: How much is my car worth?
Marina Blue 67 SS Convert Dec 27th, 02, 4:34 AM The car is my signature with a white top. I've had it since 1984. It's a 4 speed car. The engine is a 4 bolt 454 bored to a 467. It was dynoed at 487hp/513tq. It has aluminum rect. port heads with a strip dominator topped with a Holley 800 dbl pumper. When I bought the car it had a 350 in it. I've since replaced that engine a long time ago with several big blocks. I've checked the cowl tag and it's a real SS convert. The one thing that it has that I've never seen on another 67 is my seats have headrests. These are the original buckets. The headrests look similar to 68 headrests. It's been in storage for the last 3 years. I got it out and fired it up. She's definitely going to need a tune up. Here's the history of what I've done since I've owned it. 1987 repainted it Marina Blue as on the cowl tag paint code. 4.11's installed in the 12 bolt. About 4 different big blocks. Rebuilt Muncie 4 speed. 7 years ago a new white top and replaced the hydraulic pump motor. Here is the condition it's in now. It's starting to get a little bit of surface rust. The interior is a shambles, the seats are torn, couple springs poking out of drivers seat. Carpet is virtually non existent in the front. Trunk and front floorboards have serious rot, major holes in the trunk. I had to jury rig some wires just to hold the gas tank up. Electrics are pretty bad. The frame is in GREAT shape. From about 20 feet away she looks great. The blinker tach was also missing when I bought it. So basically it needs a frame up restoration. I love this car. It was so great to hear it running today after being silent for the last 3 years. That big comp cam(305) sounded great after so long. My 2002SS Camaro will never sound like a big block. I have no idea if it was a 325,350, or 375hp motor originally. I've looked for the build sheet. The car was built in the third week of march 1967. So how much do you all think it's worth?
72SSAbody Dec 27th, 02, 4:44 AM <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Marina Blue 67 SS Convert:
The car is my signature with a white top. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Don't see no signature http://www.chevelles.com/forum/confused.gif
Joe
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Marina Blue 67 SS Convert Dec 27th, 02, 4:54 AM This should do it for my sig.
Marina Blue 67 SS Convert Dec 27th, 02, 4:57 AM oops forgot to check the sig box.
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1967 SS396 Chevelle Convertible. Marina Blue/White Top. Muncie 4 speed, 4.11's gears, 12 bolt posi, 467 ci. big block. 4 bolt main, 10.3 compression. Factory aluminum rectangular port heads, Strip Dominator intake. Holley 800 cfm dbl. pumper. Comp cams 305 duration 575 lift hydraulic cam. Comp. cam roller tip rockers, Hedman headers. 487hp/513tq.
Mytmouse Dec 27th, 02, 8:51 AM Obviously aesthetic and mechanical condition, originality and location, as well as its true SS status also come into play and based on the description above it has plenty of needs. Certainly if it a true SS (138 car) and is a rag top there is some value there because of the desireability of many to have a drop top and the rareness of the convertibles (less ragtops made then coupes). Unfortunately I am not the one to put a value on a large project that this one appears to be. I am sure the value to me would be extremely low as compared to what you think it is worth because of the time and money this car appears to need. Completely restored (frame off) to show quality correct condition with a non matching numbers big block motor (if it is truely a 138 car), it is probably in the 22-25K range. What do you guys think? Start subtracting labor and materials for all of its needs and you can see the approx value. Just my $.02
Certainly if it had the original motor , even if it was beat, there would be more value. Hopefully others that have experience with buying and restoring projects like this can help you more on the value.
Robert
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66 MYSTERY CHEVELLE Dec 27th, 02, 10:11 AM Sorry, but I always see these "What is my car worth" Posts...as FOR SALE Adds in disguise...whether intentional or not http://www.chevelles.com/forum/frown.gif
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67shovel Dec 27th, 02, 10:24 AM Without standing there and looking at it I'm thinking $3000.00 ta $5500.00. It's only about 3 to 4 years of free labor and $25 grand worth of parts/paint/mechanical from being perfect!
sxtysix Dec 27th, 02, 10:26 AM I think that I'm in agreement with Robert.
I also think that it's all about what you want to do with it.
If you're wanting to sell it then putting it up for auction on eBay or something similar might show you what it's actually worth; only as much as someone is willing to pay for it and not one cent more.
