What do you do when a neighbor in your subdivision sees that you like owning GM products. Being my 70 chevelle and my Grand National. Keeping the tread on my tires in the neighborhood trying to be a good neighbor would seem to be a polite thing to do. But it seems here recently that the guy down the street has installed flowmaster mufflers on his little GT and has somehow found that lost hidden horsepower in the front of my house. For those who don't know there has been a long rivalry between the GN's and the stangs. Should I pull down in front of his house and spool the turbo into oblivian and show him what he will inevitably face himself when I catch him out on the street. Or just wait till I catch him out. I've even thought about going down and stomping his little @$#. But that wouldn't end this little thing. But what really ticks me off is I"ve 2 weeks before I get the gears and the rear set up for a little racing. I'd love to give him a taste of Big Block power. But then again spanking his little #$% with the Buick would be a thrill. Well guys, what should I do.

Ignore him?

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Dave (NY)
70 chevelle ss396 conv
66 chevelle ss396 hdp/conv
72 chevelle
55 chevy prostreet
69/71 camaros
61 impala bubbletop
TC member #493

I have a simmilar problem with not only stang owners, but just about anybody who "thinks" they have a somewhat hot car/truck.

It never fails that I come up agains some pin-head in a 5.0 who wants to go top end with me down the highway. (I live 35 minutes out of the city)

I usually let them take the lead and then park myself about 1 to 2 car lengths right behind them, then watch them sweat. Last guy I did that to was in a GTA firechicken.

We did my 35 minute drive in about 20 minutes, over 100mph all the way. (4-lane highway, so lots of room to pass others)

I know it's not the smartest think to do, but dammit, sometimes it really ticks me off when I can't just go for a drive without someone wanting to street race me.

The funny end to this story is when I passed him at over 120mph as I approched my turnoff overpass, and looked back to see someone in a neon tring to keep up in my rear view mirror.

Laughed my arse off the rest of the way home!

Any ideas on how to deal with these 'individuals'?

Doug

You could go to his place, knock on the door, and tell him that it ain't very cool doing a big ole' honkin burnout and/or go hotroddin through the neighborhood and the next time he does it, you'll call the law on his PonyAss. If he seems like an Ahole, just ignore him and call the law each time he does it. If he sees the err of his ways, then you can call him out, on your terms, nice and civil like. hehe

If you do hook up, run him in the GN, then rag on him for getting beat by a v6



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Tryin to walk a straight line....on tequila and cheap wine


Richard Dorrough
Tulsa, Ok
'68 Chevelle
'70 Nomad (CHVELLE)
ACES # 789
TC # 453

I'd agree with Chvelle but dont do it on the street keep it at the track.
God only knows that when people are driving the streets they have enough to deal with Jr crying in the back Johnny wants to stop at MC D's Moms running late to get them to soccer practice & GOD FORBID SHE"D HAVE TO HANG UP THE F&^%$*G CELL PHONE

Sorry here's your Soapbox back

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Philip Mullaly
72 TPI El Camino
An Oldsmobile is a Chevy with lock-washers(and more torque)

The guy owns a mustang, isn't that punishment enough.

I owned a '69 roadrunner convert a few years back and the little 5.0 boys always wanted to race my old mopar. Stripped them of their manhood every time.

8 out of 10 neighbors you can walk over, invite them back to your place for a cold one and then slip in the subject of the danger of roddin in the hood. Even the 5.0 guy in my old neighborhood tried to go easy. He was a home owner and decided his driveway was exempt. Every night you would see him come down the street, whip into the driveway. He would stop and then do a hole shot into the garage.... Worst part about that move is I won't be there when he takes out the wall between his garage and kitchen... http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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...Dennis
Topless '69 (http://home1.gte.net/ddunio/topless69)

Take him to the track and use your 6 poper to rub his face in it.

I agree with Chvelle, Kick his butt with a 6 banger that runs like an 8 and then laugh in his face. I have nothing against Fords I just hate jerks who hotrod through my neighborhood. Gotta couple a guys who think their Harleys are bad and do this same crap up and down my street weekly. Someday my basketball might roll in front of 'em! Damn I hate to see all that pretty chrome go down on the pavement, but these guys are really, I mean really outta control.

