Did all 69 big blocks come with the "Tonawanda" decals on the chrome valve covers. If so, where is the correct location for them.

Thanks gang.



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ACES #4241, TC #947
69 SS Sedan (http://www.angelfire.com/rock/69ss)

Hi Don. I don't know for sure, but I think they all did come with that decal. On my car it only has one decal and it's only on the passenger side valve cover. I can measure for you when I get home but it is close to the front top of the valve cover. I'm fairly sure because my car had not been altered.
Jody

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jodysss396 (or Jody)
1969 Chevelle SS396
Fathom Green
Numbers Matching
TC member #921

Mine's the same ! Passenger side only. 375 HP. Chrome cover.

Mine is a 350hp and is in the same location.

Sounds like just one near the front of the passenger side cover. So be it.

Thanks guys.



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ACES #4241, TC #947
69 SS Sedan (http://www.angelfire.com/rock/69ss)

Don, center of valve cover(up & down) at the front ending just before the valve cover turns down. Hope this is understandable.
Jody

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jodysss396 (or Jody)
1969 Chevelle SS396
Fathom Green
Numbers Matching
TC member #921

Hey Don,

According to the Chevelle SS restoration guide (an indepth personal favorite) page 15. The Tonawanda engine decal was not used from 1965 to 1969 with chrome valve covers.

Let me know if you ever need help with your 69. Me and Paul Herd will square you away.

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Happy motoring!

Jody - thanks for the measurements, I appreciate it.

John - my copy of that resto guide was loaned to a friend several weeks ago thus the posting here. As mentioned in a previous thread I started, I don't put much faith in a lot of the information in that book, seems to be several errors.

The only resource I have is my 69 Camaro stuff and pictures show the decal on them.

Some of the early posts in here seem to be very definitive. Unless somebody jumps in and is 100% sure there should not be a decal, I will assume there should.

Thanks again.

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ACES #4241, TC #947
69 SS Sedan (http://www.angelfire.com/rock/69ss)

[This message has been edited by Don_lightfoot (edited 01-30-2001).]

Page 15 regarding the Tonawanda decal was one of many errors in the book.

I was being a wiseguy http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

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John - when you said "an indepth personal favorite" I kind of figured you were being sarcastic but wasn't sure.

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ACES #4241, TC #947
69 SS Sedan (http://www.angelfire.com/rock/69ss)

Still tryin to pick it apart huh Don,, http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif Mann uall must get real bored up there in the snow country,, wanna sell it????????????????

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[This message has been edited by L89SEDAN (edited 02-02-2001).]

Hey Nick - I don't believe in picking anything apart, if I ever have any criticism of a car I just keep my mouth shut. No good can come from spouting negative thoughts around. Yes, you certainly critique a car during the purchase process but that's usually the end of it.

I'm still learning about this Chevelle stuff and this is the best place to get answers. More questions may be coming after I finally get to drive this Blue Beast and that's still a few months away.

And yes, I am "bored stiff" neck deep in all this white stuff. The worst winter we've had in many years.

I suppose you're out driving that black LS6 and yellow 67 http://www.chevelles.com/forum/mad.gif

Catch you later pal http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

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ACES #4241, TC #947
69 SS Sedan (http://www.angelfire.com/rock/69ss)

Actually no,,,the Black cars motor is in a 1000 pieces ,,and the Yellow cars body is in a 1000 pieces,,all I gotz is pieces,, http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif But hopefully in the next Month or so they will be bac together,,,,will swap U either of them for Ole Blue http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif Nick

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Nick - don't say that "swap" word too loud or my wife may hear you. She just happens to love 67's.

Sounds like you are grooving to the Dave Clark Five tune of "Bits & Pieces".



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ACES #4241, TC #947
69 SS Sedan (http://www.angelfire.com/rock/69ss)

Don,

One thing I've noticed about these is that the ones I've seen that are original are usually a little crooked. I think some guy pretty low on the food chain got the job of applying these stickers.

Tom

SWAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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LS6! LS6! How about a silver 69?

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Tom - interesting point. That might have been a good job for me http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif



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ACES #4241, TC #947
69 SS Sedan (http://www.angelfire.com/rock/69ss)

Don, whether he was busting my collunes or not ( that NY Italian for ballz), a local Tonawanda worker who owns a "100 pt" 66 Chevelle, claims that no stickers were ever put on the "special" hipo mills like L88, L89. At least as regards my 67. So while I have one on there ( it seems de rigeur among resto guys), I suspect its not correct and may indeed be removed.

If you dont have one, its probably correct.

I wish I remembered this guys name , and I will run into him this summer and ask again.

Let wifie row the gears in my red 427 tripower 67, and we'll talk about ME swappin for old blue... http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif

Hey Gene - a very interesting point you have made, now I'm really confused http://www.chevelles.com/forum/confused.gif

I may follow up with you in the spring about this, will send you an email.

