http://www.ballshotrods.com/65malibu8_21.htm

Take a look at this oh-so-obvious fake L79. This thing has so many wrong parts I lost count. I wouldn't mind so much if they just admitted it was a made up car (the body looks pretty decent) but if you are going to try to fake one, at least do it right! While I like the 69 SS wheels on this car their spec sheet lists them as factory correct wheels! They obviously haven't a clue.

For comparison to what an L79 motor SHOULD look like (or a 65 dash for that matter) just click on the link in my signature.

Any potential buyers for this kind of car: please steer way clear of this heap.

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Wow, just looking at the engines, the differences are scarry. their airfilter looks like an impala jobie and their choice of chevy orange looks like a k-mart special.

So rich I assume yours is the factory spec version? http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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Hey, not to be a braggart or a know-it-all, but my L79 is original down to the last detail. I'm such a nut for accuracy I didn't even mess with the heads when I rebuilt it other than a valve job (no porting or polishing). That would have been an easy few extra ponies and would be totally hidden to almost everyone but I'd know it had been cut. I even used a GM copy of the cam even though many cam companies offer an exact copy of it.

I install all the original equipment for bone stock shows. The only modifications I've allowed myself can be unbolted and replaced in a few hours.

I'm only the third owner of my little gem and it was terrifically maintained and kept in one piece until I got it so I carried on the tradition.

Now someday it might be fun to get a spare set of heads to P&P and to swap in some 3.73 gears.........but I'd always keep the original stuff on hand so it could be returned to original condition.

I know you are just razzing me, but I take this stuff VERY seriously. Especially when someone is trying to fake a car and take advantage of some unknowing soul. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/cool.gif

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...as well you should, Rich!!! Thanks.

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Rich, someone strike a nerve? I hope that you are bringing that georgeous car to Chevellabration this year.

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Hey Rich,
Interested in a set of original 1965 280 heads to P&P that are bone stock now? eh? http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

Dave.

Yes, I plan to make it to the 2001 Chevelleabration and to the regionals in Wichita. I hope to make it to the NCOA nationals where ever that ends up.

Kidwell: No, I have a set of spare L79 heads already (wrong casting dates for my car).

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Well at least the grill and rear cove is blacked out not like some of those nasty pro street versions that aren't!

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Hey Rich... I sell a kidney for a car in that condition, I'd even throw in part of the liver if it were a factory badass like yours.

You are one lucky lucky man.

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rich-L79:
Yes, I plan to make it to the 2001 Chevelleabration and to the regionals in Wichita.

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You mean Kansas City this year http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif
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The regionals are in KC this year!? That's even better (closer) for me. See you there!

Mark502: Man, am I never going to live down that comment? http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif And I haven't yet seen you post your car in my 64/65 thread in Bench Racing, what's up with that? (BTW: Your car WOULD look better with the proper black paint on the grill and rear cove. Bring it to Nashville or Kansas City and I'll bring a few cans of Krylon semi-gloss black spray paint and fix that right up for you.)
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[This message has been edited by Rich-L79 (edited 12-15-2000).]

Rich,
Whoops! Didn't know what you meant by the wrong heads until I read my previous message. Correction my heads are casting# 208, not 280. Fat fingered again http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif


Dave

Rich! I lost my hard drive with all my pics on it but I have now restored most of them! I always have trouble trying to post pics on this bb but I will try tonight. If I could get the car back to the meet I would take you up on that offer of the Krylon job!

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Kidwell: I meant my extra set of L79 heads have the wrong dates, not yours. Sorry for the confusion. I picked up an L79 parts car years back and got a nice 12-bolt posi, upper engine (block cracked) and other odds and ends from it. I still have the block if anyone wants it! (Could be fixed I'm told, but....)

Mark502: Let's be clear, Mark was talking about a PAINT job. Rattle, rattle, rattle! I'll be sure to pack some newspaper and masking tape. It would help if you remove all the rear trim and tail lights and go over the rear cove area with some wax remover. If you could pop the grill off too it sure would help.....! LOL! I guess I'll have to do the bezels too, huh? I'll bring LOTS of masking tape. We'd better watch this conversation or BB Dave will pipe in.

