Fesler or Eddie Motorsports, which would you recommend? Pictures of either installed on a 65 would be appreciated. Thanks

ems or ring brothers. im not a fan of fesler.

ems or ring brothers. im not a fan of fesler.

Ditto.

Guy has an ego bigger then Texas.

I have EMS, and I think they're great.

Well since my name is being brought up here I will jump in you guys can make your own decision on how large my head is. My name is Chris Fesler and I own Fesler Built and Fesler Billet and we make all parts in house and test fit everything a few times. We have a 15,000SF shop with over 20 cars in it. We test fit and test fit everything before we bring it to market. We are also the only company making billet hinges that are GM Licensed to sell parts under the GM name so I guess that says a little right there about who and what we do. There are a lot of companies out there trying to make parts and at the end of the day they are not all the same and the old saying goes you get what you pay for. We have the highest quality parts on the market and we use nothing but the best products to make our parts, yes we pay more for our parts to make our hinges because we want them to last for years for you guys. We are not a fly by shop that will be here for a year or two making parts we are here for the long haul. We are the only manufacture that makes most of the hinges for cars in our shops if you find them elsewhere they are a copy and a bad copy at that.

There is nothing we can do to stop people from coping parts but we will do everything in our power to make sure that each and every one of you knows that the parts we sell are the best you can buy and we stand behind what we do. We don’t give you the run around and you can look at feedback on our store to see what other people think about our parts and products. If you have a question call me up I am in the shop everyday working on new products to bring to market and will make time to talk to you. Our sales staff knows more about these parts than any other company out there so if you have questions about something we are doing call us 602-953-8944 and we would be glad to help answer your questions.


Chris Fesler
Fesler Built
602-953-8944
feslerbuilt.com

Here are some shots for you to see on a 67 Chevelle we just finished and the 65-67 Chevelle is the same hinge

1967 Chevelle SS
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj73/FeslerBuilt/1967%20Chevelle%20Red/_MG_1644.jpg

Hood hinge
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj73/FeslerBuilt/1967%20Chevelle%20Red/_MG_1512.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj73/FeslerBuilt/1967%20Chevelle%20Red/_MG_1503.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj73/FeslerBuilt/1967%20Chevelle%20Red/_MG_1501.jpg

Trunk hinge
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj73/FeslerBuilt/1967%20Chevelle%20Red/_MG_1559.jpg

Hood Latch
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj73/FeslerBuilt/1967%20Chevelle%20Red/_MG_1505.jpg

Hey Chris, how goes it? Here's pics of some hinges Fesler built for my 64.............. and that's a one year only fit I believe, but it will give you an idea how they'll look on your 65.

I loved mine, looked great, worked much smoother than the stock ones, and also opened the hood a bit further (many billet hinges reduce how far the hood opens).

Hey Jodi,

Everything is going well and we have a lot of new parts that will be coming out at SEMA along with the new GM license deal we have so things are on the up and up for parts. What car are you building now.

Hey Jodi,

Everything is going well and we have a lot of new parts that will be coming out at SEMA along with the new GM license deal we have so things are on the up and up for parts. What car are you building now.

Any chance those door panels are coming out soon? Concept pic?

Hey Jodi,

Everything is going well and we have a lot of new parts that will be coming out at SEMA along with the new GM license deal we have so things are on the up and up for parts. What car are you building now.
Some nice work there with those hindges.One question.Are they rebuildable?Mine is gona be a driver so they will get used regularly.

Chris, do you have to do any mods to the inner fender to get them to fit? Looks like the inner fender well is dimpled a little in the pictures, just cant remember if thats stock or not. Also you going to do trunk hinges for a 65? Thanks, Erik

The new 65 Hood hinges we have do not require any mods to the inner fenders. The ones on this car are our old set and we redesigned them to work with no mods now. We also have trunk hinges for the 64-72 Chevelles

Some nice work there with those hindges.One question.Are they rebuildable?Mine is gona be a driver so they will get used regularly.


We have them on a ton of cars that are drivers so you will be fine.

