http://www.chevelles.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=35163
OPINIONS WANTED..BE TRUTHFUL, IM A BIG BOY, I CAN HADLE IT!!!:yes:

http://www.chevelles.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=35163
OPINIONS WANTED..BE TRUTHFUL, IM A BIG BOY, I CAN HADLE IT!!!:yes:
looks nice...
you list "tried to stay original" but looks rodded.. maybe loose one and list it as restomoded..
also at 22k people are picky, u got a built sheet,,
I don't care if it's a build sheet correct, but some do..
the 17" rims are not doing that car any favors..
good luck..
it's winter and no ones got cash..

I noticed that you advertise it as a Super Sport, and don't mention until the end of the ad that it has a 136 VIN , almost like you are hoping people won't notice (my opinion). You need to be upfront with the fact that the car is a clone. It appears to be a very nice car, so don't be afraid to put the fact that it is a clone, tribute, in the title.

ok here goes. sit down

you advertise it as an SS, it is not.
Change the listing to a clone or tribute or something else, but don't advertise it as an SS when it is not. People get turned off by deceptive advertising.

Change out the valve covers to stock chrome.
Install power booster. It's not hard.
Get up to date pictures. Your pictures show dates over 6 years old.
Would make anyone think what's it actually look like today???
And take the pictures at a green grassy park or somewhere other than on the hoist.

Install power steering.

Get a stock radiator cover on there somehow.

List it on ebay with tons of pictures.

Your price as is is good IMO.

If you make all of these changes, and list on ebay, put a $26,500 reserve.

looks nice...
You list "tried to stay original" but looks rodded.. Maybe loose one and list it as restomoded..
Also at 22k people are picky, u got a built sheet,,
i don't care if it's a build sheet correct, but some do..
The 17" rims are not doing that car any favors..
Good luck..
It's winter and no ones got cash..thanks for your insight!( I CHANGED IT TO RESTO MOD)
im not willing to change the rims(more money)

i noticed that you advertise it as a super sport, and don't mention until the end of the ad that it has a 136 vin , almost like you are hoping people won't notice (my opinion). You need to be upfront with the fact that the car is a clone. It appears to be a very nice car, so don't be afraid to put the fact that it is a clone, tribute, in the title.thank you for your input, i changed the wording to tribute...

ok here goes. sit down

you advertise it as an SS, it is not.
Change the listing to a clone or tribute or something else, but don't advertise it as an SS when it is not. People get turned off by deceptive advertising.

Change out the valve covers to stock chrome.
Install power booster. It's not hard.
Get up to date pictures. Your pictures show dates over 6 years old.
Would make anyone think what's it actually look like today???
And take the pictures at a green grassy park or somewhere other than on the hoist.

Install power steering.

Get a stock radiator cover on there somehow.

List it on ebay with tons of pictures.

Your price as is is good IMO.

If you make all of these changes, and list on ebay, put a $26,500 reserve.

I think Nate has some good pointers here^^^^^^^

ok here goes. Sit down

you advertise it as an ss, it is not.
Change the listing to a clone or tribute or something else, but don't advertise it as an ss when it is not. People get turned off by deceptive advertising.

Change out the valve covers to stock chrome.
Install power booster. It's not hard.
Get up to date pictures. Your pictures show dates over 6 years old.
Would make anyone think what's it actually look like today???
And take the pictures at a green grassy park or somewhere other than on the hoist.

Install power steering.

Get a stock radiator cover on there somehow.

List it on ebay with tons of pictures.

Your price as is is good imo.

If you make all of these changes, and list on ebay, put a $26,500 reserve.
ok..i did change it to a tribute.
Ill think on the v.covers but im not sure that will make a big difference as these dont look hidious.
The reason why i went with no ps and no pb is because thats how they were back in the day(true muscle did not have power options) but i see your point, make it everyone's flavor..
The rad cover i cant do nothing with??
i will re shoot the pics..duh!! good idea!!

Well here is a good reference point. Last year when times were better I sold a 136 67SS replica much like yours. It was set up with blue/blue, buckets with the rare 67 headrests, PS, PDB,PW, A/C (factory), 454, TH 400, redlines, and so much more. It was an older resto that needed nothing and was a drop dead duplicate of the Ertl die cast. The only real visible non SS things were the grill and stereo system.

The car brings $22K. Be awfully careful of how many upgrades you do as the return on investment may not be there. Honestly I think you are close to all the money even if these things are done.