If you're planning on restoring it, then consider this; mine was given to me, but after adding up the prices of all the stuff it's gonna take to restore it I will have spent far more than I could ever hope to sell it for and that's with me doing most all of the work myself, plus I started out with one that was very solid and complete.
I didn't even have to deal with the "R-Factor" and replace a lot of sheet metal, which only makes the cost of a restoration all that more expensive. That in itself was a blessing and was what made me decide to keep it. Had it been in need of major surgery then I would have more than likely sold it off to someone braver than me.
I'm not trying to convince you either way here, I just wanted to let you know from my personal experience what I thought. It's VERY hard to put a price on a project car no matter what it is.
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bcice Dec 27th, 02, 11:20 AM <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 66 MYSTERY CHEVELLE:
Sorry, but I always see these "What is my car worth" Posts...as FOR SALE Adds in disguise...whether intentional or not http://www.chevelles.com/forum/frown.gif
Mike
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There are two ways to look at this Mike. Where else would you post it, and where else can you find people that know as much about Chevelles as right here? I am not knocking you at all for your post but if I was thinking about selling mine, I think I would ask here first. Perhaps not this forum, but definatly on this site. Terry
Mytmouse Dec 27th, 02, 12:06 PM Mike,
Although I agree with you for the most part, the last time I made an issue out of somebody trying to disguise a for sale ad in the form of the question, I "took it on the chin" a little on that thread and it got out of hand and down right ugly so I decided to let the moderators determine the validity of these type posts and toast it if necessary.
If indeed this person is looking for help, I kind of agree with Terry. Where else will he get better information?
In the FWIW category, for me, it is very difficult to put a value on a project like his. If it is going to take 25K to make the car right and it is only going to be worth that much at the most when it is done, for me I would be hard pressed to give up much up front in the way of greenbacks to get a car like this. I know it shouldn't be thought of as a money making making venture but I would be hard presssed to start at a 5-10K deficit and that was the point I alluded to in my original post.
I am sure others might look at it differently especially if it is the car they always wanted. As we have said many times before, value is what somebody is willing to pay. And you know I just love that Marina Blue color http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif ... although I am not much of a rag top guy
Robert
66 MYSTERY CHEVELLE Dec 27th, 02, 1:45 PM Terry and Robert ( I mean Mouse ) http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif
I agree with both of ya as well, and that is why I said, "whether it is intentional or not."
It's a tough call and one I am not looking to make decisions about, let the mods do that is right! Just more of a pet peeve...no harm no foul...ReStart the Game http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif
Mike
70Bob Dec 27th, 02, 1:53 PM I think the poster truly wants an idea of what their car is worth, and I can't think of a better place to ask than here. I'd be willing to bet they have had people tell them that the car is worth "big bucks", so it would seem logical that if this is true, the collective knowledge of the folks here would certainly confirm...or deny that. I didn't see anywhere where the poster was saying the car was for sale, or that they were even considering selling it.
That being said, I think if I were in the market to buy a car similar to that, I'd be willing to pay between $2500 and $5000. You might be lucky and get more, but the $$ to restore it will probably make it difficult.
1966_L78 Dec 27th, 02, 2:41 PM I'd have to agree...
It is a true SS convertible, but missing the original engine, needing a complete restoration, and most importantly, lots of rust and rot...
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>It's starting to get a little bit of surface rust. The interior is a shambles, the seats are torn, couple springs
poking out of drivers seat. Carpet is virtually non existent in the front. Trunk and front floorboards have serious
rot, major holes in the trunk. I had to jury rig some wires just to hold the gas tank up. Electrics are pretty bad.
The frame is in GREAT shape. From about 20 feet away she looks great.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
And think of all the rust he didn't see... If the floors are that bad, the cowl, door jambs, quarters, etc are all probably pretty close behind... And maybe even the frame where its not visible...
Yeah this sounds like a huge project... I'd say $2500-$5000 sounds pretty reasonable...
I'd say mainly the rust and lack of the original engine that are the main detractors...
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supersport396_2000 Dec 27th, 02, 3:24 PM From your sig>>Factory aluminum rectangular port heads.
Are they L89 heads or did you mess up?
wrencheadblues Dec 27th, 02, 5:00 PM wrencheadblues here new member so be good to me- I do have a 1966 aztec ss 396/325 match-n-suffix-n-vin ragtop, its optioned well and does have powerglide, i'm 2nd owner , but it needs a restoration for shows, 90,000 miles origional. price 10 years ago 8500.00 . only paper work Pro tect O Plate . since , this site helped me find broadcast sheet, now I hope these cars hav'nt gone down in 10 yrs, you factore in time and few cars out there and I,D SAY A RANGE $7000 / 12,000 mark
Marina Blue 67 SS Convert Dec 27th, 02, 5:45 PM Everyone thanks for the responses, Here's the VIN number: 138677K76892. It's a 138 car.