Chris, for the record- am a fan:yes:
You and your company are/and have been building the sickest aftermarket parts for OUR cars....(how can you not be a fan)


:beers:

how can you not be a fan

im a fan of the work, but not a fan of his internet attitude over on pt.com and lat-g.com. that may seem lame to some, but if thats all/we know, then what else are we supposed to think. he's invested a ton of money in making parts for our cars which i respect, but bashes other products as ripoffs of his. since nothing new has been created (just versions of stock products) i cant see how this bashing can benefit anyone, especially since aftermarket parts have been made since our cars were released. if his products are that good, and im not saying they arent, they will sell themselves without the paragraph above. pics and a description are all thats needed.

since the other two companies sell like products without the attached attitude, i'd rather spend my money with them.

also, i get really sick of the blanket "coming soon" statements by a lot of different companies to mark their parts as the first to hit the market. they promise parts, but those parts dont show up for months and sometimes over a year or even not at all. i waited for over 6 months for my trunk hinges to show up, even though they were "in production" when i placed my order. i cancelled after numerous excuses from the manufacture, not the dealer, and will buy somewhere else if at all.

business is hard, and i don't claim to know or want to know what it takes to run one. all i know is from my stance as a consumer.

just my .02

Tim

im a fan of the work, but not a fan of his internet attitude over on pt.com and lat-g.com. that may seem lame to some, but if thats all/we know, then what else are we supposed to think. he's invested a ton of money in making parts for our cars which i respect, but bashes other products as ripoffs of his. since nothing new has been created (just versions of stock products) i cant see how this bashing can benefit anyone, especially since aftermarket parts have been made since our cars were released. if his products are that good, and im not saying they arent, they will sell themselves without the paragraph above. pics and a description are all thats needed.

since the other two companies sell like products without the attached attitude, i'd rather spend my money with them.

also, i get really sick of the blanket "coming soon" statements by a lot of different companies to mark their parts as the first to hit the market. they promise parts, but those parts dont show up for months and sometimes over a year or even not at all. i waited for over 6 months for my trunk hinges to show up, even though they were "in production" when i placed my order. i cancelled after numerous excuses from the manufacture, not the dealer, and will buy somewhere else if at all.

business is hard, and i don't claim to know or want to know what it takes to run one. all i know is from my stance as a consumer.

just my .02

Tim


Tim so let me get this straight defending myself is bashing? I know exactly what companies you are talking about and we don’t take a 6 months or a year to make parts that is why we got in the business in the first place because we were sick and tired of waiting for parts. Now the two guys that had a couple parts still have a couple parts with a few added. I make more parts for the 69 Camaro than the other two make in total. I am sick and tired of all the people that just want to bash us for making cool parts for you guys. We do what we do because the others just talk about what they are going to make and we don’t talk we do and that is why we have so many parts.

As for your stance as a consumer you will not find better customer service than with Fesler we stand behind what we do and we use the best available products to build parts we don’t cut corners and we know what works and what doesn't. We do everything in house from design to fabrication on all parts and that is why we know what works and what doesn't. We test fit everything over and over and come out with new stuff every month not twice a year. We have over 300 parts we make and that number climbs weekly so we don’t have time to sit around and think about what to make next we just do it. If you have not learned yet I speak my mind and I don’t like people that talk crap about stuff they don’t know anything about. If you are friends with some of those guys and like those parts that’s great there is enough business for all of us and we each design stuff a little different so you have a choice. Competition is good and it's what drives us to be better.

Just like Chevy and Ford you will like one or the other and we will do our best to treat everyone the same and that is the way it is. If you don’t like me that's OK if you don’t want to buy my parts that’s cool too. I am sorry you feel the way you do but once you experience what we do you will understand what it takes to do what we do and then maybe you will appreciate what we do for all you guys. I never want to offend anyone but sometimes you can't please everyone.

Tim so let me get this straight defending myself is bashing?

defending yourself against others isnt bashing, but inserting comments into other advertisers threads is.

