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: valuation on 67 SS..need help.


Mike Turner
Jun 11th, 01, 8:41 AM
Hello,
I need some expert advice here. I am considering buying a White 67 SS Convertible. It seems to be in very good condition....everything seems to be fresh, replaced or new. The top looks to be new as well as interior. It has a big block and auto....was told 454...but don't don't know. Runs very good. It does not have posi. The car was advertised at 25.9K. Whats the car worth?

Mytmouse
Jun 11th, 01, 10:21 AM
First of all Mike, you sould get all the numbers off the VIN, Engine Pad, Cowl Tag and post them over in "Tag Team" to get an idea as to what you are looking at. To determine value, we need to know if it is a true SS convertible. The numbers requested will give us that.

At first glance however, a non matching numbers car (454 not available in 67) without posi, it would seem that the asking price is way high. If it is not a true SS car it is even more ridiculous. Depending on what the motor turns out to be, it could turn out to be a pass at that price. Of course that is just my humble opinion. We do need to know more about the car however.

Mytmouse

street_racer_502
Jun 11th, 01, 12:16 PM
Don't all SS cars come with posi anyway? That would be your first clue that it isn't a real SS, unless of course someone swapped it out(unlikely).

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Justin Earnhart
TC member #657
502 4-speed 67 SS
"Suckin' gas and haulin ass!"

427L88
Jun 11th, 01, 12:33 PM
Vin must begin with 138.... Numbers 67 SS cars begin at 26K. Malibu convertibles I;ve seen for 15K. So if its a clone ( likely), its too much, but not outrageous. If it has the right 138 vin, then its ok but no deal.

Mike Turner
Jun 11th, 01, 12:55 PM
Thanks guys...I originally offered 18k and they took but withdrew this morning. I wasn't comfortable with the history or how solid the car was. Not really looking for a true SS, or convertible...more of a real nice sleaper.

Mytmouse
Jun 11th, 01, 1:01 PM
Gene,

Not sure because I have my reference material at home (shouldn't be peeking at TC at work but I do) but weren't SS convertibles something other than 138 ...something like 137. I know the SS hardtops were 138's. Peaked my curiousity now I will have to check when I get home.

BTW. Nice to meet you Friday and caught your first run at the track....whew!!!... held on to that puppy pretty darn good when she semed to want to get away from you

Mytmouse

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67 SS396 350HP 4 sp 3:55 Posi Butternut Yellow w/Black Vinyl (http://www.pascale.org/Muscle_Cars/Mytmouse/mytmouse.html)
68 RS Z/28 302 350+Hp? 4sp 4:10 Posi, Euro Red on Black (http://www.pascale.org/Muscle_Cars/Myts_Mouse/myts_mouse.html)
70 SS396 350HP 4 sp 3:55 Posi, Black on Black (http://www.pascale.org/Muscle_Cars/Myt_70/myt_70.html)

Mytmouse A.K.A. Robert Stacho
ACES Member # 04359

427L88
Jun 11th, 01, 1:12 PM
Robert, yeah you were one of the guys I wished I could have spent more time with for sure. Next year!

I thiought about that when I posted b4, the 138 is defintely an SS hardtop. I;m sure the info is here in the reference section...since I misspoke, I;ll be right back....

According to our refernce section its still the "38" with a "67" next desingating convertible, so the vin would begin with 13867...

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Gene Chaas
Gold Member 62/ACES 3112
67 SS 427 (http://www.chevelles.com/feature/october2000.html)
"Be big. Be a builder."

[This message has been edited by 427L88 (edited 06-11-2001).]

Mike Turner
Jun 11th, 01, 1:58 PM
Actually guys...the VIN is 1356771115938.......let me know what this might mean to you. At any rate I have passed as I am looking for something more radical.

Mytmouse
Jun 11th, 01, 2:01 PM
Thanks Gene...my bad...I knew there was something different in the numbering scheme for a ragtop, just wasn't sure where the different number was. Saved me having to look it up.