Don't go down there looking for a race. He'll then know he got to you and you're worried about him. He'll probably come up with all kinds of excuses why he can't race anyway. Best deal is race him at the track so his friends and the world will see his butt get kicked, but if you catch him out in a safe place and no cars are around, well maybe give him a little taste. Another fun thing to do to these squirrels is to pull up next to him at a light where the law is nearby and goad him into getting all over it while you sit back and watch him make an ass out of himself spinning tires and banging gears til hell wouldn't have it. Then watch the blue lights go after him. Don't even chance driving by slowly, you could get nailed also for street racing even if you didn't participate. Turn off and wait for the opportunity to smile at him.

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von '69 300 Dlx SS TC #15 ACES #1575

Approach him at a cruise or in front of a bunch of his friends along with at least one of yours, give him a friendly invite to your local drag strip and set a date & time to end this "I'm faster than you" crap.

There's your/his chance to prove yourselves, in a heads up. A no-show constitutes a win regardless of previous time slips.

Keep it off the street........

The end -- nuff said.

-Greg

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I live in a quiet neighborhood. When I get the Velle out, I get revs from the local gearheads that drive by. Thats cool. If they decided to do a neutral drop (which IMO is the only way to get a 5.0 rustang to spin without hitting the "button")thats not cool. I'd call the cops.JMO. Lots of weenies out there. Just wondering did mommy and daddy buy it for him?

I've got a couple of $*&^$'s in my neighborhood that gun the motor or chirp the tires in front of my house. I'm not sure if it's the '70 and '71 SS sitting in the garage, or the patrol car in the driveway that does it. Probably both! When they do it, and I'm outside, I just wave. Ain't worth loosing sleep over.

I wouldn't suggest going to his house and telling him anything, 'cause if someone came to my house making threats they'd find themselves on their ass in a heartbeat.

Whoever this dude is, he'll get tired of being silly, and'll stop laying scratch eventually when he has to buy new tires.

My $.02 worth...

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Sean Thomas
TC Member #907
Sean's 1970 SS L34 (http://members.home.net/gorbe875/index.html)

I wouldn't get too bent out of shape if I were you. I had the same problem with a neighbor kid. Once I started talking to him he turned out to be a nice guy. After I took him for a ride, he didn't want to race anymore.

Just run him. I wouldn't take it personally unless you've got kids playing around your house. It's just part of the game.

I have found that people like this can never be found when you go out. I seems the only place they go is in front of your house and then they vanish.

I would just ignore him, that should really bug him a bit and if he keeps acting immature in front of your house it will catch up to him one way or another.
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Brett
'67
SS396
clone

Red, I deal with it to, some friendly(buddies) some not, chances are the Law's of Probability will put you in the right place at the right time and you will know what to do http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif Don't confront the guy on his turf that's a good why to get your clock punched. People who do this aren't too bright(legends in their own minds) I've seen it happen. I rolled up on a scene one time where one guy had followed another home to complain about the noise of a car, the first guy came off the wrong way and the owner of the loud car proceeded to beat the first guy in response to a perceived threat upon his family and trespassing, within his rights...not a smart move for the first guy. Anyway back to your ques, most of the guy's that do this are probably feel pretty inadequate about themselves or the car, a badass'd car doesn't need to be rev'd for those who know what one sounds like http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif Ignore him until the time arises and use the Buick that's insult to injury. Good luck bro.

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64 468 Blk Elky rwhp 458
87 GN rwhp 431@24lbs
68 BBlk RS/SS Blk in progess
65 stk orig 86k 289 Stang rwhp ....pleeazzz:D
Power through Chemistry makes it happen...I just like helping it along every now and then

I don't usually like to get the cops involved, but in the suburbs there's always the danger of accidentally hitting a kid. Think what would happen if the car got away from him and jumped up on the sidewalk and into someone's yard, which is why I recommend that you DON'T go do any burnouts in front of his house. You could try talking to him about it, or even invite him over to your place to talk cars and mention to him that residential areas are off limits. You might try to explain to him that this kind of stuff is the reason that people are so fast to condemn all car people as a bunch of lawless, punk, hot rodders. But if he persists, you have no choice but to give the cops a call and let them know what's going on.
I had this same problem with a kid up the street from me who owned a 1980 T-Bird that he had souped up with a 5.0 from a Mustang. He desperately wanted to race the AAR Cuda that was sitting in my garage at the time. My son knew the guy from high school and relayed to him just how bad a butt kickin' he would get from the Cuda if a race were to ever take place. But he was also informed that it would never happen, and to just accept that he was out of his league. The burnouts persisted and he ended up getting a stern lecture from the local cops. They didn't catch him doing it, so he didn't get ticketed, but I did let them know it was going on and that I was concerned for the safety of the kids who lived on our street. He got the message. I don't like to be a tattletale who goes running off to tell the cops, but when it comes to children and their safety, then the little ones have to come first.