Sparky,
Nice looking car. I think you should wait and take it to the spring rod run in Pigeon Forge, Peachstate Chevelle Show 1st weekend of May, or another large show and put a for sale sign on it.
These are hard times. Everyone wants a deal if they can afford to get one at all.
Hope you can hold on to it for awhile.
Winter time is a terrible time to sell also.
You need more pic's...underneath, interior, trunk, etc.
Best of luck, neighbor. You live on the other side of the mountains from me.

Beautiful car but I would not buy it because:

1. Automatic
2. No power steering
3. Clone
4. Price


I have been in the Chevelle market for a few months and just purchased a 1969.

The market is a lot tougher now and has not bottomed out yet. You will probably have to get the price down in the teens to attract a buyer in my opinion.

Good luck with the sale
Steve

1. FAKE
2. Too expensive for a fake
3. No PS/PB
4. Wheels too large

You are selling it too cheap. A price that is too low will make some wonder why. Take alot of pictures, post it on Ebay and be honest about it being a clone. You should be able to pull 25k for that car easily if it is as nice as it looks in the photos. Don't buy into the "bad economy" crap. These cars are still bringing good money. Good luck

i have to tell you, that is a really nice looking car. who knows what hits somebody. a while back i had a 63 fairlane, beautiful little ride, women loved it, because of the obnoxious red interior. had a fairly hard time selling the ride, so sfter thinking i was going to be the permanent owner, i started doing a few things, dual exhaust, and wrong year wheels, and all of a sudden it was a hot item and sold for way more than my investment...

You know the title of this thread is Why is my car not selling. It is not because it is too cheap. If that was the case there would be a line of people with a checkbook in their hand. Until it is proven that this car will bring the asking price plus adds the people that say it is at or above all the money will remain right.

Keep in mind there are a lot of people in this country that make a living selling collector cars. If this car is back of the money $1000 or more you would not own it. There has been someone from NC talking about the big money a car like that is bringing in your area. I would like to see this car used as an example. Then I will be a believer. Until then........

I stopped reading the add after the first sentence.
-Don't use all caps
-Spell check the add before you post
-Ditch all those parentheses

It doesn't sound like much but that add is very hard to read with all the caps and punctuation going on.

Great looking chevelle. I don't care if it's a clone or not, I'm more interested in the build quality. There's no reason in the world a car like that won't sell,,question is what's the number? Right here and now,, I'd say ur priced about right, with the expectation you probably will have to settle for around $20K.

Changes to the add/car:

1.Maybe PS and PB, you might not get the money back, but it could make the difference in getting a sale.
2. Address the rust issue, tell me in the add how you dealt with it both on the body and frame.

Good luck !

I think if you take some good pics of the car (off the lift) on a sunny day outside you would get more interest in it.

I have my 69 Camaro for sale on racingjunk, I run my ads for 1 or 2 weeks at a time and when I re post the ads I put different pics in the new ads. Every time I change the pics in the ads I get more calls on it. I took about 60 pics of the car from different angles and I even pulled a 8' ladder out and took some off the top of that.

I host a bunch of pics on one of those photo sites like photobucket or picassa. that way people don't have to ask you for pics. Post very close-up & detailed pics of everything. I alway's shoot pics of bottoms of doors (crimp area) trunk floors etc. I agree it's a nice looking car but when you get over 20K you deal with a different kind of buyer. You know better than us what you need o get out of the car. $19,500 would get that car a lot of play. I sold a lot of cars this past year. People are buying cars. take the E-bay advice. I list cars on there and really don't expect to sell them through the auction process but for the listing price you can't beat the exposure.

Take it to Moultrie Ga. swap meet first weekend in Febuary. We sold one car and traded one car last November there.

Bill, we talked on the phone back in the fall about your chevelle. here are my reasons for not buying your car. remember you told me this was a good driver! when i was 20-30 years old it was ok if a car didn't have power steering or power brakes. now i won't buy a car with out them. i also want a car to have some good power which your car does not have. It doesn't matter to me if a car is a clone or not, but it must be done right and Fresh build for me to buy it. I felt that if i bought your car by the time i added PS< PB and put some real power in it i would have well over 30,000 in this car. you were very up front with me and i wish you the best on your sale.

You know the title of this thread is Why is my car not selling. It is not because it is too cheap. If that was the case there would be a line of people with a checkbook in their hand. Until it is proven that this car will bring the asking price plus adds the people that say it is at or above all the money will remain right.