Yep...next year...sure planning on being there and bringing one of mine down this time. Maybe I will brave it like you did and just drive it down. Sure respect all those that came down any distance and drove them. Damn the gremlins...full speed ahead. Ahhh but reality will sneak in and I will probably chicken out and trailer it. Love those creature comforts of the tow vehichles.
9 hrs straight behind the wheel of that Chevelle and I might not love her anymore http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Mytmouse

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67 SS396 350HP 4 sp 3:55 Posi Butternut Yellow w/Black Vinyl (http://www.pascale.org/Muscle_Cars/Mytmouse/mytmouse.html)
68 RS Z/28 302 350+Hp? 4sp 4:10 Posi, Euro Red on Black (http://www.pascale.org/Muscle_Cars/Myts_Mouse/myts_mouse.html)
70 SS396 350HP 4 sp 3:55 Posi, Black on Black (http://www.pascale.org/Muscle_Cars/Myt_70/myt_70.html)

Mytmouse A.K.A. Robert Stacho
ACES Member # 04359

Barista
Jun 11th, 01, 2:01 PM
Positrac was a separate option. It did not automatically come with the SS option. They're two totally different animals. Don't use that as a measure of this cars authenticity. Gene said it right, if the VIN number starts with 13867 it's the real deal.

BTW- I have found that most of the guys here at TC think EVERY car is priced too high. Maybe most of them have owned their cars for a few years and don't realize what current prices are like. These are great and knowledgeable people here and I'd never want to offend anyone. But...Usually when someone asks "Is it worth it?" You'll see mainly all "No's" in the replies. I've spent most of the past year shopping for a Chevelle. If this is a rust free, true SS, 67 ragtop, with a good 454 and great interior....You'd be LUCKY to get it for 20k. Ask the guys who say "no" where you can find a better one for less. Good luck!

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Bob Von Kaenel
Lincoln, NE
70 SS 402ci+.030 TH400 3.73 posi Cranberry Red

We've not been called upon to hold the fort, but rather, to storm the heights!

Mytmouse
Jun 11th, 01, 2:12 PM
135 Car is Malibu and not an SS Chevelle. So this car that you were right to pass on is an SS clone and 25K is way too much for a clone. If it was the real deal SS as said above and just had a good 454 in it but not the original motor then then the 20K probably would have been about right and that is assuming everything else is solid and mechanically sound. But you have passed already and justifiably so. The 18K you offered originally was high also. A cloned SS Ragtop with a BBC and no posi at most I would think would be in the 8-12K range. I sure am not an expert and there is nothing wrong with clones but they don't command the larger $$ and I do get irritated when the buyer doesn't advertise as such.

Mytmouse

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67 SS396 350HP 4 sp 3:55 Posi Butternut Yellow w/Black Vinyl (http://www.pascale.org/Muscle_Cars/Mytmouse/mytmouse.html)
68 RS Z/28 302 350+Hp? 4sp 4:10 Posi, Euro Red on Black (http://www.pascale.org/Muscle_Cars/Myts_Mouse/myts_mouse.html)
70 SS396 350HP 4 sp 3:55 Posi, Black on Black (http://www.pascale.org/Muscle_Cars/Myt_70/myt_70.html)

Mytmouse A.K.A. Robert Stacho
ACES Member # 04359

Mike Turner
Jun 11th, 01, 2:14 PM
This is to Bob....

Can you tell by the VIN I posted what it is?

Also I am in Lincoln frequently for bsuiness...maybe we could hook up sometime so I can check out your ride?

Seattl WA.

Mike Turner
Jun 11th, 01, 2:37 PM
Thanks MYTMouse

Barista
Jun 11th, 01, 3:15 PM
VIN indicates a Malibu 6 cylinder convertable, NOT an SS. It was built in Oshawa Canada and was the 15,938th Chevelle built at that plant during that year. Interesting thing about the Canadian cars, they are much more easily documented. Others can tell you more about that than me. But, As long as you are sure that 7th digit is a "1" and not an "L" then it's Canadian, and that's a plus. If it could be an "L" it was built in Los Angeles. Somehow it seems more likely, to me, that a convertable would have been built in sunny Southern Cal than in the Great White North, but who knows?

Next time you're in Lincoln give me a shout. I ALWAYS like to talk Chevelles and you don't have to twist my arm to get me to get the 70 out http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif. I work at 6105 "O" Street, Big Apple Bagels & Brewster's Coffees. There most days from 6am to 4pm. I'll make you a nice latte, like the ones you can get in Seattle. Good coffee is not nearly as common in Nebraska. If I'm not there my number is in the book. Hope to meet you sometime Mike!

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Bob Von Kaenel
Lincoln, NE
70 SS 402ci+.030 TH400 3.73 posi Cranberry Red

We've not been called upon to hold the fort, but rather, to storm the heights!

[This message has been edited by Barista (edited 06-11-2001).]

Al
Jun 11th, 01, 3:31 PM
I didn't notice this post and answered your other one. In light of what you posted here...... RUN AWAY FAST

Mike Turner
Jun 11th, 01, 3:45 PM
To "Al".....

I did...thanks to the information this site provided. Very appreciative.