View Full Version : Headliner Clips and Bows


chris454ss1970
Jan 11th, 05, 10:15 PM
Does anyone have a picture of the plastic clips and the bows installe? My car doesn't have any of the above items in it. Oh ya its a '70 2-door Chevelle. Thanks.

storm
Jan 12th, 05, 9:02 PM
chris i have 2 set of extra bows no clips though let me know if you need them. if nobody post a picture by saturday i can snap a pic and send it to ya. storm

chris454ss1970
Jan 13th, 05, 1:02 AM
Thanks Storm. How do you know if you have a 5 or 6 bow car? I don't know who took the headliner out of this car but thay should be shot for not keeping these pieces. Thanks for the reply.

EdCarpenter
Jan 13th, 05, 2:03 AM
Chris,
I would suggest you find a complete headliner with the bows. I kept my original rotted headliner with bows intact until I was ready to install the new one.

Each bow is a little different. They have different color dabs to indicate location. If someone on the site has disassembled a car for scrap, they may have what you need.

My 70 was a 5 bow car. You can tell by the holes along the inside roof. The center bow clips into the plastic clips.

storm
Jan 13th, 05, 8:06 PM
i think the colors worn off my bows and my extra sets also but they are pretty easy to figure where they belong. i would think the guy who does my headliner would also check to like ed carpenter said it should be 5 bows storm.

chris454ss1970
Jan 13th, 05, 10:36 PM
Thanks guys, I'll take some pics of what I have in my car and maybe someone can let me know what I have. I got some bows out of a salvage yard, I did know enough to mark them. I think if my car is a 6 bow car I'm in trouble, the donor car was a 5 bow set up I believe. Thanks for the info.

NOZ34ME
Jan 13th, 05, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by chris454ss1970:
Thanks Storm. How do you know if you have a 5 or 6 bow car? I don't know who took the headliner out of this car but thay should be shot for not keeping these pieces. Thanks for the reply. I have a '68 and went round and round about 5 or 6 bow. I've found out that I have a 6 bow, even though only 5 of them are the larger diameter bows. There was a really thin bow that was held in place by 4 clips instead of only one. It ran right under the dome light. Don't know if your year had that same possibility but something to think about.

tracycats
Jan 14th, 05, 3:59 AM
I just read the current Super Chevy and in the Chevelle tech column written by Dick Brandt, he states that all Chevelles used 5 bows except for some 1968 Chevelle's that used 6 bows. I hope I'm remembering this right. :D

webfoot
Jan 14th, 05, 12:07 PM
Do they reproduce the plastic clips for the center bow? I need to track these down, as well as a rear bow, and the brackets the headliner gets glued to.

Ralph67
Jan 14th, 05, 2:09 PM
hey i mixed up the bows off my 67 does/can anyone tell me how they go either by the color code or some other way? Thanks Ralph

chris454ss1970
Jan 14th, 05, 8:15 PM
Well as my luck typicaly goes I have to work the whole weekend. I will do my best to get my pics so you guys can help me out. Do all the bows use the plastic clips? There is some sort of plastic that runs through the middle of my roof. It is in line with the dome light. Is this the only piece of plastic in the headliner? Thanks again for the responses.

storm
Jan 15th, 05, 9:18 PM
i seen only plastic clips for the center where the dome light goes.the rest just goes in the holes and from what i understand the headliner holds the bows in the proper position. storm

chris454ss1970
Jan 16th, 05, 9:03 PM
Well I finally managed to get some pics. Maybe they'll be good enough ya'll can help me out some more.

www.chevelles.com/showroom/chris454ss1970/Jan15n33.JPG (http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/chris454ss1970/Jan15n33.JPG)
www.chevelles.com/showroom/chris454ss1970/Jan15n34.JPG (http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/chris454ss1970/Jan15n34.JPG)
www.chevelles.com/showroom/chris454ss1970/Jan15n35.JPG (http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/chris454ss1970/Jan15n35.JPG)
www.chevelles.com/showroom/chris454ss1970/Jan15n37.JPG (http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/chris454ss1970/Jan15n37.JPG)
www.chevelles.com/showroom/chris454ss1970/Jan15n39.JPG (http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/chris454ss1970/Jan15n39.JPG)
Which of the three holes do you use for the bows? Thanks for all the info graemlins/thumbsup.gif . Later.