If you are friends with some of those guys and like those parts that’s great there is enough business for all of us and we each design stuff a little different so you have a choice. Competition is good and it's what drives us to be better.


im not friends with any of them. i just read a lot about the companies before i drop a crap load of money.

and your part about designing parts different is exactally right. if they have a set of calipers on your part, thats wrong. if they make a billet hinge that works and looks somewhat like yours more power to them. you werent the first to make a billet hinge, and you wont be the last. as long as they are quality, made here in the US is all that matters to me.

you make nice products, but let them sell themselves with pictures and customer reviews.

but let them sell themselves with pictures and customer reviews.

that being said...

Fesler or Eddie Motorsports, which would you recommend?

that being said...

well then since i wrongly brought personality into this, i'd like to step back from that and hear what makes a fesler hinge better than the rest? does one have a better bearing, hardware or a better shock, or are all of you using the same pieces to assemble? price is pretty close between the three, so what sets yours apart?

hopefully that will put us back on track.......

thanks Widowmaker hope you didnt take my comment as being rude just trying to get back on topic. And truthfully Im going to mill the name off of the hinge anyways, so Im just looking for a better quality, design or even better looking hinge. Thanks

I remember when these billet hood hinges hit these message boards, and they were made by the Ring Bros. They made them for their own projects, and then started to make them for sale.

Not that I care, but since Fesler wants to make an issue about who came first, who copied whom, etc. Are you saying you made the very first billet hood hinges?

I to would like to know why the Fesler hinges are better then the EMS and Ring Bros. hinges.

if you are a competitor in anything.= don't you think you are the best at it?
is' nt there something that all of us think we are the best at?
I know if I owed a company I would be the first to say -yes my product is better then others. why?

why , why not? because I know I put hard work into everything I do. If the product was similar -then what stands me
apart is my service's and warranty.

what came first the chicken or the egg, who gives?
and the really bashing is to people that drop name's not because they have any really
bad things to say about products of a company but because they simply don't like their personality..(lame indeed)

hope you didnt take my comment as being rude just trying to get back on topic.

not at all. i dont normally get tied up in that especially when all the info about the companies is easy to find, but my last question still stands. what exactally makes one better than another?

if you are a competitor in anything.= don't you think you are the best at it?
is' nt there something that all of us think we are the best at?
I know if I owed a company I would be the first to say -yes my product is better then others. why?

why , why not? because I know I put hard work into everything I do. If the product was similar -then what stands me
apart is my service's and warranty.

what came first the chicken or the egg, who gives?
and the really bashing is to people that drop name's not because they have any really
bad things to say about products of a company but because they simply don't like their personality..(lame indeed)

I don't believe anyone put down their product due to not liking his personality, and actually not purchasing a product becuase you're turned off by the owner isn't lame, that's one's right, and should be exercised.

"what came first the chicken or the egg, who gives?" Fesler gives, he brought it up. You know, the guy you're a fan of.

"I know if I owed a company I would be the first to say -yes my product is better then others. why? why , why not? " Some would actually want an answer.

Because Fesler made stated this; "There are a lot of companies out there trying to make parts and at the end of the day they are not all the same and the old saying goes you get what you pay for. We have the highest quality parts on the market and we use nothing but the best products to make our parts,"

So we want to know facts to back this statement up. How obserd!

not at all. i dont normally get tied up in that especially when all the info about the companies is easy to find, but my last question still stands. what exactally makes one better than another?

overall construction is very similar. Machining quality varies, finishes available will also vary. Most work about the same, and should last a very long time.

Jody

OK guys I can answer this one for you and you can call all the companies that make hinges and ask the same questions.

The facts are the facts and we pay for the best possible struts we can and they are upwards of $100 for a set but I have them hand built buy a company that can only make that part for us. They are 100% stainless steel and the nicest struts on the market. The highest quality goes into them and our return rate is less than 2% so that says something. I don't pay $10 bucks for a strut and try and sell it off to you guys as a great part. If you buy a $10 strut you can imagine how long it's going to last and how nice it is. I have dealt with all the companies that make struts and most are crap. I also pay over triple for my bearings because I want the best you can buy. I don't go buy crap from other countries and tell you you're getting the best.

