I have seen on a few forums that S-10 front suspension parts can enterchange w/chevelle's. what i'm wanting to do is put BIGGER BRAKES on my s-10 suspension that I'm going to use under my long wheelbase 48 Burb. I have read some of the past topics BUT there is just to much info & it get confusing. SOOOOOO can any of you folks help out this grey haired, beer belly street rodder????
What do I need to do this swap, so I can have at least 12 inch rotors & still run my 15 inch ralley wheels, cause I know a few others on different forums that could use this info also..thanks in advance...joe graemlins/waving.gif http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CT/JoesGarage.gif

Just a question. Why not start a 70-81 camaro front clip? you get a better geometry suspension than the S-10. You can bolt on the 12" spindles from the b-car and not have to use an upper arm to "correct the geometry".
You can buy an upper a-arm to use the 12" b car spindle on you S-10 clip.
The Camaro clip would have correct geomerty. If you had a Camaro parts car you also would get an 8.5" diff. that is better than the 7.5 under a S-10.

Because using a S10 frame all I have to do is make it longer, clipping it would be harder & then I have to worry about the Camaro clip being able to hold the wieght.The stock truck frame is 2x thicker than a s10 frame & wieghs about 750-1000 lbs more. Also I'm using a ford 9inch rearend under it.
Who sells this A-arm thats you're talking about. I'm wanting to have all my info before I buy parts so I do it once. Someone else also told me I could use mid 80's full size Gm spindle w/upper control arm then use a 1LE Camaro rotor, looks like more BoneYard time..thanks for the info & if anyone else has ideas, let me know.....thanks,joe

The camaro frame is worth the work. The s-10 frame is weaker. The other frame to consider is the 73-77 GM A-body Malibu etc. I have seen many of the Camaro clips installed that use the orig frame rails back. Global West makes the stronger conversion arms the cost around $550

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The mid 80's B Body spindle swap is feasable. You can use aftermarket upper control arms from www.globalwest.net (http://www.globalwest.net) or www.hotchkis.net (http://www.hotchkis.net) . OR you can use stock Chevelle upper control arms. Check this thread: http://www.chevelles.com/forum/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=33;t=000037 Question is, will the chevelle/aftermarket upper C/A bolt into the S-10 frame?

If you go hunting thru the boneyard, check for 12" rotors on caprice & roadmaster station wagons from 86-90. Post 86 spindles are a bit stronger & lighter.

Also I used 87 B-body spindles, 1LE rotors & the GW upper arms. As a result, my track increased about 3/4 inch and the front end dropped about 1 1/2 inch. Finally I am using 7 x 15" ralleys with 12" spindle and don't have any problems.

There is a ton of stuff on this swap in the disc brake archive (bottom of the home page) or do a search in this forum.. Have fun.

Slo307 I hate to disagree w/you BUT the camaro frame is just about if not the same thinkness of a S10 frame. The s10 frame is right at 1/8 inch thick where as the 48 Burb frame is 1/4 inch thick , heck an Izusu truck frame in thinker than a Camaro's or an S10 & uses torsion bars and my 84 full size burbs frame is just about 1/32 thicker than the S10 frame.
When the frame is done it will be completely boxed in, front front to back.
OOOOOOOO I'd love to use the Camaro front suspension but for the above reasons I wont & like I said, all I have to do is cut it in half & add 31 inches. If this was a 1/2 ton frame rather than a 1 ton frame I would think about using camaro suspension.

Thanks for the info...anyone else??????.........joe

I have the B body 12" discs on my Chevelle. I love them. I used the Hotchkis A-arms up top. I would think the handeling and such of a Camaro Nova clip would far out weigh the benefits of using an S-10 frame. I know what you are saying about using it but the Camaro and Nova stuff have a huge variety of options the S10's don't.

What I would think would be cool is to find an all wheel drive Astro Van and use that chassis. Similar to the 4X4 S10 but having all 4 tires grab would be so sweet. Especially with a potent mouse powering it. Think about the Cyclone and Typhoon. I think they used that set up and chassis.

You should be able to get some fatter sway bars and bigger brakes for the S10. Check the truck sources.

Post some pics if you can sound like an interesting project. I'm next to Champaign, IL your probably 4 hours from me I't make the trip some day to see it.

CLINT (Who just finished the New Global West Group Purchase), has a friend in Texas, Ken Walker, who swears by S-10 Brake Conversions for Chevelles. We'll find his telephone number and post it on this site.

We haven't spent much time on the S-10 Conversion, however, we already have the S-10 Superior 2" Dropped Spindles (THEY ARE BUILT!!!!!).

Having said that, we felt the newer design Global West Front Control Arms seem to be "Beefier" than others, however, we decided to go a different route.

The highly recommended Certified Welder who fabricated our CERTIFIED NHRA/SCTA/USFRA 200 MPH PLUS Morrison 12/14 Point Rollcage is reinforcing our stock control arms, and he honestly states that they will be as strong as "Anything And Everything".

We won't end up with the tall spindle conversion(s) as mentioned on this site, as it definitely has become a 50/50 Pro/Con Subject By Team Members On This Website.

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If this was a 1/2 ton frame rather than a 1 ton frame I would think about using camaro suspension TooMany2Count,

I'm confused, I wasn't aware that GM built a 1-ton S-10 truck. Would you please educate me on this subject. graemlins/clonk.gif

Thank you,
Elmo

yep elmo you are confused,

The s10 frame is right at 1/8 inch thick where as the 48 Burb frame is 1/4 inch thick the 48 BURB/PANEL(its an old railraod truck) is a one ton truck & with the frame being 2x thicker that an S10 & a camaro frame. BUT the difference bewteen a 1/2 ton & a 1 ton burb/panel is about 1000 lbs & of that there's only 45 lbs difference in TRUE BODY WEIGHT the rest is mostly frame.


LVMAXX :CLINT (Who just finished the New Global West Group Purchase), has a friend in Texas, Ken Walker.

We haven't spent much time on the S-10 Conversion, however, we already have the S-10 Superior 2" Dropped Spindles (THEY ARE BUILT!!!!!).I wished someone would just make a spindle for the S-10's that would use a 11-12 inch rotor, because it would make this so much easier...joe