In the late 80s and early 90s the Chevelle Report published a report written by Fran Preve that indicated that all ED suffix 396 engines used Holley carburetors. I am curious why there would be a code EDH used if the ED code itself indicated use of the Holley carburetor. Does any one have information on the when or if EDH codes were actually used? Were most or all ED coded engines just stamped with the ED and not an H. I'm confused by the apparent redundant use of the EDH code. Does anyone have documented examples of each of these codes and if you have protectoplates, does the POP code match the actual stamped engine code? In other words, is it possible to have an engine stamped EDH but the POP only indicates ED? Thanks. Bruce

Bruce, if you can tell me honesty, and live with your reply, that you are not trying to get the answer to these questions because you are about to restamp your engine block, and want the that POP you have to back up the stamp, then maybe, just maybe,,,,I will tell you. Did you buy that Kansas stamped engine?

That's not to say, I am the only one who can give you the FACTS, but based on your other post asking similar questions about "making it numbers matching"...I have to be cautious, because, as I said in that Post...this kind of thing is BAD, very Bad, for the Hobby and there's no need for it.

Don't do it....




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The block I have came out of a 66 Caprice and has an Atlanta VIN. It is my intention to remove the original stamping and duplicate the broach marks to make this block to appear to be an unstamped service replacement. Restamping is an option I am exploring.

I don't think my motives are relevant to my search for information. The information I have requested can be used by other TC members in their effort to restore their car correctly or to help them identify incorrect components on a vehicle they may be considering purchasing. The information I have requested would be useful to help correct misinformation or incomplete information in the TC Reference section. For instance, the 1966 Reference section does not recognize the 360HP Holley intake as having been also used on 325HP engines with Holley carburetors. Bruce

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Yikes...

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>I don't think my motives are relevant<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

But they are relevant to every Chevelle enthusiast, and Chevrolet enthusiast and musclecar/classic car enthusiasts as well...

You will be trying to pass off your car as having the original engine (or a factory replacement), when it is gone...

Sure it probably wouldn't be a big deal to the collector car hobby if the original engine didn't add value, but it does...

You take any car with an original motor, and it will ALWAYS be worth more than an non-original "replacement" motor...

Even if you never sell the car, someday, someone else will own the car, and what are the chances of the new buyer knowing its a non-original restamped engine? Maybe the new buyer will know, but whats to say he doesn't resell it, making money on that "original engine".

Many people (I assume Mike and myself) believe that stamping a non-original engine is wrong... It would be a different situation if yours had the original motor, and needed to be decked for a rebuild...But that engine never came in your car, much less in a Chevelle...

Even so, most people, even most experts wouldn't know the correct factory broaching, so that is even more questionable...

Whether you are doing this to make money, or just to have a perfectly restored Chevelle, it still is fraud (literally, the VIN was stamped on the engine for theft purposes).

IMO, I think its even fraud if you put the car in any judged shows as an original engined car. You are doing something deceatful in an attempt to get some gain...

Imagine your car wins a trophy over an equally nice car, with the desiding factor being your "original" engine to the otherguys original "unstamped" engine... I would be pissed to find out someone recreated an engine and gets more points for being a fraud...

I do understand the desire to be totally correct, but once its gone, its gone...



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I am just speechless.


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Well I have a tidbit to add. I almost bought this 35 Ford frame but found out that the person selling it used the numbers on his TCI frame so the title wasnt valid. He said, hey, just change the numbers....needless to say I didn't buy it and later found that it is a FEDERAL offense on changing stamped numbers on vehicles...