Im not trying to start any flames here but like in my earlier post, and can by a clean 64 Chevelle SS and now I can buy a 66 Chevelle for the same price. The 66 is a non SS and doesnt come with a motor or tranny either. Although the 64SS comes with alot of extras. Which would you all by and why???

Thanks,

Bryan

Gee, I'm not sure which I would choose http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

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Which one is a better built car, and which one will be worth more in the future??? Im only looking as this as a fun car to drive and a good investment to dump alot of money into.

Thanks,

Bryan

Even though I like the looks of a 66 better; I would go with the 64SS. The reason being is it is a SS and comes with extra stuff. You didn't mention what shape the bodies were in, but if they were the same shape I would go with the 64SS. Just my .02 worth.

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Well, you have two completely different body styles. This will be up to you. Which one do you like better?

I will simply ask you to define "benefit". Are we talking what the hot ladies would like more? Available parts? re-sale value? or the "look what I got and you dont" factor?

The problem im having is that I Love all chevelles and Malibu's but I don't want to buy something and dump a bunch of money into it like lets say $10,000 dollars in a complete resto. and then the car appraise for like $12,000. Both cars are in good shape. The 64 comes with alittle more extras like a new set of fenders another hood, instrument cluster,chrome trim and SS badges. The 64 is a Chevelle SS, and the 66 is a Chevelle Malibu. I like both body styles, what I need to know is which one of these cars is worth more restored, or which one is more of an uncommon vehicle.

Thanks again,

Bryan

I also forgot to mention that the 64SS comes with an additonal trunk lid with the trim and the interior has absoultly no tears or rips.

Bryan

Iceman,
Personally, I'd go for the 64.
Under the skin, they are all most the same car. The Super Sport is kind of like a pedegree, and you are almost always ahead with the more complete car.
I think most people favor the 66 as slightly better looking, so it might be worth a little more in the future, but you will probably spent that in parts anyway.
I'd say both would be equal fun to drive, with the same modifications.

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So your saying go with the 64SS hands down???

I have to say I personally like the style of the 66 much better but I think I would still go with the 64 SS with extra parts

a 64 SS probably would be worth much more restored than the 66 Malibu


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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dean:
a 64 SS probably would be worth much more restored than the 66 Malibu
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Either would probably cost more than $10K in a complete resto. Don't quite understand the phrase, "...dump a bunch of money into it like lets say $10,000 dollars in a complete resto. and then the car appraise for like $12,000..." Sounds like $2K profit right there if that's your plans.

Money-wise, the 64SS might fetch more at resale time, (I'm going to get jumped for this) as there is nothing particularly special about a Malibu unless it has some rare options and possibly a documented history. Don't do it Mystery - don't do it http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif

As others have said though, go with what you like.




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Bryan,

"Old cars Price Guide" #2 Condition

64' 2 Door HardTop SS(+15%) $12.850.00

66' 2 Door HardTop Malibu, V-8 $11.900.00

They are not always worth what you invest in them. Do it for the love of the car or for the love of the hobby.

Also keep in mind, someone will always pay more for the right one!

FastSS396man

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I have no plans on making money on the Chevelle I buy. I just want to get the rarest of the two cars. I dont know how rare a 64 Chevelle SS is and I dont know how rare a 66 Chevelle Malibu is either. I was just trying to use the money option for example. I do appreciate all answers in making my desicion. I also found out that the 64SS was a 327 car.

Keep them coming,

Bryan

Without knowing off-hand, I would bet the 64 SS is more rare than a 66 Malibu by a 3x or 4x margin.

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I personally don't think there is much difference in value between a 64 SS and a 66 Malubu if they are both restored to the same condition. A 64 SS is not as valuable as 66 and later SS's, and will never be. Granted there is a premium associated with it because it is an SS, but that is offset by the fact that the 66 is a better looking and more desirable body. If the bodies are in the same general condition I would say get the 64 SS since it has a good interior and a lot of spare parts. As for the 66 not having an engine or trans, does it really matter? Unless you plan on using what is in the car already that makes no difference. Around here a basic drivetrain consisting of a 350 smallblock and TH350's is cheap.