storm
Jan 17th, 05, 9:35 PM
i think you just gotta fit them the best you can and when you take it to the uphostery guy he should be able to get it right.

dsolomon
Jan 18th, 05, 12:30 PM
The choice of holes was determined at assembly. They varied from car to car based on the headliner and the shape of the bows. When you go to install the headliner you should be able to determine by fit.

chris454ss1970
Jan 19th, 05, 12:17 AM
Thanks for the info guys. I think I'll attempt to install the headliner this weekend. Thanks again.

chev crazy
Jan 24th, 05, 6:33 PM
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/3915/mycar/interior.html Great link here for headliner install.

chris454ss1970
Jan 25th, 05, 10:05 PM
Thanks for the reply. This looks to be very helpful. I'm fixing to start on my interior. Thanks again.

chev crazy
Jan 26th, 05, 3:00 AM
Hey Chris, I did mine with the clips the way the guy in the link shows.I had it all pulled tight and it looked good. I let it sit for a couple of days and when I went back there were some wrinkles and sags.Did this a couple of more times until it stayed nice and tight.Remember to put all your scews and bolts in for sun visor,seat belts etc. before the headliner is installed. Makes them much easier to find.

chris454ss1970
Jan 26th, 05, 10:14 PM
Thanks for the info. I laid my headliner out to get the wrinkles out of it. I put two of the bows in the headliner and noticed that the bows were shorter than the sheath that they go into. Is this normal to have to cut the sheath or are my bows wrong? I went ahead and ordered new bows for the car. I noticed that one of mine was slightly out of whack. I gues thats part of the price you pay for salvage yard shopping. Thanks again for the help.

chev crazy
Jan 27th, 05, 3:16 AM
Chris,I had to trim mine back abit also,but you don't want to take too much off because this is what gives you the shape of your sides. I just trimmed it back a little at atime because I kept getting slack out of it after letting it sit for a couple of days.This made it nice and tight though.When I did mine I did the same as you,I let it lay out in the sun to get warm.The way I found the easiest to install was to put the listing wire that fits in the plastic clips up first and it kind of gives you a good anchor point to start pulling the liner from.Then I pulled towards the windshield(which was out) and put the clips up to hold it.Then pulled back,clipped and then side to side and corner to corner.I kept going around it,and then I would let sit ,and do it again until all the wrinles and creases were out. I hope this helps Chris,sorry for the long post.p.s if your liner does not have a center line you should make one and try it keep it in the middle.Mine had one on it when it came.

webfoot
Jan 27th, 05, 2:27 PM
Is it be possible to get the clips on the front and rear with the windshields in? I installed my windows and don't have a headliner in yet.

chev crazy
Jan 28th, 05, 3:29 AM
Hi webfoot,it can be done either way, I just happened to have mine out at the time. It is much easier with them out,but it can be done with them in,just a whole lot more cursing involved.

webfoot
Jan 28th, 05, 7:23 PM
Good thing I know a lot of curse words! :D

Thanks.

chris454ss1970
Jan 29th, 05, 4:53 AM
No prob with the long post. Thanks for the info. My back glass is out but the front one is in. I guess I'll be using a few choice words myself. Looks like I'll have to wait a little longer to do my headliner. I ordered my bows and plastic pieces last Sunday and they just shipped them yesterday. Just my luck, oh well.

webfoot
Jan 29th, 05, 10:07 PM
Where did you order the plastic clips from? I have searched for them but to no avail.

Maybe I'm a crappy searcher?

chev crazy
Jan 30th, 05, 2:12 AM
Hi Webfoot, if you have a Year One catalog they are on page 37. They are listed at $3.95 apiece,or $21.95 for a set of 6.If they are all out,just give me a shout and you can have the ones that I bought for my car.I figured I had better get them before I started my headliner because I figured I would break at least one. B ut when I was taking the old liner out ,I cut the cloth along the bow,where it went into the plastic clip. Then I put some penetrating oil on the bow and plastic, where they meet. Just worked it out slow,and was just lucky I never broke a clip.Before I put the bows in the new headliner, I gave them a good sanding so they wouldn't catch in the new liner, and it also made it easier when putting into the plastic clips. If you need the clips my E-mail address is listed, just give me a shout with your mailing address, and I will send them out to you.Greg