I apologize if this has been covered before, but does anyone know if ALL 1967 Borg Warner 3-speed transmissions have a VIN stamp on the main case?

I'm trying to confirm that the trans this guy is trying to sell me is the original one for our car. He's supplied me with some numbers, but not a VIN.

Thanks,

Jill

I can’t really tell if the unit # should contain the same ending digits as the v.i.n. of your car, but it almost seems as if the best you can do is simply have a date code that matches or precedes your car's build date. In reading the 1967 Chassis Shop Manual it only gives the location of the Transmission Unit Number, being located vertically on the right side of the tailhousing flange (where it meets the main case). In the picture the h.d. 3-speed is coded W-0424 which I assume means Warner built on 4-24 (but I don’t know that for fact).
If you can post the # on the tranny and the info off of your cowl tag (engine # as well) we (any of our team) may be able to figure it out. It couldn’t hurt. Remember that as late as 1967 there was often no serial # on things like the engine (just the plant, engine code & date). My ’67 has a K1212CQ engine code. I could replace it with any CQ engine built the same day and still have it numbers matching, technically.
If you get this info and want to post it, it may be best to post it in the Tag Team area, where many ‘sharpies’ can help you decode your car's build date.

Thank you! I spoke with the guy again today and he says he's gone at it with a wire brush, but still doesn't see a VIN. He did come up with a casting date code on the maincase , A-30-7, which I believe is Jan. 30, 1967. One of the trans components has a date of 11-30-66. It also says W.G. Div. which I guess is Warner Gear Division. The casting date on the engine is either May or June of '67 (can‘t remember) & the assembly date on the trim tag is end of June. Are these dates too far apart?

I was curious about whether or not it would have a VIN stamp as some things I’ve read said they do and others only say that they should. I think as long as the dates correspond it will be ok... Thanks again!

Jill

I will assume that A-30-7 means January 30, 1967 since I don't know for sure. Yes, the date does seem a fair bit removed from the production date of the car, but it is for the same model year. Besides, the B-W 3-speed was not a popular transmission in Chevelles in 1967 despite the fact that they were made available with virtually ALL engines from 230 c.i.d. sixes through 396/375 horse engines (396 only though in Canadian-built Chevelles). Since it was not a very popular transmission, it would potentially not move quickly from the parts stock. It may still be the legit trans for your car. As an example the engine in my '67 was made 3 days before it rolled off the assembly line in my completed Chevelle (it was installed in 34% of the cars on my list of 50 consecutive built cars). Several cars before mine there was a 283/4-speed (not as popular; it was the only DB code in 50 cars) that waited 16 days before rolling off the line in a completed car. The original glass in my mid-December car was from August '66.
I doubt that you will find any serial # on this 3-speed tranny that will directly correlate to your car's v.i.n. B.T.W., does the seller have the original shifter & ball? You may still be able to get the ball from Danchuck. If not, the Hurst Indy is excellent.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cam:
I B.T.W., does the seller have the original shifter & ball? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The shifter is there and I believe he said the ball is too. If not, thanks for the info on where to order.

Thanks for your help! http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

Jill