ok everyone, i found a 3855962 396 short block complete.. with a fresh rebuild in it ..now the tricky part when was the cut for a casting date for the Z16 motors ..this is a D-24-5, whitch makes this a very early block april-24-1965..would this be a Z16,or just a corvette motor.. i have pictures if anyone wants too see it.. i bought it unasembled. and just put the crank rods pistons and cam in it today..its going on the block for sale so im trying to find out what it fits and what it is worth..any and all feed back would be great..thanks

Nope, Z16 blocks would have a February 1965 or very early March 1965 casting date.

I always like it when a speculator buys something up on slim evidence with hopes of turning some coins on resale.

How about an Impala 396? You need to get past the casting numbers and instead tell us the numbers/letters that are stamped, not cast, into the block.

You can always restamp it if you don't like the codes. The NCRS (National Corvette Restoration Society) has decreed that restamped blocks are no longer subject to points deduction in show/restoration competition.

Thomas

first of all, thank you rich for the info, do you have any info that i could check out about the Z16 combo? also anything on the vette and impala, if you know of any.. my info is limited back that far.. as i have never owned anything older than a 66 chevelle..now too tom, i am not a speculator!and i did not buy it on a slim chance or slim evidence.. i bought it because i have been collecting and building bbc for almost 30 yrs..yes there is a chance it is a impala 425hp..i was not douting that option.. i was more concerned with a proper build id for the Z16,since it might help someone solve the"missing engine problem".and also for the corvette, since a guy in my town owns a 65 vette with out a motor.. there is not any #s in the pad, since it was a complete rebuild with all surfaces cleaned up..also were i come from,we talk softly and carry a big E.T. ..i run on 10" d.o.t.s with a little 398bbc 3650lbs 8.80s on pump gas..we don't have to brag about it in our posts. but i guess thats what i just resorted too, because someone got my goat!! graemlins/angry.gif

You can keep your goat, probably more for it to do there than here.

...hmmm....8.80's (1/4?) in a street car - I can't touch that. How's your racing season starting out? Which track do you race at? - is it a 1/4 mile or an outlaw 1,000 ft track?

I say we lighten up and put those sticks away - I just saw a soft target when you said you just picked it up and were turning it around to sell, but you needed help in determining value. Yes, I realize that 30 years of building them might not be the same as 30 years of selling them.

I say that you should get together with Mr. '65 Vette without an engine and make a deal, unless he doesn't want the expense of a big block hood and all the other associated pieces - or maybe this is his Vette's original engine, who knows.

Otherwise just relax - you have to have some buddies that kid with you more than I just did. I can guarantee that even if all I do when my Hell Spawn engine & car first go down the strip is to melt the tires all the way down - that I'll be the one laughing the most. Personally, I enjoy monuments to automotive excess - especially excessive horsepower. So go pop a wheelie for me the next time you are racing smile.gif

Thomas
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THANK YOU THOMAS, that was a little better, sorry i snapped at you, but i see people alot on chat sits that ask Qs, and recieve snid remarks back.. thats not what these places are for. there in my opinion, for learning, and creating friendships..as for the 65 vette guy , yes his car is a bb car,intact with everything but a bb.have fun. troy graemlins/beers.gif

Its 'probably' from a Vette but if the "Vette guy" want's it, he's a long way from running with a shortblock. I've seen just the distributor for a 425 priced at $1500. Gives you some idea why he still doesn't have a motor in it :eek: Of course, he could just build it up with more modern heads, intake, carb and ignition and ENJOY the car. There are quite a few correct 396/425 Vettes for sale in the world and they don't bring near what the '67 BB cars bring. So, I say build it, drive it, enjoy it. And, save the wave graemlins/waving.gif

I have all kinds of info about the Z16 (not just the engine). Let me know what you are looking for and I can e-mail you some stuff.

Troy, I'm glad to see you have a sense of humor. I can't say that I've ever seen many replies in Team Chevelle posts that were meant to incite. At the same time this is not the Chevelle Science Channel - so a little good natured ribbing is ok.

Now, enquiring minds want to know: when are you going to share the details of your 8.80 full weight car? Please post in the Performance forum.

There are only a few here on the forum who play at that level (member 66 283 comes to mind), but I can assure you that many people would be interested in what it takes to do less than 9 second 1/4(?) miles (I still don't know what length track you race at). Especially with a "small" big block in a heavy drag car on pump gas. So do tell.

