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: Read before you write !


BillK
Dec 2nd, 99, 7:39 PM
Hi guys,
In order to make this tech forum even better than it already is, and to keep from confusing a lot of our members who might not be real mechanically inclined, I would like to suggest a few rules of the road for the tech forum.

1. Read the question COMPLETELY before you answer. Make sure you
understand the question. One recent example was a post for a Chevelle that would only move in first gear, but not in any other gear. There were two responses telling him to look at his "u" joints. If the car moved in first gear, the "u" joints could not possibly be the problem. The people making these suggestions only saw the heading "car wont move" and did not take the time to read the rest of the post. This wasted 2
answers and maybe even confused the guy into thinking the "u" joints could
be a problem.
Another example was on the Camaro tech site, someone asking for advice
as to how to clean a CLEAR POWDER COATED aluminum bracket. The first answer recommended bead blasting ! Duh...quick way to ruin the finish... Either the person reading the post did not pay attention to the crucial words "Powder Coated" or did not know any better.

That gets me to rule number 2.......

2. If you do not absolutely know that your answer is correct, keep it
to yourself, or research it until you have the correct answer. Bad, or
incorrect advice, is worse than none at all. If you want to offer a
guess, make sure you identify it as such, even though it would probably
be best not to say anything at all.

A lot of the individuals frequenting this site are very new to the world
of cars, especially older ones. They are trying to learn and do not need
bad information .

3. Try to describe the problem as much as possible. A post that states "my car wont start, what should I try ?" is a giant waste of time. Is the starter working ? Does it have fuel ? Is the key in the ignition ? Let us know more about the problem so we don't just have to guess at it or waste a bunch of time asking questions back and forth.

4. Do just a little bit of research on your own before using valuable
time and space on Chevelle tech. It seems like a lot of users want someone else to fix it for them without even trying themselves. A great percentage of the questions
asked here could be answered by a quick search on the internet, or
heaven forbid, a trip to the local book store to buy a service manual.

The reason I am making this post is that there are a lot of people on
Chevelle Tech, including myself, that really enjoy helping others, but it is very time
consuming. I have heard privately from several others that they are
really cutting back on the amount of time spent here because of all the
un-needed posts. I have found myself simply passing by the "Help me
-Help me" posts and trying to find the ones that have been well
researched before being posted. Lets try to keep the site a real quality
one by doing a little self examination before posting questions or
answers. It would be a shame if the people who really do know the
answers get so turned off that they stopped looking !

ALSO... please, if you need an answer and cannot figure it out, ask the question. In no way do I want to discourage anyone from using this wonderful resource that Al has provided for us. Even though I am a site moderator, these are my opinions only.

P.S. The two posts I used for examples above are fictitious ones. I was going to use a couple of real ones, but thought it better not to embarrass anyone.



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Bill Koustenis
Advanced Automotive Machine
Waldorf Md

1971 Heavy Chevy - original owner
Team Chevelle #100

marooned
Dec 2nd, 99, 8:04 PM
Ditto

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1965 Chevelle
Maroond
In the beginning...

DJRisberg
Dec 2nd, 99, 8:10 PM
Something to do before you post a question is to look at what's already here...do a search, or just browse through the last 100 days...I've answered a bunch of my own questions regarding a 700-R4 swap by just looking up old postings...Then I emailed a couple guys who were on the postings and asked if they would aswere a few specific questions for me...They did and I thanked/thank them for it.

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68 El Camino...Slow, Much Work Required
98 Z28...Fast, No Work Required
Goodfellow AFB, San Angelo, TX -- Where? That's what I said..

JWagner
Dec 2nd, 99, 8:14 PM
Bill: I agree. This site has many excellent folks who have a lot of very good information to offer. Some of the posting titles are not very good: such as "help" ; I usually skip over those. Your recommendation to be specific and detailed is right on target. Thanks for saying what I have been only tempted to say.

DZAUTO
Dec 2nd, 99, 8:35 PM
Yep, yep and yep.

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Tom Parsons

SS396ELKY
Dec 2nd, 99, 10:31 PM
BILLK,
SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT!!! SAFETY...SAFETY...
Be safe folks... I'm fairly new to your forum and just trying learn a thing or two, please give safe advice.

Is it possible to add spell check too? :)

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JR
70 396SS El Camino #'s Matching.
69 396SS Chevelle, project "Street Bruiser"
H-D Ultra Classic E-Glide
I live to own toyz...

68Malibu Blown 406
Dec 3rd, 99, 12:06 AM
Sorry Everyone for blowing it on the carburetor post.