Lastly and most importantly, get the car you will be happier with. Don't let future value drive your decision since how much you enjoy the finished car is the best motivation.

Steve R

Well, I say you buy BOTH, and then someday down the road after looking at them a few million times in your driveway or barn...maybe then you can decide which one YOU like best http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif j/k

Seriously, I am always just a little put off by someone who is trying to make business decisions about something that virtually everyone else decides based on which year bodystyle they happen to like the most. You will almost never get your money back out of a ground up restoration, besides that, car restoration is supposed to be a fun hobby that you do to enjoy the process of making a junker into a looker. With two cars, either of which is lacking their drivetrain to start with, I'm not sure what kind of restoration you have in mind with a $10,000 budget - not that it would be impossible for you to make a good cruiser for that money, its just that I haven't heard someone use the term "complete resto" and "$10,000" together for a while.

Okay, if you want to be picayune and split hairs over this particular '64 vs '66:
1) Neither one has the original drivetrain, neither will be numbers matching.
2) You could make the '66 an SS 396 clone and probably draw more spectators than a nice '64 SS with a 327 would while either car is on display (with apologies to '64 lovers everywhere).
3) The '64 sounds like the clear winner based on your description of all the equipment and extras included...but somehow you seem reluctant on it, and you are now distracted by this '66 - which I guess means that YOU like the '66 bodystyle better.
4) If my #3 is correct, then go with the '66, big block it, and never look back http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

Best of luck whichever way you go, Thomas

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How do you know the 64 is a true SS?? If it is a Malibu badged as an SS then you have 2 Malibus on your hands. Do you get some documentation on the SS to tell it's true heritage. If you do, then the decision is an easy one...I would go for the 64SS. (BTW: I saw one pull into the local grocery store the other day that I have not seen around before and it was a sweet looking ride.) I think without documentation, the 66 body style generally has more appeal. You can clone the 66 and make it into the same thing as the 64 (if it is a clone) and then I think the value is a little greater when you are all done. The 64 sounds like a running car already and that also has appeal...to me...the fun is in the driving

Mytmouse

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Bryan, if you are looking for a stock type resto then I would lean towards the 64. If you are looking for something to throw a 509 in and go FAST, than I'd go for the 66.

IMHO, of course.

The 64 of course because 64's are the best looking Chevelles ever made http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif - but you would already know that as does everyone !!!!
Let's see -64 SS with motor and extras or 66 non-SS with no drivetrain - sorry, only a rocket scientist could figure this one out.

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You can verify the SS on the 64 by the VIN. I think it's 57 and 58 for the Malibu SS in 64. Get the 64. They look better anyway http://www.chevelles.com/forum/tongue.gif

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Jeff,

I thought you could only tell the SS models on the 65-68 versions with the VIN (138).

But... Gene makes a good point...depends on what your final plans are. That 509 in the 66 sounds interesting.


Edited portion: Ooooops my bad. I looked it up and the VIN needs to start with a 5837 for a 64 SS Hardtop w/V8. So if you can confirm that the 64 is truly an SS by the VIN then I think it is an easy decision to go for the 64 unless the ultimate goal is a radical race car restoration. Running car with extra parts...yep...would be any easy decision if true SS and probably even if not.

'Da Mouse

[This message has been edited by Mytmouse (edited 10-23-2001).]

I'll check the vin and get with you all.

Bryan

I say buy the 64, simply so ya dont have to change your screen name http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif

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Midnight Marauder I just got to tell you I have never hear "look what I got and you dont factor" before. I love it,love it,love it. aint it the truth. oh, and on the subject, forget both and get a 1970 chevelle station wagon and through a 454 in it. you can hall stuff like car parts, take the dogs out, sleep in it at car shows, etc... and for me it really has that "look what I got and you dont factor"

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Midnight Marauder:
I will simply ask you to define "benefit". Are we talking what the hot ladies would like more? Available parts? re-sale value? or the "look what I got and you dont" factor?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>