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: LS6 Registry


70RPOLS6
Dec 30th, 00, 5:37 PM
I was wondering if anyone has done an LS6 registry? ,just thought it would be neat to see how many are left.

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MY LS6 http://www.pascale.org/Muscle_Cars/Rays_LS6/rays_ls6.html

mr70
Dec 30th, 00, 5:53 PM
Great idea Ray.I started one for 1970 L-78's and continue to add to the list.I was at a SuperChevy last year when I asked a National parts vendor how sales were going.He said he sold almost 6000 of the 450hp aircleaner decals in one year by himself.Now I know this isn't accurate,but makes you wonder how many are really beng put on real cars for resto,and how many on clones.And he is just one vendor.Unless they're traded like Beanie Babies.

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Rick Peters
1970 Red/Red Chevelle SS
L-78/M-40/4:10 Restored
ACES#175 NCOA#1670

70RPOLS6
Dec 30th, 00, 7:04 PM
Rick thanks for your repley,for your L78 registry how is it set up?is it on here? ANY ideas on how to set this would be great. Rick that is one sweet L78 you have,I look at the article in the chevelle report quite often.Thank for any Responces in advance. Ray (hope those decal aren't bringing the same $ as the beanies) http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

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MY LS6 http://www.pascale.org/Muscle_Cars/Rays_LS6/rays_ls6.html

Black LS-6
Dec 31st, 00, 11:16 AM
I have a registry of LS-6 Convertibles (< 100 built) and L-78 '70 Camaros (600 total built). For a larger registry like you are proposing you might want to use excel or a database so you can sort the data easier. You will need to keep track of which are documented cars and which are undocumented and potential fakes. With my LS-6 Convertible registry, I have come across a number of "built" cars. You will need to think about how the data may or may not be shared, many owners of very rare cars like to keep personal information confidential.

[This message has been edited by Black LS-6 (edited 12-31-2000).]

Rick_Nelson
Jan 1st, 01, 5:50 PM
I too would be interested in joining a registry for the LS-6. I have spent many hours researching anyone doing so and have not located any in existance. Hey Chris, are you busy? I have documented 4 LS-6's here in Minnesota. Interestingly enough, 3 were built within two weeks of each other on the same assembly line. These types of cars desperately need a registry, if for no other reason than to wead out the fakes!!

70RPOLS6
Jan 1st, 01, 6:25 PM
Thanks for the input BLACK LS-6(wow a 100 ls6 convertibles)quite a more than the 18 originally estimated. i planned to try to break it down by listing the documented cars and non documented cars as well as cars with/without original engines.Anyone with ideas and interested in taking part please repley or email me.Thanks in advance Ray

Black LS-6
Jan 2nd, 01, 3:00 PM
I didn't mean to say there were 100 LS-6 convertibles tried to indicate "less than 100" = <100. My guess is around 50 or so but no one really knows. I have 11 that I know are real ie. original factory docs., a couple more undocumented, and a bunch of fakes.

I have 10 or so LS-6 VINs I know are real that I will email to you.

[This message has been edited by Black LS-6 (edited 01-02-2001).]

mr70
Jan 2nd, 01, 3:08 PM
Just to add.I have 10 buildsheets for 1970 L-78 Convertibiles made.With 2 more coming.Far more then that nut here in Illinois is claiming of only 5 ever made. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/rolleyes.gifI too will not vouch for the cars today,only that the paperwork looks to be authentic.Not claiming myself to be an expert,just interested in these cars.

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Rick Peters
1970 Red/Red Chevelle SS
L-78/M-40/4:10 Restored
ACES#175 NCOA#1670

Rainer
Jan 2nd, 01, 4:15 PM
For anyone planning to put a registry together, it would be great to really think about the purpose of the registry, and what it should accomplish. Simply counting the number of real documented cars? Tallying optional equipment? Determining acceptable build dates?

Also, will the information be shared to further the hobby and the understanding of these cars, i.e., will information on the sheets be shared with others, or will it simply be a nice collection of build sheets for the registry keeper?

Finally, how can concerns about using registry information to "fake" cars be addressed? Is this a real concern? I'm sure lots of owners are paranoid about sharing their info.

Anyone know how other registries go about collecting and sharing their information?

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Rainer Seitz
Vancouver, WA
Team Chevelle Gold #50
ACES #3784

'68 SS396
'70 LS3 400 Malibu
'70 Malibu convertible 350/300hp
and the latest - '70 Malibu 454!

