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: How far off is the factory tach?


Rich-L79
May 9th, 02, 1:12 PM
I've toyed with the idea of swapping my 3.31 gears for 3.73 gears for some time now. In the end, I've always justified NOT doing so because I don't want to zing the engine on longer drives. With my non-stock sized tires (shorter) I've always been curious how accurate my speedometer and tach REALLY are so I can more accurately determine what I'd be doing to the engine. Years ago I swapped out the speedo gear in the trans to match the tires I run on the street the vast majority of the time so I've always assumed it was fairly close but never really sure.

The car has 3.31 gears and rides on 235/14's. At 60mph the tach reads right at 3000, maybe just a touch below it. I've asked friends I've caravaned with how fast we were going at various times and things seemed to be pretty much on target on the speedo side assuming THEIR speedo was accurate to begin with. This led me to believe 3000 at 60mph seemed high.

The other day while in the Chevelle I approached an awful intersection that has been the site of numerous accidents, many fatal. Now they have set up a sign with radar that shows you your speed and flashes it at you if you are speeding (speed limit 45). Theoretically to allow you the chance to get down to or below the limit before you reach this semi-blind steep down-hill approach to the intersection.

Anyway, if this radar sign can be believed, my Chevelle's speedo dead on with these tires and gears. More accurate than either my truck or my daily driver MR2. I passed through this area about 3 times and every time it was dead on to the radar sign.

Assuming for the moment that this sign is NOT set to overstate speeds to get folks to slow down even more, I have to now assume my tach is off (not surprising) since by using an on-line calculator, my RPMs with this combo should be more like 2650. Even on these crappy 64/65 factory tachs I should be able to clearly read a distinct difference between 2650 and 3000 RPMs.

Okay, I could buy an aftermarket tach to use and test with but I really don't want such an item in my stocker. In the end, is there any way to adjust the accuracy on the factory tach?

Funny thing is, at idle speeds and a little above, the factory tach is pretty accurate to my tach/dwell meter readings so the tach's inaccuracy isn't consistant so maybe I should just leave well enough alone! Of course, this is assuming my tach/dwell meter is correct. Man, what can I trust?! Unfortunately the tach/dwell only reads up to 2000 or I'd hook it up with longer leads and go for a drive and see how things match up.

AND, would running at nearly 3000 rpms at 60mph with the 3.73 gears be unnecessarily rough on my short strokin' 327?

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65elcamino
May 9th, 02, 2:28 PM
Rich,

To verify the accuracy of your speedometer, use the mile markers along the road to record your times and then calculate the average speed to over the distance traveled. Of course you need to do this on a flat stretch of road and keep your speed constant. Make your measurements over at least a 5 mile distance to minimize actual error in the placement of the mile markers. Do this measurement for various speeds as well. This will help verify your speedometer/speedo gear accuracy. Also record the RPMs at the various speeds

Once you do this, you can use the formulas to calculate what your RPMS should be for a given speed.

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Jason Shulenberger
May 9th, 02, 3:47 PM
Your tire size comes into play when you are talking gear ratios. There are ways to calculate final gear ratios accounting for the tires. (dont remember how)

With the speed sign, and 65elcamino's suggestion, you will get an acurate reading.

At exactly 60MPH, you will travel exactly 1 mile in 60 seconds. A longer test is always good.

Rich-L79
May 9th, 02, 3:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 65elcamino:
Rich,

To verify the accuracy of your speedometer, use the mile markers along the road to record your times and then calculate the average speed to over the distance traveled. Of course you need to do this on a flat stretch of road and keep your speed constant. Make your measurements over at least a 5 mile distance to minimize actual error in the placement of the mile markers. Do this measurement for various speeds as well. This will help verify your speedometer/speedo gear accuracy. Also record the RPMs at the various speeds

Once you do this, you can use the formulas to calculate what your RPMS should be for a given speed.

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Already have used this method to check the Chevelle and get the right speedo gear for the truck after the gear change. So I guess I know the speedometer is on target since it has proven good under varied test methods.

ss3964spd
May 10th, 02, 9:56 AM
Rich, you can have the tach recalibrated. I had similar issues with the factory tach in my Impala so I sent it out.

I won't say here who I sent it to the first time - bad experience. The second time I sent it to Williamsons. Excellent people to do business with and they turned it around quickly. Like them so much that I sent my temp/oil/vac/alt gauges to them to check/calibrate. They found that the brand new temp sender I sent alnog was bad so they got another one and calibrated the temp gauge to it, and gave me the sender for free.
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Dan

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427L88
May 10th, 02, 11:17 AM
Rich, while my tach at idle matches my hand held, when I put the 7K Rev limit chip in, the tach shows 6400 when it actually bumps 7000. It may be the sweep speed as Undee hypothesized, but all in all, stock tach's pretty much suck. Maybe next year, I'll try Williamsons.

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Sid Coleman
May 10th, 02, 12:56 PM
Rich, not sure how accurate this is, but I double checked my speedo by using a GPS. If you know of anyone who has one, borrow it, should at least give you an idea of how close you are.

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1BadRat
May 10th, 02, 1:43 PM
I can back up what Gene said. I've seen several factory tachs and specifically 3 different 67 blinker tachs, and they all were low and slow. They were close at idle but the more rpms, the more they were off. I understand the recalibration thing works pretty well.

60mph @ 3000 seems too high for 3.31's. I've always used 3000@60mph as a ballpark figure for 3.73's.
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