Thomas

unfortunetly it is a all steel 72 nova body with only a glass hood, not a chevelle.. {and yes, we only run 1320ft a true quarter mile}..so im not sure that anyone would want to here about it..the only real fast chevelle i built was a 509 powered 64 malibu ss that was a full bodied car, weighing in at 3500. on 9in slicks it would run 9.20s with stock rear suspension of my own make-up.there is a small pat on the back in the nov 97 hot rod when my buddy dave took runner up in the car against chuckie samuels the street racer from chicago. we also built a 55 chevy all steel EASY STREET CAR with a 427bbc that ran 9.0s. .we used too run the NMCA SUPER STREET class back in 94-95 with a 69 z28 berger camaro with a 496bbc running 9.10s on a true 10in slick. there is a picture of the car in hot rod magizine novemeber 1995 in the chassis tech section, on how to make a leaf springs hook..{the camaro was stock leafs with NO SLAPPER BARS} the plate on the car says it all"SEEYAAA"{thats a mi plate}this was when you could run those times and win..now they are in the 7sec zone..i ran my nova in the NMCA EASY STREET class,97-98-99 and some of 2000, in 1999 i ended up 4th in the world in this class..i have been in popular hotrodding feb 97 with a five page artical ..that was when we first starting running the car , we had a lot of bugs to iron out..in 98 i was in the sept issue and on the cover of the oct 98 car craft magizine, not the type of notice i like though, it was a huge bumper draging wheel stand..not cool..in 2000 we went to the first outing of the NMCA in moroso park crashing in to the wall at 1000 ft, but still quilifing 3rd for the weekend..we slowed down racing after that because my wife had a baby on the way..that is a brief history of ME.. i hope that its ok to post it here.. i did not think people would know what i was talking about if i just posted this all in the performance section out of the blue.. from now on though i will post all performance stuff there..sorry guys... oh, by the way our home track is mid-michigan motorplex in stanton, mi.

Does it have a stamping on the front pad? What is it? I'm into old vettes so maybe I can help identify it. It is a 4 bolt correct? Thanks, Scott!

no scott, it does not have the stamping any longer.. the machine shop removed it when it was worked on.. it is a 4bolt steel crank dimple rods, forged pistons big balancer..that about all i can tell you.. please ask if you have any other ideas..thanks troy

I've been a member of N.C.R.S. since 1976,If they can determine it's a restamp you will lose originality points.You have to declare it's a restamp when you register the car for judging and if some one determines the stamped characters are of a wrong style or stamped unevenly, or the grain of the linear milling marks under the stamping is incorrect, you will never attain "top flight" status. Don't restamp it, either use it or let someone else spend the big bux to restore it. P.S. The correct rectangle port heads for that engine can sell for as much as $2000.00!

i was not looking to restamp it.. i bought it to possibly resell, or even add too my colection.. its a nice piece.. if someone bought it, i would leave it up too them to do with it as they please..im kicking myself in the butt right now though, i had a set 208 casting heads, and just beat the crap out of them.. they were a 65 casting date to!! they are long gone now..what style pan came on these motors? was it the same as the newer bbc corvettes? the reason im asking is, this motor came with a vette baffled pan?thanks again scott for your info...troy

same pan you can now buy from GM. Has the windage tray for 4 bolts and no windage tray for the 2 bolt bb Vettes

Good luck with the 396 block. I was kinda hoping that you would share the details on how you got your 398 cid big block over 1,000 hp on pump gas (3,650 lb brick shaped car running 8.80's 1/4 mile). In your own words part of the Team Chevelle is "learning".

Thomas

no problem, i will post it on the hp section after i get home from work. you are persistant thomas, i will give you that! most people would have just dropped after listing my portfolio, thats verifiable..but i like that! thats how i find stuff out myself..i will list it in the hp section under 398cid so you know what to look for..seeyaaa.....troy

If the block is cast in late April 65 then there are only 3 months of 65 Corvette production left. The block would be an appropriate replacement for your friend's BB Corvette if it was built sometime after the middle of May. Noland Adams Restoration guide has some survey data with a 65 396 Corvette with the same casting date as your block. The assembly date of the engine was T0510IF and the serial number of the car was 5S117612.

I have a factory aluminum intake manifold that was cast in May of 1965. It's applications include the Z16, Corvette and the Impala. With this late of a casting date, what was it's probable use? Thanks for any info!