I was wondering if anyone might be interested in getting something together for a group purchase for the BMR Fabrications upper/lower controls arms.

How many people might be interested?? We need 10 people to complete the transaction. For more info on past purchases check here:
http://www.chevelles.com/forum/Forum7/HTML/003380.html

[This message has been edited by ss396boy (edited 02-14-2003).]

I meant BMR....finger slipped the key :> )

Got my taxes back, Count me in this time!

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Rick
72 Malibu
98 Fatboy
T/C Gold Member #369

I'm sorry for stupid question, but what is BMR?
Steve

Yea me too ,let me know.


Thanks
George

They make and sell suspension components, More specifically rear control arms. In the past they have given discount to Team Chevelle members who participated in a group purchase.

I couldn't afford to get them last time, but If we can get a group purchase together, I'll get them this time.

Here's their web site: http://www.bmrfabrication.com/A-Body.htm


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Rick
72 Malibu
98 Fatboy
T/C Gold Member #369

Those control arms look good!!!

Anyone using these? Do they work well?

They look bullet-proof and the price is pretty good already compared to some of the others I've seen.

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71 Chevelle SS clone 454 th400 Ford 9" 395hp/435tq at the wheels
79 Z28 under construction...

Yea
I'm in!adjustable uppers
Kid

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71'Elcamino SS454

Bummer, I just bought the upper & lower METCO version with the ICM. The ICM peaked my interest. Bigger bucks than BMR brand though.
http://www.metco-inc.com/contarms.htm

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http://home.earthlink.net/~rock4449/

I missed out on the last one, but if you can talk these guys into it, I'm in for a set of lowers and adjustable uppers for my 66.

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Armando
San Gabriel, CA
66 Malibu,454,M22
57 Bel Air
95 Impala SS

Ok good, I was worried nobody responded to this message and sort of gave up.....but.... I have not bought anything yet. I'll give them a shout and see how many we need to get the group purchase. I think it was around 10 people last time.

Looks like we only have 5 people so far.

[This message has been edited by ss396boy (edited 02-13-2003).]

I'm in for lowers and adjustable uppers.

Please reply to:
efibowtie@yahoo.com

What kinda brake on the price do they give ya?10%-20%

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71'Elcamino SS454

Here is the reply from BMR:

If you can get 10 committed sales, we can go for the 15% GP discount. Let
us know if you think is feasible and if so, I will set it up on our website.

Thanks,
BMR

Looks like we have 6 people as of today. If we can find a few more people I think it's a go. See if you know anyone that would be interested in buying a set. I'll keep checking back though to see how many we have. Here is the list so far:

ss396boy
rlhelton
Mondo454
Staged67GSPWR
TonawandaKid
Bolzy(unsure????)
mugsy3000

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ss396boy:
Here is the reply from BMR:

If you can get 10 committed sales, we can go for the 15% GP discount. Let
us know if you think is feasible and if so, I will set it up on our website.

Thanks,
BMR

Looks like we have 6 people as of today. If we can find a few more people I think it's a go. See if you know anyone that would be interested in buying a set. I'll keep checking back though to see how many we have. Here is the list so far:


Bolzy(unsure????)
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

put me down for a set of lowers. i've got a 9" rear and don't think the uppers will fit correctly, judging from the pics (my mounting brackets are closer together, using rod ends for adjustables)

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71 Chevelle SS clone 468 th400 Ford 9" 395hp/435tq at the wheels
79 Z28 350 roller/under construction...

Don't quote me on this....but by MY calculations we're looking at $280.42 (plus Tax and Shipping) for Lowers and adjustable uppers! Come on guys...I think we need 3 more people...

Since I will be buying uppers AND lowers does that count as (2)??

MP

guys all i want is the adjustable uppers for 64-67.

what are the catches to this deal? will i be included in on the deal if i only order the uppers?

do they include the poly bushings?



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Brandon

1966 ss396 chevelle
427 11:1 rect.heads
4 speed 3.55 posi
1967 chevy biscayne 2 dr.
350 th-350
3.55 posi

I don't think they require you to buy both, but don't hold me to that.

He seemed like he was willing to work with us on it. So, If you only want the uppers or lowers I think that would be fine. I'll find out more and let you guys know ASAP. Looks like they come in either poly/poly or poly/rubber. For more info, read this thread about options:
http://www.chevelles.com/forum/Forum7/HTML/003380.html

[This message has been edited by ss396boy (edited 02-14-2003).]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ss396boy:
Looks like they come in either poly/poly or poly/rubber.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

is there a recommendation on which set up to run?

on my second gen camaro, it is recommended to use stock rubber on the front end (binding problems?) just wonder if there are pros/cons to each set up.