RedRider I know the feeling you are going through. My brother has one of those pesky 5.0's and races in the NMCA events in Pure Street. I know very well about this type of Ford behavior. I bet this joker is talking smack about you to all his buddies about how you are afraid to pull either one those G.M. products out of the garage. Well let him hang out to dry. Ignore him. Sooner or later he will have to buy tires. Johnny Law will get him sooner or later hopefully before he kills some little 4 year old with parents who don't watch their kids, runs out in the middle of the street and gets turned into hamburger.

Speaking of those parents that let their little todlers play in the street. Last summer I had to stop my Chevelle for a little 3 year old kid who was just sitting in the road. It made me so mad I revved up the motor a little and low and behold I had a mom come screaming at me telling me to quit ripping the roads before I runover some kid. I told her I would call the Law on her if I seen her kid in the street like that again.

Thanks for the replys. The guy is 30ish so I guess he would of had a little more sense. But the sad thing about is it only happens when I'm inside. I just happened to be on the computer posting at my favorite sight when I saw him doing it out the window. I'm sure I can stay out his yard and wait to catch him out for a friendly invite at the track. But I'm sure the chicken #$%^ will probably back out of it, seeing as how he only burns the tires when noone is out. I've got 2 kids here to worry about and my house is located at a intersection of one subdivision going into another. But if it does keep up and he turns the invite down, I guess I'll tell the law. But personally I'd love to go down there and take chain saw to his car. Time will tell. Thanks guys.

I get the same thing all the time; I live on a main street, and every stupid kid with any sort of car that they think is a race car, has to rev their motor when they pass my house. I usually wave at them, but none of them stop.

Just take it as flattery that you must be the King, if people are "challenging" you.

Next time, walk out your front door with camcorder rolling. Start it before you walk out the door. I'm sure he'll love being taped! Then, a little talk with the local police while showing them the tape should work. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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MalibuJerry350
Original owner '70 Chevelle.
540,000+ miles on car.
My Chevelle: http://hometown.aol.com/erie614/myhomepage/index.html

As a parent living in such a sub-division, I get pretty protective of my kids riding bikes on our street. Luckily for me, most of my neighbors have kids too, and feel the same way. We've actually had a chat with a few kids in their imports. One kid was especially bad in his R/T Stealth. After a talk with the local constables that we stuck on him, he's been much more subdued. There's also a blown 5.0 a street over, but he actually minds his manners and has stopped by to talk cars.

I used to autocross my Shadow with SCCA. I had sponsors, so naturally, I had their sponsorship and my class numbers on the car full-time. This was before it was fashionable to roll your import through the sticker book. Anyway, I had every punk in town trying to run me (could've been the Flowmaster exhaust ;). I finally couldn't take the constant harrassment and went to magnetics.

I guess I'd just tell folks to teach your kid to be carefull when they are out playing. My kids are double carefull. Of course it also helps that I'm usually out with them watching, something most parents don't seem to do much of anymore.

Drive safe on the street!

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David Reinecke - aka - FINE 68
1968 Chevelle 300 Sport Coupe Deluxe
http://www.geocities.com/jdreinecke

I guess us chevelle guys get this treatment all the time. My reaction to this sort of mustangish behaviour would have been different 4 years ago. I have grown from comming out of the driveway sideways with tires a boiling in pursuit of the local 5.0 or Riceburning moron to just ignoring them. Most of them do not stand a chance, and just want to show off to their buddies in the car. And even if you do go out,race them, and whoop them till 100MPH and slow back down to 55 they will almost always come flying past you at 95 MPH like they are doing something and you just lost, and you will be hearing about it all the following week how johnnyricer beat the huge motor chevelle last week.
Just ignore him. It's alot less grief that way

My method is to beat them unmercifully to 50 and tap the brakes so they see the lights and let them go on to collect the ticket.

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Dale P.
Team Chevelle Member# 423
65 El Camino
72 Monte Carlo
"..you did you take the washer off, right?"

I send my wife out to beat them up with her Vette. Hate having my Happy Hour disturbed.

