Were all COPO chevelles built in Baltimore, except the one in Fremont and the recent one owned by Roger D.?
What time period were they built? ie: 7A and later?

Were all COPO chevelles built in Baltimore, except the one in Fremont and the recent one owned by Roger D.?
What time period were they built? ie: 7A and later?

Yes, Most seem to be built in baltimore, mine was..then the one from fremont..and I think there are a couple/three from KC Including Rogers car.

Some of the Yenko cars were early I think in March..but alot of others have later dates

Did they build them in bunches like the yenko deuces? Would a 2A car be to early for a copo?

Jeff, They show first vin 347519 on detroithorsepower list here

http://www.detroithorsepower.com/forum/index.php?topic=557.0


Do you have a trim tag picture?

There can be an early COPO Chevelle but may not be a 427 COPO as the trim tag just shows special order

The Baltimore, Fremont, and KC tags are different.

Cars were batched to some degree on color in addition to option availability.

I think this is one reason Yenko used only 8 colors.

Joe
the trim tag has a B M122775 on the bottom line. Is that a normal Baltimore cowl tag # or is it a special order #?

I need to see a picture of the tag to tell more but yes B M122775 on the bottom line can be on a standard Malibu

here is a sample of a 03D BAL Malibu

Joe
the trim tag has a B M122775 on the bottom line. Is that a normal Baltimore cowl tag # or is it a special order #?

anything stamped next to the build date?

Albert
02A B M122775 is on the bottom line. The copo I had , had a DB1082 next to the build date. If I remember right it was on the build sheet somewhere also.

Albert
02A B M122775 is on the bottom line. The copo I had , had a DB1082 next to the build date. If I remember right it was on the build sheet somewhere also.
Box 60, "SPEC ORD"...the same 4 digit code will be found within the options box [107] listed next to the COPO option codes.

The 6 digit "Mxxxzzz" number is found on all Baltimore built A-bodies (chevelles/malibus, wagons, el caminos, pontiacs, etc), and seems to run sequentially with the build date.

Do all the copo chevelles have that Xtra # on the cowl tag?

I found that special order code on all the BAL 427 COPO Chevelles that I collected while researching Yenko Chevelles starting back in the 1980s.

It does not prove a 427 COPO because it is also on special order Chevelles that are not 427 cars.

This is on BAL cars but the other plants used a different special order code.
(one of the problems with ID of KAS 427 COPO Chevelles)

The 6 digit "Mxxxzzz" number is not found on all Baltimore built A-bodies. The number is there but some different prefix letters have been found to be used.

Many SS cars have been found with an "L" in this area where an M would be on a Malibu but it has been difficult to prove that all SS cars have the L or that only SS cars have the L.

I tried to research the "L" but has been problems because the SS clones corrupt the data.
There are too many SS clones and some have been SS clones for 30 years so made it difficult to get good data on the M vs L.

I found that special order code on all the BAL 427 COPO Chevelles that I collected while researching Yenko Chevelles starting back in the 1980s.

It does not prove a 427 COPO because it is also on special order Chevelles that are not 427 cars.
If the number *isn't* there you can say that it's not a 427 car, but if the number *is* there doesn't guarantee that it's a 427 car either, but it at least opens the door...for Baltimore built cars, at least.

The 6 digit "Mxxxzzz" number is not found on all Baltimore built A-bodies. The number is there but some different prefix letters have been found to be used.

You're right, I got ahead of myself...I should have said "the 6 digits are there on all Baltimore A-bodies", but the placeholder in front of it can be different...

Along with the COPO trim tag order you could look for evidence that there were no SS rear panel or fender emblems,[rear panel being much more important] and no malibu rocker trim moldings or quarter malibu emblems,that would be reserved for orig paint cars unfortunately. .

Along with the COPO trim tag order you could look for evidence that there were no SS rear panel or fender emblems,[rear panel being much more important] and no malibu rocker trim moldings or quarter malibu emblems,that would be reserved for orig paint cars unfortunately. .