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71 Chevelle SS clone 468 th400 Ford 9" 395hp/435tq at the wheels
79 Z28 350 roller/under construction...

Guys, I am thinking about getting in on this for lowers and uppers. However, how do the BMR arms compare to the Global west with the delalum on one side and the aircraft spherical bearing on the other. Also, I was wondering is all that talk about the polyurethane bushings true---will it make my ride suck. I have a 70 coupe chevelle with a 454 that I use for street driving and I don't get on it much except for red lights and a little fun now and then. Would these arms be worth it??? They sure are a lot cheaper than the Hotchkis and Global west kits. Do they come with the mounting hardware??

BUY THEM!

We were in on the first group purchase, and they fit great, look great!

Price on the first group purchase was "GREAT"!

Still need to test them out, however, the other Team Members who were in on the first two (2) group purchases can chime in on the bushings (Poly versus Rubber).

Search the forums for any info you need on fit, etc.


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Team Members Forever #341

Richard, Judy, MAXX2

'69 Elke (Frame Off); GM HO 350/330-Mildly Ported Vortec Heads-Manley Severe Duty SS 2.02/1.60 Valves, Comp Cams Full Roller Package (Magnum)-Custom Grind CS 3315/3316 HR112-.510/.520 Lift, Edelbrock Air-Gap W/750 Performer Manual Choke-Performer 100 HP NOS, March Pulleys, 4L60 (Non Computer) W/Lokar Shifter, 12 Bolt Posi., Full Aluminum Bed With Full Tubs, Aluminum Firewall, Custom Aluminum Dash/Gauge Bezel.

Guys, all the talk sounds great but no one says how they work at all, or with poly/poly or poly rubber, anyone going to chime in with some gouge. Also, they have a note on the website that says clearancing may have to be done for some OE 12 bolt housings, what does that mean???

I bought a set of adjustable uppers for my 67 through the last group purchase. I ordered them with rubber on the frame side and poly on the rearend. The lowers are stock boxed(F41) with rubber.
The ride quality is no different than the stock arms with all rubber.
On the drivers side arm, I had to clearance about a 1/2" area at a 45° to clear the rearend differential housing.
This was on a 12 bolt. The 10 bolt is more open in this area.
Also, before you press in the drivers side bushing make sure to trim the poly ring that comes with the bushing.
I figured this out the hard way and had to press that bushing back out.
After having to make these modifications, I talked to the guys(Larry? it's been a while) at BMR told them what had to be done to make them fit. I believe others were doing the same.
So, maybe they have corrected this. You might ask next time one of you talk to them.

One last thing...Do a search of this forum on BMR. There is plenty to read, including pros & cons from people with a lot more engineering knowledge than myself.

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Rusty
1967 Chevelle SS

ss396boy,
I'm in for adjustable uppers and lowers. How many do we have now?

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ken70ss396:
ss396boy,
I'm in for adjustable uppers and lowers. How many do we have now?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think thats 8,come on two more-Kid



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71'Elcamino SS454

i believe its 9 including me.

Huevotoro buy em!! http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif

all they need is a little clearancing on the divers side upper where the control arm attaches to the differential housing. a little work on the bench grinder and your set.

Count me IN!!!!! Adjustable uppers, and some lowers!!!! I missed out last time and tried to start another one.... no-one was interested, but it looks like we've got it this time!!! Woo HOoo

Brandon

Yeah,
I didn't specify but i'll be ordering uppers and lowers so that's two for me.



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Rick
72 Malibu
98 Fatboy
T/C Gold Member #369

Hey Team Members!

Don't stop at 10!

Keep Going!


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Team Members Forever #341

Richard, Judy, MAXX2

'69 Elke (Frame Off); GM HO 350/330-Mildly Ported Vortec Heads-Manley Severe Duty SS 2.02/1.60 Valves, Comp Cams Full Roller Package (Magnum)-Custom Grind CS 3315/3316 HR112-.510/.520 Lift, Edelbrock Air-Gap W/750 Performer Manual Choke-Performer 100 HP NOS, March Pulleys, 4L60 (Non Computer) W/Lokar Shifter, 12 Bolt Posi., Full Aluminum Bed With Full Tubs, Aluminum Firewall, Custom Aluminum Dash/Gauge Bezel.

to da top

I'm curious... How do these compare to SSM's for street use? I have no need for adjustable uppers, but I'd maybe be interested in the solid uppers and lowers.

I'm in for uppers if there's still room.