I hate people that think they have a sweet car and it's really slow. Like rice boys (www.riceboypage.com if you don't know what im talking about) and people that think a stock gt stang is the fastest car in the world. Man I love lighting them up, expecially when they're with a girl in the car. My 81 El Camino has a 355 with about 400hp. The only thing that sucks about it right now is the rear end gears (2.43 or so), that'll change in about a month when I get the money for 4.10. Hoping to run some low 13s. Uh, anyway... take the GN first, then the chevelle, let him know that his car is weak, real weak.

Have you all forgotten that Malcolm in the Middle episode where he put that speed bump in the middle of the road to slow down the kid with the 70/72 Chevelle?

Love to see that 'stang take a jump like that!

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70 Impala Sport Coupe (283)"Green Goddamn!"
63 Oldsmobile Dynamic 88 (394)"Hoopty"
66 Chevelle (I wish, still looking)
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I know this is an old post but I just happened t stumble upon it. I definitely know the feeling of having people rev up or burn out in front of your house or just anywhere to you. I have a lot of pride in my car because I have been the one putting all the work into it so I treat it with respect. Anyway, I have much respect for anyone that puts there own car together with a small budget and still manage to do other things. No matter what the car is. So, I live on a cul-de-sac and this guy that lives behind me has one of those little Honda CRX things. Gutted etc. you know the story. Well anyway come to find out he has done everything on this car himself and it look slike a P.O.S. but appearently it runs 13s. So, I do all my work on the street in front of my house and Id swear it was like a show or something because when Im out there people I have never seen before are always drivin up and down my street looking all crazy at me.And so I have noticed That the guys from the kid behind me's club cruzin by my house looking and scoppin at my hotrod. Im like What the h%$l? So anyway Im at a stop sign and I turn right But I see someone from this guy's club Turning from the other side into the lane next to me. Now let me tell you, I dont get intimidated easy and Im not stupid but I thought this guy might be able to take me. I was worried okay?? So he's in this race out acura integra, (not riced, raced) loud as hell. Timing advanced/retarded?? so the thing backfires. Anyway We get to the next stopsign, now mind you I NEVER race!, where before us lies a long straightaway, little longer than a 1/4. And I look over at him ( I had just down the weekly maintainence on my car and just filled up with 92) So Im thinkin I will lose then I rethink, and Im like whats this dude thinkin. I look over and he's kinda laughing. Hello, I just did a tune up, what a moron. So I look over to this idiot who thinks he's the sh$t, and I say "Dude, you're so talented" Not to quote gone in 60 sec. but it just seemed the right think to do. Beside if anything it made me laugh. So this guy revs the car and lets off the clutch and burns out. Right there next to me. Im like screw you, by that time Im pissed at this jerk, so I drop my column shifter into first and while holding the brake I punched the car and let off the brake so as to better use the 2200 stall converter. Boom I shift into second "chirp" says the right rear tire, Before I even get into third I here this sound like a swarm of bees flying away from me so I look in the rear view mirror and he was on it but was like 20 car links behind me. Im like "and thats the car all these guys talk about at school." This guy was older than me too. So I decided about a month ago to go to one of there meetings, of course in the Velle ( teach em a lesson). And so half way through, the same guy shows up. cocky bastard. He says hi to everyone and wlks up to me and this other dude and says "Have I raced you before?" Im like "I think so" ( like a month before). He's like oh yeah, and what happened? In front of everyone I was just like "Dude, I don't know what happened, I didn't even shift into third when I couldn't see you in the rear view mirror anymore." He got all bent, but was jokingly like "I dont remember that." in that stupid cocky way. But he knows what really happened out there. And now whenever I see him, he waves. And I do the same back, but he knows what Im thinking....
Guys will be guys, but dont let it go to your head. Youll never be the fastest. Pick your battles.

P.S. go, 307, go!!

5 Wins, 0 losses

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69 Post

JOHN
1969 Chevelle
http://www.geocities.com/w_surfer99/index.html

Man... this is an old post... I still had my 81 Elky, wish I knew where it is. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/frown.gif

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kenny

85 El Camino 355ci
350 turbo - 4.11's
best run so far 12.92
My Page (http://kenny350ci.hypermart.net)

I know how you feel ;-(

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69 Post

JOHN
1969 Chevelle
http://www.geocities.com/w_surfer99/index.html

Hehe, I doubt it... was wrecked (I wasn't driving) and then stolen. Man I miss that car. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/frown.gif

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kenny

85 El Camino 355ci
350 turbo - 4.11's
best run so far 12.92
My Page (http://kenny350ci.hypermart.net)

Well...its an old post...but heres my thoughts:

There is a big difference today than when most of us grew up. Older people (parents, the law etc..) were completely different. Many frowned on our teen age build ups of our rides, and always tried to dissuade us and have us get a hobby that was "WORTH" something. Spouting this and that...always giving us a reason not to.