I posted this topic to see what it's worth. This isn't some thinly disguised ploy to sell it. I just wanted to see what it's worth. I haven't looked in Hemmings for awhile due to it being in storage. Out of sight out of mind.
A. I'll never sell it. I'll pass it on to my boy.
B. If I wanted to sell it I would of put it in the "for sale" section.
When I buy my next house I'll begin the restoration. I don't care how much I have to spend on it. To me it'll be worth every penny invested. I know I would never get back what I put into it. Some of the responses it seems sound like they assume I just got the car a few years ago. Just because I'm a newbie here doesn't mean I know nothing about these cars. I've researched 67 Chevelles plenty. I thought by coming to this sight I would find even more knowledgeable people than I.
My plans for restoration are obviously new sheetmetal, wiring, and interior. Since it doesn't have the original motor I thought I would do some updating ie. better suspension, disc brakes(maybe 4 way disks) From the outside it would look stock. I might however replace the 15x8 rallyes with new ones that are being made in sizes 16,17,18. I think the 17's with my little center caps on some low profile tires might look cool.
Thanks for the input. One question no one addressed was the headrests. Anybody know of any 67's with headrests on the buckets?
sxtysix Dec 27th, 02, 5:47 PM Wrenchhead,
I don't think that the value of these cars has gone down as a whole.
Probably the opposite.
Unfortunately, for whatever reason, some people do nothing to preserve the value of them, like letting them rot away, for example. Then those same folks are usually surprised and disappointed when they find out that their car isn't worth nearly as much as they expected it to be.
Your car sounds very much to be in good "driver quality" condition. That is a long way in desireability and therefore value from some non-original car with a hopped up motor but otherwise neglected to the point of self destruction.
I have parted many of those neglected types out simply because the whole thing was worth a lot less than the sum of all the parts seperately.
MarinaBlue,
Yes, I have seen '67 headrests before, but not very often. They were optional on bucket seat Malibus and SuperSports. I think that they may have been more commonplace in GM's other A bodys like GTOs, 442s and GSs. They are even in reproduction now.
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PGreen Dec 27th, 02, 9:49 PM Hi
I found some info on this site, or somewere. On the amount of headrest cameout in 1966 chevelles. 2300 and something. My malibu has headrest and this is the frist set I have seen. I am going to have more money in it than it will be worth to some people, but I am going to know what I have under the paint. 396, TH400, 3.31 12 bolt posi, a/c, power window, PDB, buctets, consol and done my way, priceless!
Pat
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Bomber '67 Dec 27th, 02, 11:11 PM Call me confused, but did I read it right that the question was asked how much is it worth?
While it is true that there should be a good repository of info here (which there is), it is also true that asking that kind of question amongst a group of people who are not currently looking to buy that year/model will not get you a satisfactory answer. This is a forum of hobbyists, not appraisers, and none of us have even seen your car in person.
Did I also read that correctly that you have no intention of ever selling and that you are going to restore it no matter what anyway? Why should you even care what it is worth?
If it is really important for you to know its current condition value you could do any of the following and get a better answer:
1) Watch for similar cars lited on online auction and see what they clear the block at, this will at least put you in a range of values.
2) Please post a good number of pictures where we can look it over. My experience has always been that when people ask "how much is it worth" and then don't post a single picture usually the car is in much worse shape then their description. I.E. "starting to get some surface rust" often translates into "daylight not yet showing through rust". One of my favorites in classic car listings is when they say "no rust visable" and they really mean "I haven't taken a good look at it".
Please don't take this the wrong way, but why not fill your head with thoughts of how to get it restored, so that you and your boy can enjoy it?
Thomas
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Metalmechanic Dec 28th, 02, 12:22 AM there is know way you can set a value as per what other peaple think your ride is worth, you can check what there going for and sell. i've had rides that I dumped 6 grand into sold in much better shape then when I bought it, and got the same price I paid for for it,But they were kicken times, and I was'nt making a car payment, I could never sell my ride adding up all the hrs. and money invested, only give me fair value to get another hot rod...
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