Cardiac
Dec 3rd, 99, 3:09 AM
I think the ICQ area is where those conversations belong.
There is so much information here and the response is so quick that we often forget this is an elaborate message board.
Now if I can figure out how to set up an ICQ? http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

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Lowered '67 Elcamino
ZZ430 eng / 4L60 trans
"Canyon Carver"

drptop70ss
Dec 3rd, 99, 8:47 AM
Amen Bill and DJRisberg..sometimes I get on here and there are 2 pages of questions for just one forum, and sometimes you just dont want to answer in detail a question that has already been answered literally twenty times. Do the search, and when asking a question state what you have tried, what you know about the problem, and what you think happened so we can help. I cant even try to answer questions like "my car died, what happened?"...there are a lot of great people here with lots of knowledge, so the better the question the better the chance of an accurate answer.

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70 chevelle ss396 conv
66 chevelle ss396 hdp/conv
55 chevy prostreet

Byfield
Dec 3rd, 99, 10:39 AM
Now if we could just get people to put the "For Sale" ad's in the "For Sale" section, and the "Wanted" in the "Wanted" section, we'd be doing alright.

Kurt

CA Elky
Dec 3rd, 99, 1:09 PM
Ooh! I have one!

Punctuation please! Sometimes posts are long run-on sentences that are really hard to read. I know that I get into trouble sometimes by trying to read a post and I end up missing an important bit of information. Even an occasional carriage return would be welcome as well.



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--Amanda :)

Proud owner of a 68 ElCam

"Sometimes the only reason to get out of bed in the morning is to wear a new shirt."

Kevin
Dec 3rd, 99, 1:53 PM
Punctuation is important but also try to not be redundant (e.g. "long run-on sentences"). Just kidding Amanda.

Fred Ont canada
Dec 3rd, 99, 2:13 PM
Well said Bill.I always get a laf at the spelling and missed words.I try the be as accurate as possible, so when I need help I use Websters spelling corrector from Franklin, a handy little electronic device about the size of a credit card.As in building a car take your time and do it right,go back and read it over before you send it. And like Bill says know what you are talking about,don't try and answer something if you would not use the information your self...FRED

Kevin
Dec 3rd, 99, 3:28 PM
I think we should all chip in and get Fred some new batteries for his spelling corrector...

SoCalRat
Dec 3rd, 99, 3:43 PM
I can't wait for the "Been There, Done That" page opens up. That'll save a lot of needless posts. If they are new, just direct them there(when it's done that is). I'll admit, I am not a genius when it comes to cars. I'm just a 16 year old trying to learn the basics & some technical stuff. I do not reply to a lot of replies because I am afraid to give the wrong info to someone & then have them screw up their car. Sometimes I was right in the first place & later see the post after people answered it to confirm if I was right or not. I also have a page in Word where I copied responses from people on the site & if I see the same question later I just copy it in there & make some minor adjustments in the wording to make it a little easier. I am also taking an Auto class in school to better my skills although I don't see the resemblence of working on a lawn mower engine in coordination with a car, but if I ever find a lawnmower board I may be able to help someone. I don't think Fred was using his spell check http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif & I think the second 'the' is supposed to be the word 'to'.

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Jay W.
In-the-works 67 Malibu
surferwagons.8m.com (http://surferwagons.8m.com)

mike reeh
Dec 3rd, 99, 4:46 PM
is this an automatic or manual transmission? your right about it not being the ujoints, but the next thing id check is the reverse lights.. if they are burnt out then they will not let the car move in reverse.. maybe you need a new cap & rotor? sometimes if the car is driven too long without a tuneup, the distributor wont work in reverse rotation.. just a couple of things to check.



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Mike Reeh
Gold #34
San Diego, CA

catman
Dec 3rd, 99, 6:06 PM
Dont forget the sticky muffer bearing Mike, hate when that happens :)

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John
Catapiller Mechanic
Salinas,Ca
70SS 454 Clone {in construction}

Scooter
Dec 3rd, 99, 6:08 PM
Well said, Bill!

I'd like to add one thing:
Post in the appropriate section, and don't post it in more than one section. Ok, that was 2 things.



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70 & 1/2 RS Camaro
SB406 & M20 4spd
9" Rear
70 Malibu
SB350 & TH400

Gold Member # 103

Larry
Dec 4th, 99, 7:29 AM
Man, Bill's speech needed to be said a long time ago. Way to go.

Fred Ont canada
Dec 4th, 99, 8:39 AM
Kevin I can't help it if Mr Webster didn't know how to spell electronically,{had to look it up so I guess he did}.OH forget it...FRED

john6066
Dec 4th, 99, 9:12 AM
at risk of being redundant did someone already suggest the search engine on this site? pop in a key word and have at it.
john

elcamino72
Dec 4th, 99, 9:31 AM
We have a pretty nice search system on this page. It works pretty good. The only probelm with it is you need to use a left handed metric screwdriver to open it. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif But seriously, I spend alot of time on this site, I think that it would be alot better if people took some time to search before they wrote. I don't mind answering questions, I just don't like answering questions that have been beat to death,(ex. Front disc swaps)

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Bryan Shook
Burgettstown, Pa.
1972 El Camino
www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/6673 (http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/6673)
Favorite Quote: Some people have shrinks. Some people have their garage.