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: Correct air cleaner for 69 350


Chargeron
Feb 14th, 10, 10:43 PM
I currently have an open chrome top air cleaner on a 69 350. To the best of my knowledge the correct air cleaner for that year would be a black snorkle type. It doesn't look bad but I want to be as original as I can get. I've looked around at different vendors but have yet to find the correct one. I'm new here so I could be overlooking something. Thanks for the help.

von
Feb 15th, 10, 5:24 AM
Yes correct is a black snorkel type. Snorkel points toward the pass front. It has a heat stove tube opening on the bottom and the end of the snorkel is round and flared.

Woj
Feb 15th, 10, 7:47 AM
I agree with Von.

On the BB for 69 325hp, it is also a closed element air-cleaner (not the same as 350), but there is a difference between automatic and manual shift cars. That difference being the heat stove pick up for the automatics vs no pick up for the manual shift cars. I don't know if that translates to the small block or not??

Here is a picture of the air cleaner off my 69 Malibu 350/300hp automatic car. The lid should be black, but I put a chrome one on for personal preference.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii116/Woj1969/Chevellerestopix006.jpg

Woj.

Mr69
Feb 15th, 10, 7:52 AM
pm sent.
I have a correct air cleaner for you, Chargeron.

Yes the correct air cleaner for 1969 is as Von says.
The manual would not have the heat stove provision.
On my original air cleaner for my 69 Nova SS 350 L48 4 speed. It is just a plain base with no thermac door or vac switch. And no heat stove provision.

Phil, your car is nothing short of awesome.
I have a 69 L48 car, although not as well optioned as yours, it is fairly well optioned with am radio PS PDB AC tilt TH350 and 12 bolt. I've added a rear sway bar and 3 spoke comfortgrip steering wheel.
I have a complete 69 pw setup, but will probably install it in my convert.

Dave427
Feb 15th, 10, 8:33 AM
Off question my 69 sb chevelle has factory air does it suppose to have a double groove water pump pulley?

Dave

von
Feb 15th, 10, 8:35 AM
Did the manual trans 350 cars have a smog pump? What about manual trans 307?

Woj
Feb 15th, 10, 9:03 AM
Off question my 69 sb chevelle has factory air does it suppose to have a double groove water pump pulley?

Dave

If you have power steering, it should be a three-groove pulley.

Woj

Dave427
Feb 15th, 10, 9:14 AM
By your picture it looks like you have a single groove water pump pulley. I have 69 350/300 L48 car with air and PS. Yes I have a 3 groove cranlk pulley.

Dave

Woj
Feb 15th, 10, 9:26 AM
These pix will help Ron and Dave.

Woj

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii116/Woj1969/69Malibu350EngineCompartment001.jpg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii116/Woj1969/69Malibu350EngineCompartment002.jpg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii116/Woj1969/69Malibu350EngineCompartment003.jpg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii116/Woj1969/69Malibu350EngineCompartment004.jpg

Dave427
Feb 15th, 10, 9:57 AM
Thank you very much Phil.

Dave

Chargeron
Feb 15th, 10, 11:28 AM
Thanks to Woj and everyone else for their help. Ron

Mr69
Feb 16th, 10, 7:20 AM
Off question my 69 sb chevelle has factory air does it suppose to have a double groove water pump pulley?

Dave

no
single groove is correct

Mr69
Feb 16th, 10, 7:24 AM
Phil, are you sure that upper alternator bracket is correct and the negative battery cable routing is correct? I'm not saying that it isn't, just wondering if you know for sure that it is.

On the drivers side inner fender I see two vac? hoses with stripes. Where do those go to and from?

fwiw, my foam cushion on the AC hose is sitting on top of the upper alternator bracket. I think it is there to protect that hose from chaffing on the alt brkt.

Cam
Feb 16th, 10, 10:40 AM
Did the manual trans 350 cars have a smog pump? What about manual trans 307?
In 1968 & 1969, all manual transmission V8 Chevy engines, plus all open-element air cleaner V8s used the A.I.R. pump; the closed-element automatic V8s used the hot air stove & no A.I.R. pump. For 1970-72 the A.I.R. pump was replaced with the TCS system for most. During that time only the dirtiest running engines used the A.I.R. pump (L78, LS6). By 1973 everything used the A.I.R. pump, TCS, EGR...

cachevelle66
Feb 16th, 10, 11:06 AM
Woj

Question for you, someone else asked about the vacumn lines on the Lt inner fender?

Also the fuel filter set-up, what carb is on the car factory?

Does your car has some type of fuel vapor recovery system on it, and thats where the return line on filter goes to a canister on radiator support and then back to the tank via the vacumn lines on the Lt inner fender.

We also have a 69 that was purchased from the original owner and was unmolested, it was originally sold in Colorado and is now in California.

Woj
Feb 16th, 10, 2:50 PM
Phil, are you sure that upper alternator bracket is correct and the negative battery cable routing is correct? I'm not saying that it isn't, just wondering if you know for sure that it is.

On the drivers side inner fender I see two vac? hoses with stripes. Where do those go to and from?

fwiw, my foam cushion on the AC hose is sitting on top of the upper alternator bracket. I think it is there to protect that hose from chaffing on the alt brkt.

This is the correct alternator bracket for this car. My 69 Camaro with 12k miles has the same bracket with neg cable clip, same wire routing. I'm assuming it is correct. Both battery cables are original to the car. You are probably right, the ac hose cushion should be over the alternator bracket, but as it is, it is elevated above it and actually rests on the neg battery cable.

The two vacuum hoses are for vacuum power locks. There is a vacuum reservoir mounted on the forward end of the front left inner fender. Factory installed. One applies the vacuum to the cannister via a check valve, the other applies vacuum to the system which has its switching mechanism behind the glove box.

The fuel filter is correct for this car. No mounting bracket like the big block, but same GF432 filter. The small line is a return line off the filter, goes all the way back to the tank.

Hope this answers some questions.

Woj.

Mr69
Feb 17th, 10, 3:39 AM
Phil,
didn't realize your car had PDL. That is awesome. Care to post some pics of the can and location and the switches etc?
Where does the vac line hook up at the engine? At the manifold tree behind the carb?

Does your car have a power trunk release too?

Woj
Feb 17th, 10, 6:32 AM
Phil,
didn't realize your car had PDL. That is awesome. Care to post some pics of the can and location and the switches etc?
Where does the vac line hook up at the engine? At the manifold tree behind the carb?

Does your car have a power trunk release too?

I do not have a trunk release on the car. I'm surprised the original owner didn't order that, he had just about everything else.

The vacuum cannister mounts behind the washer jar and is about the size of a 1# can of coffee. It will be difficult to photograph, but I'll give it a try this weekend. I'm pretty sure the vacuum hooks up off the back of the intake with everything else.

Woj

Mr69
Feb 18th, 10, 11:41 PM
So the manifold vac tee would have a large port for the power brakes, another small port opposite that for the transmission modulator, another small port for the vac can for the AC controls and then another port??? for the pdl can?

I know I have one with 3 ports, but I don't know if I've seen one with 4 ports. Is there an inline T on one of the other vac lines, like the trans line or the AC vac can line? I'd really love to see a picture of that configuration.