See them all at the all-new Rainer's Hot Rod Shop! (http://rseitz.homestead.com/main.html)
rseitz@chevelles.com

70RPOLS6
Jan 2nd, 01, 4:35 PM
Sorry Black LS-6 about the Misunderstanding about the LS6 convertibles http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gifI look forward to getting this thing started.I've never done anything like this,so any imput would be great.I'll be waiting for the 10 VIN's from you. Thanks Ray

mr70
Jan 2nd, 01, 6:29 PM
Rainer you are correct.Unfortunately my L78 registry is still in it's infancy.I am not getting as many buildsheets as I thought I would.I need more buildsheets to cross reference.My goal is to understand all the suffix codes in the buildsheet boxes relivant to the car,i.e parts used,as well as a head count of how many of those cars still exist to some extent.And share the results with all who want it for free.It is getting more difficult to get owners to send a copy of the paperwork today.No matter who you are or what club you belong to.Some are asking for money in return.This is where I draw the line.If we start paying cash for documentation,we are defeating the authenticity of the document as more will start to "Make" documentation for financial gain.I would love to share my results with this website,as it seems the real Chevelle enthusiasts are here among us.Right now I can share the Dealer Zone Codes with all and not comprimise my promise to the owners of releasing their information at the same time.But I am not giving up on this Idea.It just looks like it will take more time then I thought. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

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Rick Peters
1970 Red/Red Chevelle SS
L-78/M-40/4:10 Restored
ACES#175 NCOA#1670

70RPOLS6
Jan 3rd, 01, 4:52 PM
Rainer and everyone else who has concerns about what i was interested in doing.First my main goal was just to try to see how many of the 4475 LS6's are left.As for any documentation goes it would be used to compare parts,codes, dates,and etc.I realize that people would have concerns about sharing their documentation.By no means was i trying to recieve any paperwork to try to fake any cars.I'm not sure if there would be any was of doing this registy without proof of authentiy,I am open to any and all ideas.Thanks Ray

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MY LS6 http://www.pascale.org/Muscle_Cars/Rays_LS6/rays_ls6.html

70RPOLS6
Jan 3rd, 01, 4:53 PM
Rainer and everyone else who has concerns about what i was interested in doing.First my main goal was just to try to see how many of the 4475 LS6's are left.As for any documentation goes it would be used to compare parts,codes, dates,and etc.I realize that people would have concerns about sharing their documentation.By no means was i trying to recieve any paperwork to try to fake any cars.I'm not sure if there would be any was of doing this registy without proof of authentiy,I am open to any and all ideas.Thanks Ray

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MY LS6 http://www.pascale.org/Muscle_Cars/Rays_LS6/rays_ls6.html

70RPOLS6
Jan 3rd, 01, 4:56 PM
Don't know why my repley showed up twice :

Rainer
Jan 3rd, 01, 7:40 PM
Rick - Sorry, did not mean to suggest you didn't have good intentions with your registry - I believe you do. It would be interesting to hear how the Yenko people do the registry. Seems like everyone in that circle knows who owns which car, and who owned it before, and no one is uptight about it. Obviously the numbers are a lot smaller there.

Ray - Faking is not actually a concern of mine (heck, I've got two of my build sheets and two window stickers displayed on my website!), but I know it is a concern for some. I personally believe that there is already enough information out there to put together a fake car, so sharing a build sheet seems harmless to me. Besides, anyone can go to the shows and see the build sheets on display if they want to try to fake one.

I guess one key here would be to figure out how to "sell" the registry idea, i.e., what's in it for the owners of the cars that would make them want to share their info?

At any rate, good luck on this!

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Rainer Seitz
Vancouver, WA
Team Chevelle Gold #50
ACES #3784

'68 SS396
'70 LS3 400 Malibu
'70 Malibu convertible 350/300hp
and the latest - '70 Malibu 454!

See them all at the all-new Rainer's Hot Rod Shop! (http://rseitz.homestead.com/main.html)
rseitz@chevelles.com

richr
Jan 4th, 01, 7:00 AM
Guys,

We do have a Chevelle Registry - it too is in the infancy stages. I created the basis and Al added it to the site.

We are still collecting data, as I am aware, amongst other sorting options, we will eventually be able to sort by the L78 option and the LS6 option.

Al and I have disuccussed the cloning concern, we are not sure as of yet how the information will be made avaialable once there is enough there.

I plan on printing hard copies of the registry forms for distribution. Once filled in they can either be entered on line by the applicant or sent to an admistrator for entering.

The Registry will no doubt take years to compile, there are a lot of Chevelles out there to register.

If you haven't registered yet pls do so

here's the link
http://www.chevelles.com/registry/index.shtml

Thks

Rich



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