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kw1162
Jul 27th, 10, 1:29 PM
Alright, enough talk. I am going to do a front end for a 70 with a cowl hood. The parts will bolt on in the stock positions and line up. Front left and right fenders and hood. Preliminarely I should be able to produce the whole kit for around 3500, maybe less if we can get enough people in. I'll do the wheel wells also if there is enough interest.
Who's in?

pist0lpete
Jul 28th, 10, 10:09 AM
I think that would be awesome to see done. Hard to see how much of a retail market there would be for it but I know the hoods would sell. I would like to do it just for the weight savings but its all relative to budget. Not to mention mine isn't a 70.

GenPac
Jul 28th, 10, 11:21 AM
Good luck! I sincerely hope your plan comes to fruition.

Beaux
Jul 28th, 10, 11:26 AM
I think if there were a serious market and it could be lucrative it would of been done already. You cannot create demand for a product, there needs to be a hole to fill AND demand. I dont see a big hole or a big enough demand but who knows (hence the 70+ views and 3 replies to the thread). Did you post this on lat-g and pro touring as well to get a better feel?

Derek69SS
Jul 28th, 10, 11:36 AM
Make it a wide-body '69 and I'm in. ;)

bikeron
Jul 28th, 10, 12:04 PM
Make it a wide-body '69 and I'm in. ;)

I'm with Derek, a 69 would be good. I would buy the hood. Might be interested in fenders also...

Ron

The WidowMaker
Jul 28th, 10, 12:18 PM
i have fenders, but inner fenders with more tire clearance and a hood would be awesome.

Slowpoke70
Jul 28th, 10, 12:54 PM
I would maybe be interested in fenders/hood if the hood is offered in a 2" camaro-style cowl, depending on price. I'm not at all interested in a 4" cowl or SS "domed" hood. Something between 2 and 3" would be ideal.

454RAT
Jul 28th, 10, 9:54 PM
I agree with Tim, inner fenders with more clearance is a plus. How bout a front spoiler, maybe something like is on the Roadster Shop's 70. I'd be interested in a 3" cowl, no 2"

Blitz
Jul 29th, 10, 12:00 AM
Deja Vu. I was just thinking about this same thing, a little bit earlier. A 70 would do me no good. And as far as the hood goes, there was a thread on that. Flat hood and more clearance on the inner fenders.

gnicholson
Jul 29th, 10, 12:05 AM
im in for my 70 racecar!!!!!

1badchevelle
Jul 29th, 10, 1:47 AM
Anvil will be out with their chevelle hood in the coming weeks. I know its been in the works for several months and should be releasing pics soon of production parts.

Chevy fan attic
Jul 29th, 10, 2:38 AM
Alright, enough talk. I am going to do a front end for a 70 with a cowl hood. The parts will bolt on in the stock positions and line up. Front left and right fenders and hood. Preliminarely I should be able to produce the whole kit for around 3500, maybe less if we can get enough people in. I'll do the wheel wells also if there is enough interest.
Who's in?

What would you guess the weight savings would be
Stock Fenders are like 25 lbs, hood 65, fender wells 15 each the piece that connects the two fenders cant think of the name 12 lbs so 160 lbs,,, what would CF weigh?

68KMENO
Jul 29th, 10, 5:28 AM
does it really matter what the weight savings are ???

didn't you see the clip last week from the 208 mph cuda ?? as the hood lifed away from the car aprox 5 + inches at speed ??? an that was with 90% of the grill opening taped shut !!!

b-man
Jul 29th, 10, 7:15 AM
Yes: interested!!!!

Blitz
Jul 29th, 10, 8:06 PM
The weight savings matter to me. I'd pick another material if it were lighter/cheaper. I'm not concerned about showing any of the raw CF...not on the Chevelle. Now if it was a _____ :D

Slowpoke70
Jul 30th, 10, 5:26 AM
I would likely still be interested in a 3" cowl, but I lose interest at 4" and definitely not interested in a flat hood :boring:

The WidowMaker
Jul 30th, 10, 11:35 PM
didn't you see the clip last week from the 208 mph cuda ?? as the hood lifed away from the car aprox 5 + inches at speed ??? an that was with 90% of the grill opening taped shut !!!


208mph is twice as fast as most are going to drive their cars. valid point though, especially since there are youtube videos of hoods failing at a much lower speed, although the materials are unknown.

kw1162
Aug 5th, 10, 1:31 AM
Hey all. I am working on getting the fenders and hood plugs for the molds for free or less than retail. The molds will cost me about 6000, but I may be able to make the parts for less than I thought. I am going to go with the 1970 and the 2" cowl hood to start with. I was thinking of deleting the side markers and keeping the fender extensions metal. My builder says the car should loose at least 20% off the weight of the sheet metal being replaced. I should be able to sell the paintable parts cheaper also, because the high gloss finish is an added process. Any other body mods can be done for less at this stage also. Any ideas?

Beaux
Aug 5th, 10, 10:40 AM
I was thinking of deleting the side markers and keeping the fender extensions metal.

I'd keep it as stock looking as possible and not start removing lights, markers, etc. Just IMO, if I were in the market for it I would want it to be as spot on stock looking as possible once painted. I personally like the side markers and woudlnt want to deal with cutting them in and all that myself because I like complete parts.

