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: best way to "rake" my car


boduke
Jan 24th, 02, 6:56 PM
ive heard of using small block springs for the look, or also just cutting one coil off of my existing big block springs? also, i do have air shocks in back, but im running the stock 14" wheels, soon to be upgraded

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TronDD
Jan 24th, 02, 7:17 PM
My vote goes for lowering springs. Something designed te be shorter. They are stiffer to help avoid bottoming out which will probably happen if you use small block springs under a big block and may happen if you lop a coil off.

Tim.

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406_70_velle
Jan 24th, 02, 7:20 PM
What is the car going to be used for?

Strip yeah the 6 spings wouldm work great, helps weight transfer but it will give a fare amount of body roll and handling won't be that grand either.

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Yellow69SS
Jan 24th, 02, 8:29 PM
Boduke,
I'm thinking of doing the same thing to my ride (2" in the front only as I sometimes run 15X10 MT's on the rear and need the room)and have found several ways to go about it. Can use: (1) dropped spindles - supposedly the best way alhtough the most expensive, runs around $350+, (2) Lowering springs - these are drop-in's that are "progressive rate" meaning that they are more tightly wound at one end than stock, run about $150, or (3) cut-down stock springs, least expensive but also supposedly giving worst handling. I'm probably going to go with the lowering springs due to cost and all. If anybody has any other options I'd sure like to hear of it before I write that check.
Thanks

old67camino
Jan 24th, 02, 11:26 PM
Spend the bucks and get the dropped spindles. I've got my '69 lowered 3in in the front with cut springs and i wish i hadn't. The biggest problem is the lack of travel between my lower a-arms and the bumpstops. The ride is velvet smooth until you hit the stops (which is often with cut coils). I realize specially designed springs wouldn't hit as much but i think the spindles are the best investment. Hope this helps

Wally
Jan 25th, 02, 3:52 AM
Air shocks? They still make air shocks?

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2BlueLS6's
Jan 25th, 02, 6:20 AM
I prefer to leave my Elky inside so that it doesn't require raking.

If it does happen though, I usually start right below the back window with an 18" plastic yard broom, making swift short strokes from front to rear.

(I'm truly sorry for this post, it was just too good an oportunity to pass up)

FO_FDYFO
Jan 25th, 02, 7:57 AM
I have a set of new 2" lowered springs for sale http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif $125 and I'll pay for shipping. I am just an opportunist.

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Mondo454
Jan 25th, 02, 10:28 AM
I'd go with the drop spindles if you just want the 2" drop. You don't loose any suspension travel, you don't have to buy special Drop shocks with shorter shafts. You keep all your original alignment specs. It's just less headaches.

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FO_FDYFO
Jan 25th, 02, 12:41 PM
what do you mean droped shocks? why would you need droped shocks? you are not working beyond the stock limits of travel. and when you use droped spindels, correct me if i'm wrong, dont you change your calipers and rotors to 1973 and later components?

406_70_velle
Jan 25th, 02, 12:45 PM
I was under the impression that it was 67-69 camaro spindles would drop the car about another 1/2 inch?

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TronDD
Jan 25th, 02, 1:14 PM
Won't a drop spindle open you up to bottoming out? Maybe that's not a problem for everyone but I've hit my header collectors with a stock suspension. If you lower your suspension, I suggest stiffening (your suspension, that is) also.

Tim.

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[This message has been edited by TronDD (edited 01-25-2002).]

boduke
Jan 26th, 02, 5:59 PM
so if i were to go with drop spindles, i could use all the existing parts, but if i bought some drop springs, would i need to get different sized parts? thanks

Hotrod65SS
Jan 27th, 02, 11:14 AM
No, because of the design of the lower a-arm and ball joint, there are no aftermarket dropped spindles available that can be used directly with the '69-'72 disc brake parts with no modification. They are all made to be used with the later Chevy 11" or 12" rotors and calipers. Do the right thing and call Classic Performance (714-522-2000), Master Brakes, or another brake and suspension supplier and get the straight scoop before you make your decision. I went through this recently when I dropped the front of my '65 that is equipped with a '72 disc brake setup. I wanted a 1.5" drop, and after all things considered, I went with special new springs from Eaton Spring Co. in Detroit and got an exact 1.5" drop with no increased harshness in ride. Except for a slight toe-in adjustment, the caster and camber settings remained the same with the new springs. E-mail me if you need more info.

Rod

boduke
Jan 27th, 02, 12:39 PM
thats is defintely somethign to consider seeing as i have theh stock disc brakes in the front. i really cant afford to upgrade at the moment, but i will email you rod, thanks

BobH
Jan 28th, 02, 6:25 AM
Front to back with gentle strokes

FO_FDYFO
Jan 28th, 02, 8:12 AM
if you use lowerd springs you dont have to change anything. you will need a front end elignment. thats it. droped spindels involve getting other components to make it work.

elky1476
Jan 28th, 02, 9:01 AM
I asked the El Camino Store about their dropped spindles and he told me that you have to use S10 brake parts (rotors, calipers, etc) so, since I already have discs, it wasnt worth the hassle. I think I might try the Eiback ProKit, as its only $250. I just hope my current 30 year old springs arent just worn and the installation of these springs just give me the same look.