Thanks.

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ACES #4241, TC #947
69 SS Sedan (http://www.angelfire.com/rock/69ss)

Yea I heard that too Gene,,But then I asked Chuck and he reversed my thinking,,,,Hell who knows for sure http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif Thanx for the offer the Mr 69,,,,But that Ole Blue car is the one I want back http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

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OK fellas heres the gospel according to the engine plant at Tonwanda, many thnx to Vicki who runs their web site!

Dear Gene,

I realize its been awhile since you heard from me, but you have to
understand this was an enormous undertaking involving half a dozen engineer
and tech types from not only at Tonawanda, but from others in the
Corporation who were involved with Manufacturing Development.

The jury is now in, ALL motors produced for 1967 through 1972 did carry the
Number #1 Team Logo.

Below is the list broken down by year:

1967:

Big Block:
366 c.i.
396 c.i.
427 c.i.
Small Block:
283 c.i.
327 c.i.
Corvair:
164 c.i.
4 cylinder:
194 c.i.
6 cylinder:
230 c.i.

1968:

Big Block:
366 c.i.
396 c.i.
427 c.i.
Small Block:
307 c.i.
327 c.i.
Corvair
164 c.i.
4 cylinder:
194 c.i.
6 cylinder:
230 c.i.

1969:

Big Block:
366 c.i.
396 c.i.
427 c.i.
ZL1
Small Block:
307 c.i.
350 c.i.
400 c.i.
Corvair:
164 c.i.

1970:

Big Block
366 c.i.
402 c.i.
427 c.i.
454 c.i.
482 c.i.
Small Block
307 c.i.
350 c.i.
400 c.i.
Vega
140 c.i.

1971:

Big Block
366 c.i.
402 c.i.
427 c.i.
454 c.i.
Small Block
307 c.i.
350 c.i.
400 c.i.
Vega
140 c.i.

1972:

Big Block
366 c.i.
402 c.i.
427 c.i.
454 c.i.
Small Block
307 c.i.
350 c.i.
400 c.i.
Vega
140 c.i.

Had one or two of the people we had to assemble for this task not been
available, this would never have been completed. GM does not keep historical
records any longer at the manufacturing sites. Historical pieces and
information is being handled at one main facility now, and even they did not
have this information.

../end If you folks want to thank Vicki , her email is masteruser@masteruser.com


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Gene Chaas
Gold Member 62/ACES 3112
67 SS 427 (http://www.chevelles.com/feature/october2000.html)
"Be big. Be a builder."

Gene, you get the gold star for today!! The depth of the resources at this site sometimes boggles my mind. I will send Vicki a thank you email for her diligence.

You the man Gene http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

I for one would like to thank you for your efforts in this regard, I think you have definitely gone "the extra mile".

A thank you is on it's way to Vicki as well.



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ACES #4241, TC #947
69 SS Sedan (http://www.angelfire.com/rock/69ss)

Ah heck Don, its pure self interest, I'm trying to prospect the retirees for asset management services! http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif hehehehe.

Hey Vicki gets the gold star; all I did was ask.

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Gene Chaas
Gold Member 62/ACES 3112
67 SS 427 (http://www.chevelles.com/feature/october2000.html)
"Be big. Be a builder."

Gene
Very nice results.But what about the Romulus,Michigan plant that produced the small percentage of Big Block engines.
My understanding is that they did not get ANY I.D. decal at all.Did she confirm this in any way,or does she only have access to Tonawanda records?

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NCOA#1670-ACES#175
1970...ON THE MOVE (http://community.webtv.net/rap3/1970ChevelleL78)

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 427L88:
I'm trying to prospect the retirees for asset management services! http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif hehehehe.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Guess we should have known there were ulterior motives http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Ms. Vicki already sent me a reply to my 'thank you' email. She is on the ball!!



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Bill Pritchard
69 SS396 Convertible
"Doing my part to help the disadvantaged - My Chevelle was for sale by a blatant liar. Didn't trust him, so I hired a blind man to inspect it before I bought it."
My low tech web page (http://home.att.net/~bpritchard/index.html)

Add my thanks to Gene and Vicki.

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von '69 300 Dlx SS TC #15 ACES #1575
My '69 SS (http://sites.netscape.net/von69ss/homepage)

Well what do ya know....sounds like my friend was correct after all, NO TONAWANDA Sticker on 66 Chevelle BB 396 engines ....very interesting indeed!!

Many thanks Gene, you know that has a special meaning to me and many other 66 Owners doing very correct restorations.

I will forward this info. to those who I feel will also find it interesting.

Guess what I'm peeling off tonight http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

MIKE

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Looking in the "Noland Adams" as Vette guys call it ("The complete Corvette restoration and technical guide-vol.2 1963 through 1967") shows some 427 engines in Corvettes in 1966 with the sticker. These are GM photos, pages 356 and 357.