Keep in mind there are a lot of people in this country that make a living selling collector cars. If this car is back of the money $1000 or more you would not own it. There has been someone from NC talking about the big money a car like that is bringing in your area. I would like to see this car used as an example. Then I will be a believer. Until then........

Thank you,John. :yes:Amen

i stopped reading the add after the first sentence.
-don't use all caps
-spell check the add before you post
-ditch all those parentheses

it doesn't sound like much but that add is very hard to read with all the caps and punctuation going on.thanks for your input!

bill, we talked on the phone back in the fall about your chevelle. Here are my reasons for not buying your car. Remember you told me this was a good driver! When i was 20-30 years old it was ok if a car didn't have power steering or power brakes. Now i won't buy a car with out them. I also want a car to have some good power which your car does not have. It doesn't matter to me if a car is a clone or not, but it must be done right and fresh build for me to buy it. I felt that if i bought your car by the time i added ps< pb and put some real power in it i would have well over 30,000 in this car. You were very up front with me and i wish you the best on your sale.thanks bill, i do remember talking to you..thanks for the kind words!!..thats it, im putting a f2 procharger on it!! Hahaha

Guys, i appreciate all of your honest comments hence i have owned this chevelle for a while and im not a buyer or trader of cars like some are so i need a lil polishing from the experts.. So thank you for all the suggestions so far(some of them)!!

-Spell check the add before you post
It doesn't sound like much but that add is very hard to read with all the caps and punctuation going on.
Speaking of spell check, it's "ad".
The all caps is annoying and I quit reading half way through as well. No PS/ PB keeps me away. I like the wheels and color.

Well, you know what they say about opinions... I'll throw mine in too though.

I'm NOT a Chevelle freak or purist. I love these cars though. I'm more of a Ford guy but I got my 68 Chevelle because I wanted to try something different. I tell you this so that you know the source of the opinion and also know that I'm not going to be a "stock paint and rally wheels is the only way I'd buy a car" kind of guy.

First, I agree with a lot of the comments about the syntax of your ad. Often times spelling errors or random punctuation make it seem more like the person selling the car is not very organized or with it. It makes me wonder if they took as little time restoring the car as they did proofreading their ad. Since it seems like most of those issues have been resolved I will move on to the car.

Don't change the wheels!! They are awesome and classic. Anybody can find a Chevelle with 15" Rally wheels on it. Most people who are buying a car like this understand the aftermarket and will probably say to themselves, "Hey, i don't like those wheels but I can probably sell those easily and stick my Rally wheels on there." I don't mind the valve covers either, but that is an easy change if you want to do it. You need to get some pictures that are from this month and get some out in the nice pretty sun. When I see a car that is in the garage and for sale it seems like the seller has just lost interest in it and is wanting to offload their project onto someone else. When I see a car photographed like that I automatically assume there is probably some underlying problem that the seller doesn't want to deal with and I will go in with a low low offer since he probably just needs to get it out of his way. Also, show a pic or two of the underside. We all know that a paint job and an engine detailing will make a car LOOK nice, but it could be a rusty crusty mess with a tux on. PROVE to your buyers that they WANT, no NEED this car. If the underside of the car doesn't look like $22k then your car isn't worth 22K. My car has some surface rust under it and has an ugly, but functioning, floor and trunk repair. It works, but when I go to sell it I will not be asking more than $14k for it because of that. Interior pics would sell it better too. Interiors are easy enough to restore, but I think a lot of people really find it to be a hassle and will be less likely to buy a car with interior repairs needed. Show me the seats and carpet to let me know its as nice as the outside looks. Also, know your audience. When I go to sell my car one day, I won't be advertising on Team Chevelle. This is a great place for tech and advice and I love this site. However, most people on here are purists, or at least are not into modernized/resto-mod kind of cars. There are a few, but most love a big block with 15" wheels and stock bucket seats. My car will have none of that. Ebay will get you the best results and depending on your area, Craigslist.org will give you good results too. That is where I have bought and sold my last 4 cars.

Hope something from this posting is useful to you. Good luck with your sell. If you really feel like you HAVE to get rid of your wheels, I'll trade you my Rally wheels and tires straight up! They're all good with very little miles on them. That way you've spent no money.
-Zach

I sold a bit lesser but similar car for $9000 last fall.an original bucket,console.275hp,327 car........FYI.

I say keep the car until this funky recession cycles out. Everyone will be buying like crazy when the green flows. Enjoy the beautiful car and wait a few years.