Good luck. I hope it takes off for you and its worth while. At least you would have a few done and would have yours if anything.

:thumbsup:

Slowpoke70
Aug 5th, 10, 12:28 PM
I'd keep it as stock looking as possible and not start removing lights, markers, etc. Just IMO, if I were in the market for it I would want it to be as spot on stock looking as possible once painted. I personally like the side markers and woudlnt want to deal with cutting them in and all that myself because I like complete parts.

Good luck. I hope it takes off for you and its worth while. At least you would have a few done and would have yours if anything.

:thumbsup:

I also like the idea of keeping the sidemarkers, but I can see why he would want to remove them. 1) Somewhat common in both ProStreet and ProTouring 70's to fill them or use 71-2 fenders 2) It would allow him to offer it as a marker-delete 70 and also a 71-72 fender, increasing his customer base quite a bit :D

That said, I could go either way. If the markers are kept I'll be happy. If they're deleted, I'll still be happy that CF fenders are even available!

RYU
Aug 5th, 10, 5:35 PM
What are the pros and cons between this and the FRP or fiberglass versions? I'm asking more so from a weight perspective. I know, if done right, the CF version is stronger...

I do hope this takes off for you. I can see having a full CF front end, that's affordable, become a huge plus if it does save 20% of the weight. I just can't see it saving that much over the glass versions. I hope i'm wrong.

The WidowMaker
Aug 5th, 10, 7:06 PM
i think you are headed in the right direction by doing stock panels. there are too many things that can be done to meet everyones needs. stock parts would be the best start in my opinion, even though im deleting my side markers.

oh, and paintable parts will sell really well. a lot want exposed fiber, but i think even more would want just the weight savings. 20% off the front of a heavy car is a GREAT start.

Tim

-SS454-
Aug 5th, 10, 9:22 PM
I am very interested in this. Would love to see a 70-72 SS hood WITH cowl flapper in Carbon Fiber.

Timhowdy
Aug 7th, 10, 10:11 PM
Damn it!!! Why do people have to make crap like this!! My car will never be done. Sounds too bad ass to not be a part of. Put me down as interested in a 69' set up wit 3" cowl hood. Maybe trunk lid too?? Please keep me posted.

kw1162
Feb 11th, 11, 8:57 PM
I finally found a manufacturer who will do the work, manufacture in the U.S. and meet what I think is a reasonable price point. I should be able to do stock fenders for Chevelle and El Camino applications and an SS style hood for $1600. Who's in?

bikeron
Feb 11th, 11, 9:00 PM
I finally found a manufacturer who will do the work, manufacture in the U.S. and meet what I think is a reasonable price point. I should be able to do stock fenders for Chevelle and El Camino applications and an SS style hood for $1600. Who's in?

Is this just for the 70? or is it some additional years? If there is stuff for the 69 I'm in..

Ron

kw1162
Feb 11th, 11, 9:24 PM
I am only aiming at 70 because it's what I drive, but that doesn't mean if I got a bunch of requests for 69's I wouldn't make those first. If I get enough requests, I'll start a business, why not right?

The WidowMaker
Feb 11th, 11, 9:40 PM
i have a set of steel fenders im going to use, but i would be in for a hood. i dont know if that helps you though.

Jasons 69 Chevelle
Feb 11th, 11, 10:11 PM
What would you guess the weight savings would be
Stock Fenders are like 25 lbs, hood 65, fender wells 15 each the piece that connects the two fenders cant think of the name 12 lbs so 160 lbs,,, what would CF weigh?

Stock fenders are 26.5lbs hood is 124lbs inners are 18lbs header is the part name you can not think of.
that is a total of 225lbs
Steel to CF parts will have a lot of weight savings ,but fiberglass to CF will not.

bikeron
Feb 12th, 11, 12:16 AM
I am only aiming at 70 because it's what I drive, but that doesn't mean if I got a bunch of requests for 69's I wouldn't make those first. If I get enough requests, I'll start a business, why not right?

OK, I'm completely serious about this. If I could take 150 lbs off my front end I would be very happy.
I have looked at fiberglass and have not been happy with the strength...
You can PM me with details once you get it figured out.

Ron

The WidowMaker
Feb 12th, 11, 11:37 AM
Stock fenders are 26.5lbs hood is 124lbs inners are 18lbs header is the part name you can not think of.
that is a total of 225lbs


my stock 70 chevelle hood weighs ~80 lbs. i thought it would be more.

jambb
Feb 18th, 11, 12:03 PM
Alright, enough talk. I am going to do a front end for a 70 with a cowl hood. The parts will bolt on in the stock positions and line up. Front left and right fenders and hood. Preliminarely I should be able to produce the whole kit for around 3500, maybe less if we can get enough people in. I'll do the wheel wells also if there is enough interest.
Who's in?

To much money

The WidowMaker
Feb 18th, 11, 6:25 PM
To much money


you didnt read far enough

I finally found a manufacturer who will do the work, manufacture in the U.S. and meet what I think is a reasonable price point. I should be able to do stock fenders for Chevelle and El Camino applications and an SS style hood for $1600. Who's in?

Paul-ish
Feb 19th, 11, 12:00 AM
Very interesting...although nobady's mentioned 67 parts :(