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71-SS-454-4spd
Never say Never
http://hometown.aol.com/ucpglover

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DanG:
I'm in for uppers if there's still room.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yep there is still room, I'm going to send them an email to set up the Group Purchase Site. I'll post back with the link.

Guys, I have a question. I was underneath my car today and the lowers would work great for me. I noticed 2 things about the uppers though. 1. My exhaust pipes run so that they are just barely touching the sides of the uppers, are the BMR uppers thicker or thinnner than stock upper control arms 2. Also, I have some sort of no hop set up that I did not know about that moves the chunk side of my upper rear control arms up about 3 inches and also has a solid mount on the rearend side. Will that present a problem for me with the BMR arms, 1 clearance with the exhaust pipes? and 2. as far as bolting in to that no hop set up. Thanks

would the discount extend to a rear sway bar if I bought lowers and the rear bar?



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Rick Smith
72 Chevelle and a 70 Chevelle with a crushed roof, soon to be replaced.
ACES # 4051 MCC # 448
TC # 1549 81/70 Cruisers

I'm in for the adjustable uppers. Just let me know what I gotta do. bobcat@cfu.net

Ooooo, good question about the Rear Sway Bar! I'd be in for one of those too!

Hey
If 10 buyers gets 15%
Does 20 get 30%???? http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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71'Elcamino SS454

i might be interested ill do a little more research

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Troy Miller
Whiteford,Maryland
70 Nova
72 Nova
66 Chevelle

Maybe this is s a dumb question, but do the prices for the arms include bushings?

Reid

Do they come with the bushings pressed in already, or do the arms come with no bushings?

I'm pretty sure I'll jump in for a set of lower arms, but need to find out more about the bushing types...




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Ben Rambow
1970 El Camino SS (http://elcaminocentral.com/users/ahsom70/)
My old 1969 El Camino (http://www.chevelles.com/feature/july2001.html)

I already have a set, but here are some answers to some of the questions:
First, about them being thicker... yes, the metal is about 1/4" thick as compared to the stock metal of like 1/8" thick. They even come with a longer bolt for the upper end of the upper arm.
The arm come with poly bushings... I can't recall if they were installed or not, but I re-lubed them anyway. You do get your choice of color on the arms, but I think the bushings only come in red. They are actually just using the Prothane bushings...

Not sure on the no-hop compatability issues... these arms are designed to be a direct replacement to the stock arms...

Good luck,
Bill C.


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Bill C.
'71 SS (now with 467BBC)
'70 Nova 350/700r4
ACES #2780
Colo Spgs, CO

Ok guys.....

Group Purchase is on!! Start spending your money! :&gt; )
http://www.bettercart.com/store/go?s=bmr&c=4685099_94796&b=&a=NONE&n=product&product=7883

You can also call in at 813-655-3983 if you have any questions.

Jason

How do you specify what bushings you want? poly/poly or poly/rubber ?

I went into their ordering thing and didn't see any place for that....

The spherical bearing on the Global West units interests me but if the price in right ill go with the discount deal.

My order is in! http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

Mine is in,
Adjustable uppers and lowers.
Poly / rubber combo.

http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

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Rick
72 Malibu
98 Fatboy
T/C Gold Member #369

And yes, the color(s) are a "Quality" Powdercoating.


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Team Members Forever #341

Richard, Judy, MAXX2

'69 Elke (Frame Off); GM HO 350/330-Mildly Ported Vortec Heads-Manley Severe Duty SS 2.02/1.60 Valves, Comp Cams Full Roller Package (Magnum)-Custom Grind CS 3315/3316 HR112-.510/.520 Lift, Edelbrock Air-Gap W/750 Performer Manual Choke-Performer 100 HP NOS, March Pulleys, 4L60 (Non Computer) W/Lokar Shifter, 12 Bolt Posi., Full Aluminum Bed With Full Tubs, Aluminum Firewall, Custom Aluminum Dash/Gauge Bezel.

Did we find out about the sway bar?

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Rick Smith
72 Chevelle and a 70 Chevelle with a crushed roof, soon to be replaced.
ACES # 4051 MCC # 448
TC # 1549 81/70 Cruisers

Mines in!!!! Lowers and adjustable uppers.

Thanks guys!
Brandon

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Professor_SS:
Did we find out about the sway bar?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

We would need at least 10 orders, for them to consider it. Of course, we would need to send them another email to confirm it. Let me know if you have 10 people interested and I'll shoot them an email. So far, only looks like a few people want them.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AHSOM70:
How do you specify what bushings you want? poly/poly or poly/rubber ?

I went into their ordering thing and didn't see any place for that....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

is there an answer for this yet??

want to get my order in and want to ensure the proper combo af bushing!!!

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71 Chevelle SS clone 468 th400 Ford 9" 395hp/435tq at the wheels
79 Z28 350 roller/under construction...

I am calling them for sure tomorrow for uppers and lowers but would be interested in the sway bars as well.

Thanks

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bolzy:
is there an answer for this yet??

want to get my order in and want to ensure the proper combo af bushing!!!

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

hmmm...quoting myself...

anyway, there was a section to fill out for 'additional instructions' or something like that.

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71 Chevelle SS clone 468 th400 Ford 9" 395hp/435tq at the wheels
79 Z28 350 roller/under construction...

I'm game for the BMR's too, but want to know whats better, Poly/Poly or Poly Rubber?? Also I'm interested the the sway bar as my old OEM one snapped last year due to metal fatigue/mis manufacturing. How do you specify what you want other than the color and the year?? I'm gone during the day and cannot make a call till the weekend....


Rob

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'65 Maliblue 406SBC/PG TC #811
'97 HD Softtail Springer
'99 FORD Ranger Xtracab 4X4
Army Retired (Feb 02)

When you place the order, there is a spot for add'l info.

I just specified there for the poly/rubber.

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Rick
72 Malibu
98 Fatboy
T/C Gold Member #369

On the Poly/Rubber vs Poly/Poly stuff, read the FAQ on their site, they talk about it. Pretty much recommends Poly/Rubber for Street use and Poly/Poly for all out performance stuff.

I submitted my order online without specifying the bushings(I missed the extra info box on the final form, but I did see that it was there), I called them up and talked to Frank (nice guy btw) and he pulled up my order and added the note to have the poly/rubber bushings. No problem!

I can't wait to get 'em on. I'm actually considering ordering the uppers now too... Guess I'd better decide soon! http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif


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Ben Rambow
1970 El Camino SS (http://elcaminocentral.com/users/ahsom70/)
My old 1969 El Camino (http://www.chevelles.com/feature/july2001.html)

My orders in-Kid

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71'Elcamino SS454

FYI..Sent an email about the sway bars...Waiting to hear back today or tomorrow.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ss396boy:
FYI..Sent an email about the sway bars...Waiting to hear back today or tomorrow.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Are there different size sway bars available, or only one size?



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Team Members Forever #341

Richard, Judy, MAXX2

'69 Elke (Frame Off); GM HO 350/330-Mildly Ported Vortec Heads-Manley Severe Duty SS 2.02/1.60 Valves, Comp Cams Full Roller Package (Magnum)-Custom Grind CS 3315/3316 HR112-.510/.520 Lift, Edelbrock Air-Gap W/750 Performer Manual Choke-Performer 100 HP NOS, March Pulleys, 4L60 (Non Computer) W/Lokar Shifter, 12 Bolt Posi., Full Aluminum Bed With Full Tubs, Aluminum Firewall, Custom Aluminum Dash/Gauge Bezel.

I'm going to order lowers anyway, but I'm going to wait until I hear from you about the sway bar.

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Rick Smith
72 Chevelle and a 70 Chevelle with a crushed roof, soon to be replaced.
ACES # 4051 MCC # 448
TC # 1549 81/70 Cruisers

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LVMAXX:
Are there different size sway bars available, or only one size?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Direct from their website:

If you are looking for increased cornering capabilities with decreased body roll, BMR sway bars are the answer. Front bars are made from 1.25" cold formed steel to better resist torsional fatigue and retain their "memory" far longer than conventional bars. This front bar is over 400% more rigid than the stock 7/8" swaybars. Rear solid bar is a beefy 1" diameter and comes complete with new Grade 8 mounting hardware. Provided with Prothane mounting bushings and endlink kits. Available standard in your color choice of red or black powdercoat, additional colors also available by special order.

So I would say only 1 size for frt and 1 for rear.

So how many people have ordered so far? Looking at the posts I cound 5 have ordered, 3 going to order...

We Need to get a couple more folks lined up to reach the GP minimum of 10 for them to start shipping them...

http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

I just ordered, adjustable uppers and lowers.

My order for adjustable uppers and lowers is in.

I ordered lowers too.

My orders in!

Now what about those sway bars???



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'65 Maliblue 406SBC/PG TC #811
'97 HD Softtail Springer
'99 FORD Ranger Xtracab 4X4
Army Retired (Feb 02)

Just placed my order as well,lower control arms and adjustible uppers.


Thanks
George

My order was just placed,lower control arms and adjustible uppers.


Thanks
George

I completed my order, upper and lowers.

my order is in also...forgot to mention earlier

lowers only

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71 Chevelle SS clone 468 th400 Ford 9" 395hp/435tq at the wheels
79 Z28 350 roller/under construction...

[This message has been edited by Bolzy (edited 02-21-2003).]

Thats over ten I counted(11)

-Kid

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71'Elcamino SS454

My order is in as well.

There's a new thread Sway Bars. They added them to the group purchase. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

Thanks for getting these set up!

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Rick
72 Malibu
98 Fatboy
T/C Gold Member #369

order in, thanks for setting up the sway bars

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Rick Smith
72 Chevelle and a 70 Chevelle with a crushed roof, soon to be replaced.
ACES # 4051 MCC # 448
TC # 1549 81/70 Cruisers

My order is in... Adjustable rear uppers.

Thanks for starting "396boy"

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71-SS-454-4spd
Never say Never
http://hometown.aol.com/ucpglover

Thanks to ss396boy for getting this Group Purchase set up! Adding the sway bar deal was cool. Thanks again. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

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Ken
My Chevelle (http://www.geocities.com/jeffg666/CHEVELLE.html?970603130793)
ENGINE PIC (http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/ken70ss396/kenschevpic13.jpg)
ENGINEPIC1 (http://chevelles.com/showroom/ken70ss396/kenschevpic12.jpg)

We didn't see the link on their page to order the sway bars thru the group purchase.

Anyone?

We purchased the control arms (Adj. Uppers) in the first group purchase.


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Team Members Forever #341

Richard, Judy, MAXX2

'69 Elke (Frame Off); GM HO 350/330-Mildly Ported Vortec Heads-Manley Severe Duty SS 2.02/1.60 Valves, Comp Cams Full Roller Package (Magnum)-Custom Grind CS 3315/3316 HR112-.510/.520 Lift, Edelbrock Air-Gap W/750 Performer Manual Choke-Performer 100 HP NOS, March Pulleys, 4L60 (Non Computer) W/Lokar Shifter, 12 Bolt Posi., Full Aluminum Bed With Full Tubs, Aluminum Firewall, Custom Aluminum Dash/Gauge Bezel.

refer to the link to their site in the other thread about the sway bars being added.

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Rick Smith
72 Chevelle and a 70 Chevelle with a crushed roof, soon to be replaced.
ACES # 4051 MCC # 448
TC # 1549 81/70 Cruisers

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Professor_SS:
refer to the link to their site in the other thread about the sway bars being added.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

THANKS. Will Do.




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Team Members Forever #341

Richard, Judy, MAXX2

'69 Elke (Frame Off); GM HO 350/330-Mildly Ported Vortec Heads-Manley Severe Duty SS 2.02/1.60 Valves, Comp Cams Full Roller Package (Magnum)-Custom Grind CS 3315/3316 HR112-.510/.520 Lift, Edelbrock Air-Gap W/750 Performer Manual Choke-Performer 100 HP NOS, March Pulleys, 4L60 (Non Computer) W/Lokar Shifter, 12 Bolt Posi., Full Aluminum Bed With Full Tubs, Aluminum Firewall, Custom Aluminum Dash/Gauge Bezel.

so when do we actually get these?

Thanks
George

Any idea when these will ship? They got the minimum 10 orders for the Arms right?

I've been watching my credit card account online, and they have not billed it yet... (I ordered on 2/19)

Looks like the Group Purchase is over?

Originally posted by ponjohn:
Looks like the Group Purchase is over? Did you go to the site and look? If the GP is over, the items won't be available on the GP page.

They had a minimum of 10 orders, and a maximum of 25 orders... I don't think they reached 25, but i don't know how long they would hold it open for. i would assume more than 1 week.

#1, we don't get the $10 discount on the bars unless 10 are ordered????
#2, max 25 orders????? what kind of sense does that make? I'd think that any company that could tie into 50 or 500 orders would if they are only knocking off 15% and less than 10% on the bars.

It says on the original group purchase site that they will ship march 3. I'm hoping to get both that I ordered, they look like they'll work great on my 72,and look good also but I'm not going to jump through hoops to get a company to sell me anything. I can live with the boxed ones I have now and with out a rear sway bar for now.

I'm corn :confused:

Yes, I went to the gp site and clicked on GP button and it said the a-body gp is over?

Actually, this go-round, the web site said they needed a minimum of 10 orders to start shipping and would hold the GP open until March 31st or until 20 orders where received! NOT 25! Looks like they got their 20 already...

Bill C.