove it the car WILL drop on that side. I made that mistake with mine and it was a PITA to get it back to where it needed to be.

Replacing that rocker is pretty straight forward not to hard,just make sure you take some measurements so you know its in place. And make sure your floors are fully repaired before you start just follow the ideas presented here on this topic and you will do fine...Eric

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OK,i got my rockers today.I got them from a resto shop just down the road.I asked about Goodmark rockers but they said the ones that they had,Sherman & Associates were better rockers than the Goodmark's.I got the name from the Goodmark supplier page so i guess they are atleast respectable in quality.

I have no idea how they compare to Goodmark,or vice versa.They look nice to me and they were $79ea.

I'm having a guy come over sometime this weekend or next week to give me a quote on some of the body work including these rockers.

I really didn't want to start on the quarters this late but if i have to, i just have to,if i want the rockers to look right.

I've been looking for some NOS or Goodmark qtrs but i just can't afford them right now.All i have are the 80% quarters.

Thanks for the help and suggestions.

Supersport just my dealings with sherman and knowing from past experiences, sherman parts are far from the quailty of a goodmark part. About a month ago I order a new pair of 70 fenders from a dealer in iowa, I told them i wanted goodmark fenders. When I got them I noticed the box was way different then from the regular goodmark box. After some calling I found out they were sherman made fenders not goodmarks. The quailty between the two was huge. The shermans were nothing short of pure junk, looked bad and I can only imagine the fit. The goodmarks looked great and even fit great, believe it or not but fit better then the OEM fenders that I removed.

The reason that I figure that they tried to send me shermans was because they are cheaper in the first and get a much better mark up price. If I was you I would return them and TELL them to order goodmarks. Every item that I have bought from goodmark came in a goodmark box with a goodmark label on the part.

One other thing the goodmark quarters WILL BE cheaper to install then those 80% quarters. Sure the 80% are a lower intial cost but the cost to install will be so much higher. I do body work for a living I could have that Goodmark quarter replaced and in the first coat of primer in a 8 hour day. That 80% job would take around 2-3 days to do right. The right way is to butt weld it, you dont you are wasting your time it will come back to haunt you later. It would take a good day or portion, to weld it and finish it off. My shop gets 45 bucks a hour, goodmark quarter to install roughly 860 bucks including part. 80% job to install around 1400. Not to mention that in the long run the goodmark quarter will look better. If you havent bought those 80% yet please do yourself and your body guy a big favor and wait til you can afford the goodmarks.

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1970 chevelle SS455 not a typo its a buick baby
1949 and 1972 chevy trucks
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I might not be remembering correctly but my goodmark rockers were either the same price or cheaper (I am remembering 49 bucks each) than that! Not too mention I could NOT distinguish the difference between the goodmark part and the one that came off my car! It even dropped right into place where the old one was removed! Do yourself a favor and get goodmarks if you can! Believe me when I tell you I would rathar have the goodmark part!!!

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The Goodmarks are around $95ea but they didn't have them,i don't think.They said that in rockers that the Shermans were better.I don't know about the quarters or anything.I don't think and i hope that in something as simple as a rocker that there would be any major screw-ups in the Sherman part.

If it takes longer than about 2 weeks to get started on them i'll go ahead and order some Goodmarks to compare.I was thinking about doing the %80 qtrs myself ,if i screw up i can always get the full qtrs later.I already have the %80 ones.

Hey,nothin big but look at the percent signs,one way they look like a 96 and another like a percent sign http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif

[This message has been edited by supersport396_2000 (edited 06-06-2002).]

Supersport leave it to sherman to screw it up. Iam telling you sherman is not a company I would buy any parts from. No matter what it is the lines arent as crisp the metal is ALWAYS thinner and takes more mods to get it to fit. Buy the goodmark and forget the sherman rocker.

Installing a 80% quarter is not something for the first timer, I would try and sell the quarters you have and buy the full, it will make it easier on yourself and your body guy...Eric

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1970 chevelle SS455 not a typo its a buick baby
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Wow, when I posted this no one responded, now 3 months later it has 20! That's my luck though. Well, I just wanted to add that when I did my rocker I got the full one from Goodmark too, and you can't tell it apart from the GM one, and it fit perfect. Jim

This is what Sherman said.

I asked: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>I know your going to be biased toward your products
BUT,How
do your parts compare to Goodmark Ind parts.

I just recieved some of your 68 chevelle rocker panels instead of
Goodmarks.I noticed that your peices are not Electro-Deposit
Primered,only
grease,any reason?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They replied: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>You received a Canadian rocker and only Taiwanese rockers have the EDP
coating. We are one of Goodmark distributors also so we do carry most
of
their parts.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How's that http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif