Apologies in advance - the pics are a little dark. They are also of my '66 Impala. Anyone care to test your knowledge?

http://chevelles.com/showroom/ss3964spd/MistressEng1.JPG

http://chevelles.com/showroom/ss3964spd/MistressEng2.JPG

How about a Tonawanda valve cover decal

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 67shovel:
How about a Tonawanda valve cover decal<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not for 66 Model year.

Dan, regardless of how many problems are here http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif...it looks real good, you should be proud!!

I don't know the finer points of Impala details, and trust me, they are different in some case from the same model year but in Chevelle....

I see that battery tag....trash that...reproduction thing only. and is your battery installed upside down??

Alternator Bolt should come through from the firewall side.

Can't tell if that Engine assembly date stamp pad is unpainted? it should be if it isn't.

Carb Return spring should be attached to the lower hole, not top, except on high HP engine.

Master Cylinder looks abit too GLOSSY.

Washer bottle...water is wrong shade of blue http://www.chevelles.com/forum/tongue.gif

Again, I would have to consult the AIM on the Impala details and so, can't be confident in much here...though I am confident that your hood hinges look exceptionally good http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif


Mike



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OK, this is all for fun and not malice. First off, let me congradulate you on a beautiful restoration, I hope you did it yourself. I assume so since most people will not pay to have Impalas restored due to the expense and return on their $$. I am taking a fun stab at this actually to test myself as I am not a '66 expert.

As Mike said about the Tonawanda decal. On Impalas, that started sometime late in the year from what I have seen. The VIN pad should not be painted.

PCV tube hold off s/b orange.

By-pass hose s/b orange as Tonawanda painted the engine with the by pass installed as well as exhaust manifolds (over restored).

Aftermarket hood insulation clips.

P/S cover s/b black plastic (?).

Repo oil filler cap and s/b painted orange.

W/W fluid s/b green in '66 (?).

Wrong vacuum advance. (?)

The '66 radiators I have seen had the radiator cap tabs facing North/South.

The battery ground cable should be mounted to the block above the fuel pump, not the water pump.

How am I doing? Forget it. It looks great! Glad to see some more barges on here once in a while. Lets see more of the car!!!
Rick


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[This message has been edited by Rick_Nelson (edited 12-13-2002).]

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In no way will I be offended at anything anyone will say - so long as it's constructive!

Shovel, as much as I like the "T" decal it would not be correct.

Mike and Rick, thanks for the kind words. The engine compartment is probably the high point of the entire car. I certainly wish I could do a proper restoration but space, equipment, and talent are somewhat lacking. Although I'd dearly love to remove the body, I've had to take a section-by-section aproach. Now that the engine compartment is largly finished and the interior is close, I'll turn my attention to the front suspension, then the rear. It'll get done - eventually!

Mike,
I've heard the same about the battery tag, consider it gone. Thanks.
I don't think the batt is upside down because all the acid stays in it this way. Oh-oh, you mean backwards! http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif The AM shows the current orientation to be correct.
Just looking through the AM and see the ear of the alt should be behind the bracket. Good catch, thanks.
The pad is painted, will un-paint (is that a word?) it.
Thanks for the tip on the return spring.
The M/C was done by a highly regarded Chevelle guy. I believe it to be correct.
I haven't a clue on the correct shade in the washer refill bottle.

Rick,
The PVC hold off? Are you referring to the 90* elbow (RPO K24) on the RT rocker cover?
I knew about the over spray on the manifolds but did not know about the BP hose. Thanks for the tip.
Excellent catch on the insulation clips. Supposed to be square with rounded corners and a round hole near each corner. I've got the correct ones, just not installed yet.
PS pump cap is correct metal but I do not know if it is supposed to painted black. I opted for a natural finish to match what I believe to be a correct radiator cap.
I could never find a diffinative answer (painted or not) on the oil filler cap. Thanks, I will tend to it.
I'm clueless on the W/W fluid color.
Correct on the VA. It's an after market unit to limit the advance.
I'll have to look into the N/S orientation of the rad cap.
Negative to the block 'eh? When I acquired the car the cable was mounted in it's currect location - on a stud. Seemed logical so I didn't question it. I can't find a clear routing referrence to it in the AM or SM.

This is a tremendous learning experience - much appreciated.

FWIW

The 66 Chevelle gets the neg cable to the water pump as you have it, but I can't say that is correct or not for Impala?

Just bustin your nads on the ww fluid http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif

and yer sure about that battery?? See, I told ya, different details and same model year.

don't be so hard on yourself Dan,,,,we can see the progress you made on that engine bay, the rest will no doubt be equal in it's final product http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

It's been a long time since seeing these cars new. I agree with most on the alternator bolt being backwards, the battery being reversed (seems most all of them have the Pos. post to the inside),the radiator cap orientation, paint on the BP hose and painted PS pump cap. As for the rest of the things the experts caught, good job guys.
Minor, minor details that you can correct or leave as you like. Either way, it's a great looking job. I too would like to see more of the car.

Certainly not qualified on this subject like Mike & Rick etc but for 66's I have always felt strongly that the PB booster were black from the factory I have a 66Chevelle that definitely was black and a friends Impala same way .........I always thought the booster plating started in 67 ?? the 66 original cars I have seen have an id decal on pass side on top of the black booster........ comments

or is your booster naturel steel, which some have told me could be correct too

[This message has been edited by CDN SS (edited 12-13-2002).]

I agree on the booster but was afraid to comment as I just don't know the '66's like I do the '67-69 cars.

Don't take my word for the rest of the stuff as I said I was more testing myself than pointed out areas. As an example, I believe you guys are correct on the battery ground as I think they changed to the block in '67 or 68. The oil filler cap is the same thing, I have seen too many done either way. If it were me and thinking 1966 in the Tonawanda plant, I know that the exhaust, intake, by-pass, valve covers, clips and most small brackets were mounted on the engine at the time of painting. The original valve covers I have, have no paint in the area of the oil filler cap showing 'something' was there at the time of painting.

I did this more for fun just don't take my word for it. I am almost tempted to put Bob's LS-6 engine on here to see what we can find wrong with it. I may learn something! http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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[This message has been edited by Rick_Nelson (edited 12-13-2002).]

Battery orientation: the '65 Chevelle manual shows the battery installed in such a way that would place the positive cable about 1/2 an inch from the edge of the fender and with the posts toward the radiator support which means correct cables will not even reach that far! I've been told the assembly manual is wrong. Turning the battery around makes much more sense since the positive cable is in a much better position and both cables reach their posts as they should. Just a thought that the manual you have may be wrong as well. I also cross referenced against pictures of my car's engine compartment taken in late 1965 when the original battery was still in place. The assembly manual was wrong or the workers ignored it and installed the battery in the only way that made sense.

I can't say if this is the case in your instance, but if the cables reach the battery posts you are better off than I was at first.

In all the assembly manuals I've seen you can see hundreds if not thousands of dated revisions. I'd venture a guess that sometimes what we find in the manuals was taken out of use in production for various reasons but that when these documents were recompiled many years later the rivised pages were not able to be located so what we ended up with are the original mistake pages or pre-change pages. Regardless, we do knows some errors do exist in those documents even though they remains the single best tool when doing a restoration.

[This message has been edited by Rich-L79 (edited 12-13-2002).]

First of all, congratulations on a job well done. I have been a fanatic of the Impalas all my life. I saw the engine compartment at the bigining. Your hard work is paying off. I can almost guarantee you that you are about to experience the domino effect of the restauration process, where one thing leads to another. I'm no expert, but it looks damm good. I have a friend who lives in Fairfax. I go there once in a while. He lives close to Guinea Rd. coming of Braddock. Do you live close to this area? Are you attending the World of Wheels Show in DC?

Canadian 70SS

All,

It certainly looks as though the batt should be turned around - there would be less of a chanse of a short against the core support should the thing come loose. However, in addition to the various pictures in the assembly manual where the battery is shown (posts towards the core support), I don't think the + lead to the junction block would reach - it would have to cross behind the battery. Likewise for the small ground lead to the core support. While researching the battery orientation I did verify that both the + junction block and the - ground point on the core support are in their correct positions. My battery confidence is high!

The booster finish. The black ones I've seen are the result of someone trying to make an engine compartment "presentable" before a sale by spraying everything on the firewall black. But the few sources of info I've seen say the booster and m/c cover are plated. I will dig around a bit more to see what I can find.