With that being said I pay over $200 at my cost more than the other guys so you have a better end product. I care about my name and want to know a part I sell is the best it can be with the best finish and best parts on them. I don’t cut corners and I don’t buy crap parts and try and sell them as the best made. If I did do that I would not be where I am today because I care what is being sold under the Fesler name. Ring Brothers makes a great product and I have nothing to say about them, they do it a little different than us and don’t offer a strut like us so they can be cheaper, as for EMS we won't even go there if you don’t know his background then good luck to you. He came from the boat industry and there is a reason he isn't really make boat parts anymore and it's not the economy. I am not going to bash him I just wish he would get his own ideas and stop coping us and RB. He is doing damage to both of us and if you guys don’t care there is not much we can do about it. Just look at the quality if you know anything about bearings and struts you can pick up on it right away.

Do your research on this stuff, I never said I started this but I did say that I am here to make parts for you guys for the complete vehicle not just one part or two parts but complete packages for you guys. We are not the ones that created the pro-touring world but we did help make it better just look at the cars we build we cut no corners on anything and you get what you pay for and if you don’t like it call us up and tell us and we will fix it. We always have but for some reason that makes me a jerk or conceded because I speak my mind about things.

Think of it this way if I am such a jerk why do the following companies want to work with us and make parts for us. Fesler Brakes by Baer, Fesler Brakes by Wilwood SEMA 2010, Fesler Wheels by Asanti, Fesler suspensions by Chassisworks SEMA 2010, Fesler gauges by Livorsi SEMA 2010, Fesler SS Headers by BB Exhaust, Fesler intakes by Airaid SEMA 2010, Fesler Interior by Roadwire, Fesler Moss partnership for the Fesler Moss Camaro, GM Licensed billet parts and interiors by Fesler and many more in the works.

We are looking at the bigger picture and at the end of the day we are trying to build the best part we can for you guys for the best prices out there and that is why we have teamed up with the people we have. We can work with any company out there and we get to choose who we work with and they choose us so with the relationships we are building we are building them to better serve you so instead of bashing us or trying to start fights on message forums maybe you can just sit back and think of what it takes to accomplish just some of these things let alone all of the things we are doing. We will keep going and we will try and build better parts for better prices to help

chris, what do you guys use for your black struts and how do they differ from the stainless? is the extra $75 just for the stainless materials, or is it because they have better construction than the black ones?

chris, what do you guys use for your black struts and how do they differ from the stainless? is the extra $75 just for the stainless materials, or is it because they have better construction than the black ones?


The strut we have built for us not one you can walk into any manufacture and buy. There are many details that go into struts and our black ones are Carbon outter with every other part being identicle to the SS struts. The SS body is much more to manufacture so they cost us more but our carbon ones are still 3 times more than what the others are buying. The prices are in the materials and if you care about your parts and how long they will last then the parts matter.

Thanks for the input so far! Anybody else want to chime in before I pull the trigger on the Feslers?

(Before "pulling the trigger")

Would like to know if DSE has their billet units available now for a '65?? :confused:

They've certainly got a super nice '65 rolling product R & D car! :yes:


http://www.detroitspeed.com/productpages/indproduct/bodyprod/hood_hinges_prod.htm


Worth a phonecall. -- :thumbsup:

(Before "pulling the trigger")

Would like to know if DSE has their billet units available now for a '65?? :confused:

They've certainly got a super nice '65 rolling product R & D car! :yes:


http://www.detroitspeed.com/productpages/indproduct/bodyprod/hood_hinges_prod.htm


Worth a phonecall. -- :thumbsup:
didn't even realize they made hinges now. Im going to be calling over there anyways Im picking up a wiper motor from them next week. Im out rounding up parts before the trip to the body shop. finally:D

IIRC the dse hinges are made by ring bros. or at least they used to be.

Love the billet hinges

Well I went with the Feslers. I got them fully polished with stainless struts.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t281/eriks427/IMG_0551.jpg


how can you not like these

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t281/eriks427/IMG_0552.jpg

Those surely are sweet. Id really like to see one of these manufactures start to make billet grills for our cars. Im desperately wanting to do something different for my 67 to change the looks of the front.