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jonjon00 Dec 5th, 99, 8:07 PM I am having a problem installing my saginaw 4spd on a 350. That piece of metal is heavy, and I was thinking of having a friend pull it up from inside the car while i slide the shaft in the cluch and bolt up.. Any takers??? I tried 2 jacks today by myself, guess u can tell it didn't work.. Jon DZAUTO Dec 5th, 99, 9:27 PM That cast iron case makes a difference, doesn't it! You're right, you need 2 people. In my younger days I used to hog around a Muncie and press it right up there and stab it. Not any more. I call for help. Get you a helper. Ten years ago I stabbed a Richmond 5sp by myself and pulled something in my right shoulder,I still suffer from it today. Never has completely healed. ------------------ Tom Parsons FrankS Dec 6th, 99, 12:40 PM Found a good tip in the repair manual. It suggests using shafts where the 4 trans to bell housing bolts would go. I made two buy cutting off the heads of 4 inch bolts of the same size as the one used to attach the trans to bell housing. Screw them into the top 2 mountong holes, secure the trans to a good floor jack, and with one person working the jack the other person can slide the trans home. Then install the 2 bottom bolts and replace the tempory shafts one at a time with the proper bolts. Me and my wife did mine twice (thats another story) with no problems. jonjon00 Dec 6th, 99, 2:45 PM I did the securing bolts. Its the securing the trans to the jack I'm having trouble with. I will try again tomorrow(I have a 6page paper due for english tomorrow and havent really started...The usual... Jon SSteve L Dec 6th, 99, 3:05 PM Get or make an attatchment for your floor jack with the straps to hold the tranny to it like they use for automatics. Probably still have a tough time balancing it, put it would help. Gotta love those ALUMINUM Muncies!!! ------------------ Steve 72 Chevelle SS402/4sp jonjon00 Dec 6th, 99, 5:04 PM I have a muncie 4spd, but it needs some real work done to it. SO i bought a cheap saginaw just to put it in and break in my engine. I guess I will sell both to get a good rebuilt muncie 4spd. Think thats a good trade plus a little money?? Jon DZAUTO Dec 6th, 99, 5:13 PM Some cars, such as early Vettes (or 51 Chevys which were never made to accept a 4sp) requires the tailshaft to go up and in first. This prevents you from using the guide studs until after the tranny is almost in place. Might as well go ahead and stab it then. What a B$*&h! ------------------ Tom Parsons Sid Coleman Dec 6th, 99, 8:33 PM Stupid question...if you're replacing a muncie with a saginaw...are the input shafts the same? Fine/coarse splined?? Just checking, as I hope to do the reverse swap soon. ------------------ 71 Ragtop, under construction and over budget! MCC #347, TC (Gold) #174 jonjon00 Dec 6th, 99, 9:45 PM I was hoping it would be the same(so I wouldn't have to buy a new clutch) Nope...The muncie is a 26 spline, the saginaw is a 10 spline. This is the first time I am putting the drivetrain on the car. It was easy taking off. It seems as if I have assembled, forgot something, disassembled, reassembled only find I forgot something else..It is definately a good learning experience...I just hope my next project will go alittle more smoothly... Jon DZAUTO Dec 7th, 99, 4:52 AM Sid, The 70-earlier Muncies had 10spline inputs. The 71-74 Muncies had 26spline inputs (and the larger 32spline tailshafts). ------------------ Tom Parsons jonjon00 Dec 7th, 99, 9:12 AM Thanks for clarifying DZAUTO. I guess i have a later muncie.. Jon DZAUTO Dec 7th, 99, 10:06 AM jon, If you have the 71-74 type Muncie, DON'T GET RID OF IT!! They are getting kind of scarce. What needs to be done to it? Post here, or email me. To install a fine spline in place of a course spline tranny, all that you need to do is change the clutch disk, not the whole clutch. Too easy to do. Keep that 26spline Muncie (unless it is TOTALLY trashed). ------------------ Tom Parsons | ||