Dan

Luis,

Thanks for the compliment! I already have experienced the domino effect. I pulled the engine for a rebuild and to detail the engine compartment. Which lead to replacing the heater core, which necessitated the removal of the wheel wells, which provided the opportunity to replace the antenna lead. Getting to the core also meant removing the console, which lead to restoring and calibrating the console gauges....etc,

Yes, I'm about 15 minutes from Guinea Rd - I know the area. Make certain you drop me a note if you are down this way again. No plans to go to WoW.

Dan, once I get my Chevelle from CT. I'm going to go up to your place. That's going to be around March/April time.
Canadian 70SS

I dunno. But what is that Pepsi bottle doing under the hood http://www.chevelles.com/forum/tongue.gif ? Seriously, is that the washer fluid bottle or a bottle of washer fluid sort of just laying there?
Seriously?

Are you serious? http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

I'm sayin the booster is correct, cap is correct, body of master cylinder...just a bit too glossy...should be satin black dusting, or Natural.

Mike

Dan you make me so jealous sometimes! Actually, you make me want my 66 back. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/frown.gif

Anywhoo, the w/w fluid should be green for a 66. I've heard green rubbing alcohol is an exact match and easier to come by. And hey, that's not the right aircleaner! Perhaps you should sell that one to me and get yourself one of those little Mr. Gasket ones. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Lookin good!

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Luis, stay in touch on the March/April time.

jt, Pepsi bottle is actually called the windshield washer refill bottle or, "Opticleen/Opticlear" (depending on the year). It's a triangular shaped glass bottle that mounts under the hood in a special bracket (in different locations depending on the car model) and it was used to - yup, refill the plastic windshield washer jug.

I'm with ya Mike, everything I've heard/seen says the booster is plated. One day, however, I hope to see one of these cars completely restored by someone who KNOWS what they're doing!

Andy, you manage to show up at the darndest times. Hope all is well. Ok, that's 2 votes for green w/w fluid for '66. Thanks for the tip on green rubbing alcohol. Sadly, I can't say I've actually ever SEEN green rubbing alcohol so I'll have to look.

You're the first to note the dual snorkle air cleaner. Should be single snorkle. I have the correct one but use the dual when I'm out hunting Wabbits. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif Truthfully, I like the way it looks and it sound terrific when the secondaries on the QJ open.

another way to get the correct colour wiper fluid would be to add food colouring
jason pollock
66 el camino

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ss3964spd:
[B]Andy, you're the first to note the dual snorkle air cleaner. Should be single snorkle. /B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

DOH! Sometimes the obviouse are not obvious enough and we look right beyond the ends of our noses and I am an Impala guy!!!



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The "Metal Mistress" as my wife, Rebecca semi fondly refers to it as.
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Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to reply. I'll print this thread out - it'll give me some (more) things to do over the winter.

One incorrect item that exists but can't really be seen in the photos is the incorrect, small block, fuel pump. I've got a BB pump but am still looking for the correct 90* output fitting. Can't seem to find it anywhere.

Regards, Dan

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Awww, fer cyrin out loud, there's that IMPALA guy again.

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She is a beauty!!! Your car brings me back to 1969 when a guy imported one from NJ. At the same time his friend imported a 1963 SS with a 327, also convertible. A year later another 63 convertible SS 409 and a white 64 also convertible arrived in town.
Canadian 70SS

Dan, I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote my earlier post...green rubbing alcohol?!? I meant to say green (mint) mouthwash looks the same. I must be losing my mind or something. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif

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1969 Caprice 4400LBS!!
454/M-20
12-bolt 4.10 Posi
13.45 @ 105
323HP @ 5200RPM
382lb-ft @ 3300RPM at the wheels!

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 66brit:
another way to get the correct colour wiper fluid would be to add food colouring
jason pollock
66 el camino<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Or just buy the green w/w fluid available in most auto parts stores. It is a "summer only" blend so may be harder to find this time of year. It is usually named 'bug off' or something similar since it is supposed to remove bugs better than the blue stuff. However, it can freeze so it should be drained out in colder weather. Using this stuff also allows you to actually use it unlike the other suggestions which are items you might not want to get on your paint.



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