What about George's yellow COPO that had the Malibu rocker moldings?:confused:

The point being is if you have a special order trim tag copo car, and it isnt an SS and doesnt have malibu rockers and name plates,you for sure have a 427 copo car. . Since many owners put SS emblems on thier 427 cars down the road , if the holes are in the back panel on a non paperwork copo, try telling a prospective buyer that the holes were added to the back panel after the fact ,he wont believe you. Just like if you tell someone you have rocker molding holes on a copo ordered trim tag car that has no paperwork,they wont believe you either ..

I hear ya!:)

Here's the COPO that I was referring to...at Barrett Jackson 2006

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/Barrett%20Jackson%202006/Friday/tn_DSCF3123.jpg


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/Barrett%20Jackson%202006/Friday/tn_DSCF3122.jpg


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/Barrett%20Jackson%202006/Tuesday/tn_DSCF2813.jpg


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/Barrett%20Jackson%202006/Tuesday/tn_DSCF2815.jpg


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/Barrett%20Jackson%202006/Tuesday/tn_DSCF2814.jpg

On the information I have, two cars were 12 apart in VINs and another two were 14 apart. None are consecutive. After all this time you would think that the restorers would realize that the COPO cars didn't have decals on the breather lid and didn't use that dog leg upper rad hose. When new, the dealer installed the SS and Corvette 427 numbers on the fenders of our car. The other two cars got the Corvette numbers added to the hood bulges and looked just the way the factory should have done them. Lots of things were done to these types of cars when new and people thought it was all factory.

Exactly, just because a car has some odd things about it, it doesnt mean they were factory installed . If you didnt just say the corvette emblems were added to your car, the next owner would have assumed it came that way from the factory. I owned 2 parchment interior copos, one had a white headliner and sail panels the other had black,and both had original interiors. Still cant explain that one.

On the information I have, two cars were 12 apart in VINs and another two were 14 apart. None are consecutive. After all this time you would think that the restorers would realize that the COPO cars didn't have decals on the breather lid and didn't use that dog leg upper rad hose. When new, the dealer installed the SS and Corvette 427 numbers on the fenders of our car. The other two cars got the Corvette numbers added to the hood bulges and looked just the way the factory should have done them. Lots of things were done to these types of cars when new and people thought it was all factory.


Good info Keith...from someone who still has theirs :)

How was your trip?

BTW, from what I remember...GL had documentation and photos showing that this car was delivered with the lower moulding when new...it was local to his area from brand new.

I could be wrong though...wouldn't be the first time:beers:

"GL had documentation and photos showing that this car was delivered with the lower moulding when new...".......... It also has Malibu script quarter emblems

Never say never when you talk about assembly line work.
There is always that odd ball car that got out with mistakes or was victim of a parts shortage.

This is the only 427 COPO Chevelle I have seen with Malibu lower trim and q-panel emblems.
It still has SS hood and SS wheels so must have looked strange going down the line.

I think the Yenko Chevelles were all ordered with black tops (optional) and black interiors but they did not all come through that way.

Never say never when you talk about assembly line work.
There is always that odd ball car that got out with mistakes or was victim of a parts shortage.

This is the only 427 COPO Chevelle I have seen with Malibu lower trim and q-panel emblems.
It still has SS hood and SS wheels so must have looked strange going down the line.

I think the Yenko Chevelles were all ordered with black tops (optional) and black interiors but they did not all come through that way.



Exactly my point Joe. Like Keith has said in the past...there were people years ago that would argue about the existance of a "factory" 427 Chevelle...LOL

Manufacturers did weird things:beers:

"GL had documentation and photos showing that this car was delivered with the lower moulding when new...".......... It also has Malibu script quarter emblems

By the way...if you are going to quote me...include the whole quote...which starts out with FROM WHAT I REMEMBER...and then states...I could be wrong...

Which happens all the time...LOL

SO I am clear...LS6...are you saying that GL's car was a made up car? If so, let's hear the reasons why you think so....if you please. I don't claim to be an expert...far from that...but I am always willing to learn new things...based on facts:thumbsup:


Here are a few more pics of the restoration photos...which shows who GL is :yes:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/zyx/xyz/GL/george1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/zyx/xyz/GL/george2.jpg


and the BJ window description...


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/zyx/xyz/GL/george3.jpg

There were other photos in a photo album in the back of the car that I didn't get pictures of...:)