70isfine
Dec 31st, 04, 3:38 PM
Ok, i did the tall spindle conversion a few years back. Haven't finished the car yet so it hasn't seen the road. The front end is something i have been putting off but its one of the last things to do now. I hate the way the upper control arm is on such an upward angle,its almost hitting the inner wheelhouse. Also never figured out the prop valve or lines yet. I'm thinking change out the tall spindles for some stockers,(will i need to change the ball joints? I think i used F-body lowers but i dont remember.and can i use my current calipers they are for 1980 f body)Then buy a line kit and a combo valve from Master Power. OR - Get the tubular control arms from Global West and the line kit and combo valve. This car is just going to be a Sunday cruiser for me and the wife,no G machine or anything. Whats the easiest way out here?
Derek69SS
Dec 31st, 04, 5:53 PM
Why not just get the pole-positions adjustable uppers, and bend your own lines???
If you are just going to Sunday cruise the car, there is really no reason to do the tall spindle upgrade... it helps with handling and better brakes... neither of which you seem to need.
I'd suggest you just put some stock upper control arms back on the car and stick with a stock set up. You will need new lower ball joints to fit the stock lower control arm. Make sure if you go to stock you get the caliper brackets with the control arms... they do bolt just bolt on, not cast in as the B-body ones.
You can use the F-body calipers... they will bolt right on, but the brake hose attachment point on the caliper is different and you won't be able to use the stock brake hoses... maybe an F-body hose?
For lines... what does the car have now? You should be able to re-use what you have if they are in decent shape. If it was a drum car, you should just need a few fittings to connect the lines to the new combo valve. Disk brakes lines should bolt right up. If you just need/want new lines, the kit is a good way to go, just make sure it's all for disk brakes.
One suggestion I have is to go ahead and put on the offset inner links in the upper control arms, even if you don't need them right now. You can always flip them over to help take up some excess shims if necessary, but sooner or later, you will probably need them on the car.
Best of luck,
Bill C.
Peter F.
Dec 31st, 04, 11:15 PM
Do you have stock disk brake spindles that are complete and ready to use that you can put on? If not, then get Spartan (http://www.westcentralauto.com/chevelle.htm) upper a-arms and leave everything else on there. Look to Ebay and you can find those same arms cheaper. You'll spend as much changing to a stock size spindle and adding the disk brakes as just buying new upper arms and keeping the swap.
You have to change upper and lower ball joints and tie rod ends to swap back to stock spindles. Then, add in whatever putting disk brakes on will cost. Unless you want to stick with drums I guess, even though I don't know why you'd want to.
Peter
70isfine
Jan 1st, 05, 12:52 PM
After a little research I think just getting the uppers would be the easiest and cheapest fix. I just didnt want to drop $500 on A-arms. Those Spartans look like the way to go. Peter i was going to buy new stock disc spindles, but i think that would be more work in the end.
Peter F.
Jan 1st, 05, 10:16 PM
Yes, I wasn't thinking and gave the link as Pole Position when the link points to Spartan A-Arms.
The Pole Position one's are completely different and they really aren't a bolt-on since you have to cut off some of the upper a-arm mount to get clearance for them. Close though. I also think no upper bump stop is provided.
Peter
70isfine
Jan 2nd, 05, 9:43 PM
Just ordered a set of Spartans.Thanks for the info that helped me make my descision. graemlins/thumbsup.gif Also going to go with the combo valve and front line kit from Master Power or Right Stuff.