All the normal buyers are really antsy to buy right now but are scared. Just wait until they feel comfortable again and cars will fly out the door at bigger prices than ever.

By the way, the rims look great on it and the valve covers are cool too. And ya, I remember when no one with a hot car had power anything.

Its not selling because it is January!

It will sell much better in April and May.

Take it to Moultrie Ga. swap meet first weekend in Febuary. We sold one car and traded one car last November there.


How is the Moultrie in Feb, I usually go the other one later in the year? I am gonna bring down a few cars, but that 7 hour drive kills me.

Tommy

Here's my opinion, and it's merely that...my opinion....

First impressions mean alot, and although you'll find some Chevelle enthusiasts who like 17",18", and even 20" wheels, most of us are turned off by a car as soon as we see anything bigger than 15" wheels on any old American muscle car. IMO, it just doesn't mix. that's just me, but I am certainly not alone in that viewpoint. Unless you have 13" brake rotors on that thing which prevents you from mounting 15" wheels and tires, I'd get them 17 inchers off there if I were you.

Other than that, I think it's a great looking car, ad that $22K is very reasonable if it's a good build. For me personally, I would also be looking for something with more power, but usualy more HP costs more $$ too. Most high HP cars that are quality builds cost a whole lot mroe than $22K. BTW, I really didn't catch the price tag in the ad. In fact, I thought it said that you're asking $40K for it since it lists a 67 Chevelle for $40 at the bottom. Could that be the reason why it hasn't sold? I merely got the $22K price tag from someone else's post here in this thread.

I wouldn't of even put it up for sale with those pictures.

IMO, It would of been sold by now if you would of marketed it better. You dug yourself a hole to get out of now.

Seriously, one side picture of the car being blocked by a lift?

How is the Moultrie in Feb, I usually go the other one later in the year? I am gonna bring down a few cars, but that 7 hour drive kills me.

Tommy
The weather will dictate the turnout but last November there were more cars,venders and people than I've ever seen there.We will be taking seven cars to sell.

I think, that based on the current economy, it is priced too high. I am not saying that the car isn't worth it, just saying that people are still holding on to the money.

It probably got more hits and interest from this post in the Forum than it did in the classifieds.

IMO.. and I was blasted for suggesting this about someone else selling their 66 CLONE car in the classifieds here and still listed..... it is or was.. the lack of making it CLEAR it is a CLONE/TRIBUTE and wondering how far they may have taken the CLONE to appear as a Real SS... it leaves a bad taste in many people's mouths when they have to Search an ad to discover the fine print saying TRIBUTE... ads they say 66 or 67 SS Chevelle in the subject line but then later you find out are CLONES.. doesn't leave me feeling confident in the seller. Sorry, but the question was asked...I will also add that when I see descriptions that say how CORRECT their Clone is.. it makes me want to know exactly how far they went to make it appear as a Super Sport? Just stuff that goes through my head...
and obviously terrible photos and bad ad copy ... you can't sell a used washer and dryer with bad ad copy and photos.. ;)

Mike as you have touched on it , I will take it a little further. For me the word Clone is the most abused word we can have in this hobby. In every other sector it represents a true and exact copy of something else. In this hobby it can be anything from a few emblems to a car a lot of people cannot tell the difference. Because of this people are paying the real money for real cars.

2 years ago $20-25K was not hard to get because of the fever to buy a car and a good economy. Now it is big time money for people looking for very common cars. We have seen quite a few cars bring good money because they were taken to the next level with correctness, attention to detail, and build quality. There are still people that will pay big money for a non SS car but it better be right.

I feel the market is continuing to adjust itself. Cars like this are going to continue to be more difficult to move in a $20-25k price range. People building these cars are going to have to make a decision to do it right or find some place to stop the bleeding because one thing is a given, build costs are not coming down. The build cost recovery % will always be less.

I say keep the car until this funky recession cycles out. Everyone will be buying like crazy when the green flows. Enjoy the beautiful car and wait a few years.

All the normal buyers are really antsy to buy right now but are scared. Just wait until they feel comfortable again and cars will fly out the door at bigger prices than ever.

By the way, the rims look great on it and the valve covers are cool too. And ya, I remember when no one with a hot car had power anything.THANKS DAVE, REAL MUSCLE CARS HAD NO POWER ANYTHING BACK IN THE DAY, I KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE NEUTRAL WHEN SELLING A CAR BUT A LEAST I DONT HAVE MY NAME IN THE SEATS OR BO-TIE'S IN THE DOOR PANELS:yes:

How is the Moultrie in Feb, I usually go the other one later in the year? I am gonna bring down a few cars, but that 7 hour drive kills me.