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Correct me if Im wrong (Rich) , but aren't balck SS cars supposed to have the rear cove painted silver? Balls is a couple hours from me. I thought they had a better rep than that. BTW Im not bashing. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

I think that black chevelle is plenty nice, things are gettin bad when we start bashing cars in that condition. Maybe it isnt concours, but a nice car it certainly is. I dont think Ill post any pics of my 70, I got the wrong air cleaner too http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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Bad415: Yes, black SS cars got a silver treatment to the rear cove.

Droptop: There is a WHOLE lot more wrong with that car than the wrong air cleaner. They are claiming it to be a numbers matching L79 and I'd bet my left one it is not even close. There is just too much wrong with it. Do you want a list? Here are the big items wrong with just the engine (I can make another list of the rest if you like):

-wrong air cleaner
-wrong valve covers
-wrong carb
-wrong water inlet
-wrong radiator
-wrong fuel lines
-wrong dipstick
-wrong engine labels on air cleaner (should have none)
-missing radiator shroud (L79 had a clutch fan and shroud)
-possibly wrong intake
-looks like wrong carb (lines attached look like Q-Jet not Holley)
I could go on and on. It's not just missing a few things, it's way off base.

I'm not slamming the car as being a POS, I'm slamming the dealer for claiming it is an original numbers matching car with correct equipment. Their price certainly reflects an ACCURATE truly numbers matching car, but what they have is far from being such a thing.

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And I'll bet checking casting numbers, casting dates, distributor numbers and other details that can't be assertained in photos would clearly show the thing is not an L79 car at all. Check the spec sheet they have on their site and you'll see they are making claims that the car just can't back up. And that's wrong.

Bottom line? To me it looks like an average 327 with an aluminum intake. If that's the case, they should represent it as such and adjust their price accordingly.

They have yet to respond to my e-mail concerning this car (yes, I was polite but honest).

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[This message has been edited by Rich-L79 (edited 12-15-2000).]

Get em' rich! Send them another E thanking them if they got the dollars for it, yours must be worth double and you'll send them pictures so they can acuratley build the next 65 they come accross. The sad thing is the person who purchases the car gets the beating by those who know what it should have.

There was a car advertised on eBay as a 65 SS. It had some really obvious things wrong with it like an auto colum shift and a bench seat, the rear SS cove emblem was on the wrong side of the car to name a few. I politely emailed the guy (Im sure others did too) about the obvious misrepresentation, and he promptly reworded it as a "Nice Clone". I wish peolple wouldn't do those things, but greed and or ignorance gets in the way.

Its still a nice car, and I would buy it in a second if the price was right, but it shouldnt be represented for what its not.

TECHNICALLY a 65 SS could have been ordered with a column shift, buckets delete, console delete and a bench seat. But why would someone order the SS package only to delete those items? I have seen one 64 SS convertible that was built that way and it was for real.

But you are right, that car on eBay was a sorry excuse even for a clone. A few badges don't make an SS.

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Believe it or not, the operator of the shop with the car for sale finally responded to my e-mail. He says nothing to help me believe he is just out of touch with what it is. I asked him to share the engine numbers with me so I can help him verify the thing is an authentic L79. Do you suppose he'll respond? http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif

To be clear, my original e-mail was rather to the point but hardly rude or confrontational in tone (maybe in content).

Here is his response:
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Rich, Thanks for your input! You are obviously far more knowledgeable than
I. I am just a poor, old, ignorant Hoosier trying to hustle a few old, used
cars. Have you ever considered becomming a "car lawyer"?

Seriously, what is you objective? If it is to impress me with your
knowledge, frankly, I am not sure that you know what you are talking about.
If you have any serious and sincere interest in this car, or in buying a
car, feel free to call me and I would be glad to discuss it.

By the way, I do not knowingly make "false or wild claims", or
"misrepresent" my cars, and I do not appreciate the accusations.

Respectfully,

Tom Finlinson


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Rich,

I'll bet he will share the engine numbers with you, if you'd just send him a check for $20,000.00 to cover the costs of looking them up and sending them to you http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif.

His idiotic reply is basically, 'if you're serious about buying the car I'm all ears; otherwise go to hell'. Your stereotypical used car dealer. He says, "I am just a poor, old, ignorant Hoosier trying to hustle a few old, used cars." Do you suppose he has that printed on his business cards?

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[This message has been edited by Bill Pritchard (edited 01-05-2001).]