Well...times have changed, and WE are some of the parents now, and are STILL building cars. We never gave up no matter what was said, and all enjoy our hobby. And thats the great part. We are now becoming the role models in fast cars. All the teen age kids see us and want to be like us. Whether it is the beat up family cars, newly found muscle cars, imports or many other newer cars, they are doing as we all did. Find something you like and race it.

Think about it guys...they are paying their respects to US...whether they know it or not. WE paved the way for them. WE kept the car craze going. WE showed the world that we are not going to stop, not give up, and only try to improve on our hobbies, by making them a part of our lives.

And this forum shows that we are a success. All who come here talk of the same thing, and share a common bond. And all those kids on the street(Even if we dont like those silly looking stangs & imports) are sharing it with us.

But this is the kicker...WE are the ones who can make the difference. These kids can relate to us, if we make sure we do not act like those parents and cops who tried to stop us in our adventures. I think that when we reach out to the younger people who are interested in fast cars, we can be very helpful and give them much knowledge.

I used to think differently, but figured something out. Two examples:

1, Driving one night, I passed a group of young Chicano kids, who have a Toyota club. Now I do not like Toyotas at all. But these kids had them all lines up along the curb, they all were in their club shirts, all standing around TALKING CARS. Even though the low rider, wide tired, loud buzzing exhausted, flashy painted rides were not my idea of what I would want a car to be, these kids were proud of their rides. AND, were doing something good with themselves, instead of getting into trouble and the likes. From then on, I looked different at them, and allowed them a spot in what I call MY car realm.
2, I had to do some work to my 65 once, and yanked the engine out in my driveway, and tossed it on a stand. Now this is a decent sized town, and the cops and others are always up and down my street very often. As I took a break, and went to the back yard, a neighbor told me that a cop had pulled up out front and was looking at my car all torn apart. I dont give cops a hassle, as I like my freedom, so I decided to apologize before he said anything to me. Come to find out, he had a 65 convertable himself, and only wanted to check my car out. That blew my mind. And a week later, I was driving down the road in my Velle, and a car zoomed up behind me and started flashing its lights at me, crazy like, so I pulled over. To my suprize, it was the cop in his 65. Man was it cherry! We talked awhile and I checked his car out, and had a great experience.

Not to say all cops are this cool, or all car people are that cool, but we as role models, need to give the benifit of the doubt to these indiviuals. We will be able to tell if they are jerks, or people like us. And this is where we have the chance to educate them on ettiquette and how to enjoy fast cars, without losing their licenses or hurting someone. WE can make the difference.

BUT...I still love GM vehicles the best, and always will. Chevelles rule...




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T-Bone

Actually ?,

I do know how you feel. My stepdad had a real 69 Nova SS. 12 Sec. car, and one day ouot in AZ drag racing it he hit a pot hole and threw a rod. So he made it back to a mechanic and when he went to pick it up the next week, the car was in the parking lot, on blocks completely stripped, all the chrome engine, recaro seats, EVERYTHING. The insurance company would not pay for it and the mechanic said it wasn't his problem, so he just left the bare car in his lot. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/frown.gif

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JOHN
1969 Chevelle
http://www.geocities.com/w_surfer99/index.html

That really blows. I couldn't believe it when my parents told me when they went to pick up my car it wasn't there... I lost about $1000 just to keep the car for parts. I think overall I probably lost about $5k... I really really really hate stupid people.

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kenny

85 El Camino 355ci
350 turbo - 4.11's
best run so far 12.92
My Page (http://kenny350ci.hypermart.net)

Darn Old post. Memories.

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davidE lay off the harley guys, from my experience harley riders are tough. harleys and chevy's are my two favorite religions. i agree about the 5.0 stangs though, they should really be ashamed to drive them things, let alone smoke the tires.
i always wanted to drive an alcohol dragster putting out about 2500HP, and shooting flames out of the open headers, on the street and race rice burners and stangs, embarass all of them and have a friend video tape it so we can relive it all the time, thats pretty illegal though, so i dont think it'll be happening anytime.