TommyIM NOT SURE BUT I WOULD LIKE TO CHECK IT OUT!:yes:THANKS FOR THE IDEA!:thumbsup:

i wouldn't of even put it up for sale with those pictures.

Imo, it would of been sold by now if you would of marketed it better. You dug yourself a hole to get out of now.

Seriously, one side picture of the car being blocked by a lift?thanks for the input, but the day i posted them, the weather was bad down here.. I will re-do the photo's

It probably got more hits and interest from this post in the Forum than it did in the classifieds.

IMO.. and I was blasted for suggesting this about someone else selling their 66 CLONE car in the classifieds here and still listed..... it is or was.. the lack of making it CLEAR it is a CLONE/TRIBUTE and wondering how far they may have taken the CLONE to appear as a Real SS... it leaves a bad taste in many people's mouths when they have to Search an ad to discover the fine print saying TRIBUTE... ads they say 66 or 67 SS Chevelle in the subject line but then later you find out are CLONES.. doesn't leave me feeling confident in the seller. Sorry, but the question was asked...I will also add that when I see descriptions that say how CORRECT their Clone is.. it makes me want to know exactly how far they went to make it appear as a Super Sport? Just stuff that goes through my head...
and obviously terrible photos and bad ad copy ... you can't sell a used washer and dryer with bad ad copy and photos.. ;)MIKE, THANKS FOR YOUR HONESTY..:yes:

Well Bill you have certainly been given a lot to digest. Now as you proceed along what will your answer be if you are shown 200 $100 bills and you have not invested another dime.

Great looking car, clone or not you are in the price range if its as nice as it looks. Is this the only site you have the car listed?. I would try, other sites as in Cars on-line, Racing Junk and Ebay. Not everyone out there are worried about clones vs. number matching, there are still alot of people that want a great looking car to cruise in thats reliable, you just have to be up front from the start.

Get better picture for sure. and Good luck

Try the AutoFair in April in Charlotte. Get a track position and see what kinda hits you get there. I think the April show has the most people to attend a car event in our area, you will find no other place to get more looks and offers. Nice looking car as well!

Willie

Well Bill you have certainly been given a lot to digest. Now as you proceed along what will your answer be if you are shown 200 $100 bills and you have not invested another dime.TEMPTING FOR SURE, BUT IM NOT DESPERATE, YET!! HAHA..I HAVE REWORDED THE AD NOW I HAVE TO RE-DO THE PICS ..THANKS FOR THE TEASE!!:yes:

Great looking car, clone or not you are in the price range if its as nice as it looks. Is this the only site you have the car listed?. I would try, other sites as in Cars on-line, Racing Junk and Ebay. Not everyone out there are worried about clones vs. number matching, there are still alot of people that want a great looking car to cruise in thats reliable, you just have to be up front from the start.

Get better picture for sure. and Good luckTHANKS FOR THE IDEAS..AND YES TEAM CHEVELLE IS THE ONLY PLACE I HAVE IT LISTED.. I HAVENT BRANHCED OUT YET.. BUT I WILL, THANKS AGAIN FOR THE IDEAS:beers:

Try the AutoFair in April in Charlotte. Get a track position and see what kinda hits you get there. I think the April show has the most people to attend a car event in our area, you will find no other place to get more looks and offers. Nice looking car as well!

WillieTHANKS WILLIE, I WILL SEE YOU THERE ,IF I STILL HAVE HER:beers:

to pay 22k for a clone when u can spend another 5-10k for a true SS is not attractive to a buyer. Also sometimes builders think they can get back money on their own labor, maybe w/ a SS but not w/ a clone. Unfortunately Clones are worth what the market brings no matter what u put in to it. No offense intended here. Just going by past experiences as a buyer and seller.

Your not to far from Myrtle Beach, SC Try RUN TO THE SUN March 18,19,20, $ 35 entry fee almost 2500 cars their last year and a bunch had for sale signs on them. 15 of us from my club are going from Columbia for the event. Lots of great stuff waiting for new owners.
Great looking Car
from what i See
If I didn't have two cars I show and two project waiting and a wife that wants a 50s restomod truck I'd come up and look.
I agree with some the wheels do nothing for me.
Red Red everyone paints resale red,
Black or some shade of tan/gold or silver JMHO

good luck