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: GearVendors Has Muncie Unit Coming


Gene Chas
Jun 15th, 00, 7:32 AM
Fellas, I just read over in the Corvette Forum that GV is building OD units for Muncies now. Wally, my apologies, I stand corrected. I have not confirmed this , but the info was put out by one of the forum moderators so I assume its good info.

YeeeehaaaaW! Now I've relly got something to save up for.

Damn right I'm gonna get one!
Anybody have any 4.88s for sale!!! http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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Chris396
Jun 15th, 00, 8:57 AM
Do you know how this overdrive would work? Would it be like the old honelight (sp?) overdrives that Baldwin Motion offered? I still have the 4.10's in my garage http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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Wally
Jun 15th, 00, 10:16 AM
According to my Snap On guy and several others, this unit is a Volvo truck overdrive. I'm not sure that is the case, but what you are paying for is the R&D to make the adapter. I have also heard that the floor might need some modification. I'm going to call these guys and see what I can find out.



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Bob Bryan
Jun 15th, 00, 10:16 AM
I thought they had been making OD's for Muncies all along. The nomenclature that came with mine shows pictures of installations on four speed trannys. I sure like mine; cuts those 3.90's down to 3.08's!

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Bill T SS70
Jun 15th, 00, 10:18 AM
Their web site is:
http://www.gearvendors.com/

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Gene Chas
Jun 15th, 00, 10:45 AM
Bob, definitely not. I called them directly last year as I was "hypothesizing" where I was going tranny wise and the tech distinctly told me that they had made a few Muncie prototypes a few years back and shelved the project due to the extensive mods required to the floor to run one. Thats almost a quote verbatum.

Also, the boys over at CorvetteForum will get a 10% discount. Wally if you call GV up you may want to ask them how Team Chevelle can also get a club discount of 10%, assuming Al is good with that.

Ok here is the link to their post:

www.corvetteforum.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/003246.html (http://www.corvetteforum.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/003246.html)

As I ponder this, its gonna be a pain for me, nothwithstanding the 2G purchase price. I know my new X-pipe exhaust wont cut it, etc etc. But, at least we have an option. As one of the Vette boys notes, this is not all that much different than running a Rich5. ( assume you use OD in 4th only).

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Wally
Jun 15th, 00, 10:48 AM
OK, called the guys and got the straight deal.

The unit is made by them, not a Volvo unit as I had been led to believe.

It is not yet ready for prime time, they have all the parts out being cast at the foundry.

The size if the unit is 6 1/2 inches in diameter, mounts to the trans by replacing the extension housing, the unit itself sitting about 1 inch behind your current output shaft. In most cases it will require the driveshaft to be cut 14 inches.

You can get a rough idea of size by taking a 2 1/2 pound coffee can and holding it 1 inch behind the trans.

I mentioned the floor and cutting, he said maybe denting, no cutting.

A 4.88 is a 3.87, 4.56 a 3.56. The is a 22% reduction in engine rpm at the same speed.

I'm ready, can you imagine an eight speed chevelle??A wide box and this baby would be awesome!!!

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Wally
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Gene Chas
Jun 15th, 00, 11:01 AM
I mean my impression Wally, is that you push a botton b4 you slam 2, redline, slam 2, redline, push a button, redline slam 3 etc.

Is this right? Gear splitting and all?

I guess that would be different from a rich5.

And again, I apologize for not believing you last time, I got that "no-go" info from them last year in May. He never indicated one was in the works , although I did tell the tech man that, " There are a helluva alot of Muncie cars running around out there and they sure could use an OD."

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Quadzilla
Jun 15th, 00, 11:34 AM
I still mystified as to why these things are always so hard to produce. Truck transmissions have been doing the split pattern thing for years. If some one was real smart they'd build a new unit from scratch that would take the place of a muncie physicaly and allow for say a 3(od),4(od),5(od)or 6(od)speed gear set with a wide range of ratios to meet all sorts of needs. Muncies are great transmissions but they are getting scarcer as time goes by.

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Wally
Jun 15th, 00, 4:26 PM
Quadzilla

What we need is to talk to them about the Richmond 5 speed. Now we are talking gear splitting!

They did mention one other thing, you can put a deposit on one of these babies and get management leaning into a completion schedule.

I'm going to try for a deal for Team Chevelle members. These things are not cheap, so anything we can do to help out would be a plus.

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Gene Chas
Jun 15th, 00, 8:31 PM
Wally, now I gotta figure out how to rig the reverse lock out on the stock shifter to act as an instantaneous switch. Wouldn;t that be the bonz. YeAAAAOW.

Be slick would it, slam, switch, slam with off switch, switch, slam with off switch.

Dang, can these things shift as fast as we can pull the switch, on and off?

That'd be vicious. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/eek.gif


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JCB
Jun 15th, 00, 8:33 PM
Deffinitly put me on the list for one, I've had one in a truck and they are Great!!! Please see if we as a club can get a deal.

Philip
Jun 15th, 00, 11:35 PM
I have a question, WHY?
I can see wanting to run a Muncie to keep your car all original, but at the point where you are adding the OD, shortening the drive shaft 14" (which has to affect the proper angle on the u-joints) and massaging the floor where is the originality? You are approaching the cost of sticking in a Richmond 6 speed which will have all the same benefits and maybe more. Maybe I missed something here. I also have my doubts as to the viability of using it as a gear splitter, especially under racing conditions.

Wally
Jun 16th, 00, 5:09 AM
64elcamino

Why not?

I have a shop full of Muncies, the body off the frame, the time and the dollars to do it.

I don't own a trailer queen, would not own a restored show car, been there sone that.

It's time for some fun and something different. You could do a six speed cheaper I would guess or damn near the same price.

As for drive line alignment, not a problem unless you a complete idiot.

You can't make enough power with anything you can put between the fenders to break this unit.

There is nothing stock about the 67 and the most important thing I almost forgot to mention, when someone starts paying the bills on this other than me, they can call the shots. Until that happens I will do it my way.



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Wally
www.muncie4speed.com (http://www.muncie4speed.com)
Gold #67
67 Malibu "Small Block" second owner
90 SS454
71 Malibu "Small Block"
93 torch red vette

Gene Chas
Jun 16th, 00, 7:24 AM
Gee Wally, I guess you told Phil.

Cool it might be, but I cant stomach another 2G's into the 67. My OD is buying some tall 275/60 radials for next years trip to TN. Shotys for racing, tallies for long cruising.

AdamLym
Jun 16th, 00, 9:11 AM
Gene,

What is that corvette site? Could you post the link please? We have a 1982 collectors edition vette, silver-beige metallic with the cross-fire injection. Sure isn't very fast, but that cross-fire is a cool looking setup.

steve stanbach
Jun 16th, 00, 10:10 AM
2400 bucks, gesus.

Wally
Jun 16th, 00, 10:18 AM
The Richmond 6 speed is nearly three grand. If we can work a deal on these, it should be closer to 2K.

It's just money, work a little more in the shop, sell a few more Muncies and I will be there.



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90 SS454
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93 torch red vette