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: whats my 70 worth?


mcfadyen72
Jan 17th, 10, 12:44 AM
rundown on the chevelle.
this car isn't perfect but it's a daily driver.
70 chevelle, originally a malibu, built in windsor, canada. original colour was gold with a brown top, not sure of the original engine.
dark green with white rally stripes.
new black vinyl top
paint looks great.
one small quarter sized rust spot on the bottom of the drivers door, one crack in the paint on the rear drivers quarter from something in the trunk hitting it.
underbelly of car is basically untouched but has no rust through
paint was done approx. 7 years ago. All new lower metal was put in.
the rear bumper is from a 71 chevelle, but i always liked the look of them better so i haven't been quick to change it. i do have tailights ready to go for a 70 bumper.
454 motor from a 74 caprice, edelbrock carb, manifold, headers and electronic ignition. the motor is a little tired, one cylinder is low.
b&m black diamond rachet shifter, TH400 auto trans, 12-bolt rear, 2.73 gears.
20" american racing rims in rear, 18" in front, nitto invo tires.
original rally rims available with proper centrecaps and trim rings.
i also have some of the SS emblems but have not put them on yet.
let me know what you think guys

mcfadyen72
Jan 17th, 10, 2:21 PM
ballpark estimates? anyone?
my guess is 12-15k

704EVER
Jan 17th, 10, 2:31 PM
Nice car but hard to guess with only 1 picture. With today's economy you just never know.

AmericanMuscle
Jan 17th, 10, 2:33 PM
Is the interior of the car black or green? Does it have a bench seat or buckets? I see that you have the blacked out SS grille, SS hood and stripes-does it have an SS round pod dash or the standard Malibu sweep dash? All of these things will affect the value of the car.

Also, a few more (closer) pictures of the car wouldn't hurt.:D

bigskycountry
Jan 17th, 10, 3:42 PM
9-11k base on your description. You wont come close to 15k in this market with a tired engine, a car that will need some bodywork in the future,a dark green color, and a 71 bumper. Looks like a nice car though. :thumbsup:

DougA
Jan 17th, 10, 4:14 PM
Didn't know they built Chevelles in Windsor.

Luke
Jan 17th, 10, 4:32 PM
Don't take any advice from here everybody wants to buy cheap, you know what you have in the car and what you would like out of it i'm sure, that should be your starting point for feeling out the market. Who ever gave pricing input, post a picture of your car and tell us what you think it is worth even if its not forsale.

bigskycountry
Jan 17th, 10, 4:53 PM
Don't take any advice from here everybody wants to buy cheap, you know what you have in the car and what you would like out of it i'm sure, that should be your starting point for feeling out the market. Who ever gave pricing input, post a picture of your car and tell us what you think it is worth even if its not forsale.

Dont know what your so upset about, the forum is called whats is worth. He posted a pic and a brief description, and wanted opionions. I have bought and sold 3 Chevelles in the past 2yrs, and sold them through various marketing avenues.Two of them were restored by yours truly. How about you? How many have you sold,recently? I also check the markets daily on several forums. I am not looking to buy cheap, but know what its like to have to sell cheap in this market. If you think that this is the same market as 2006, you my friend are in for a rude awakening when you try to sell. No one has insulted his ride, just offered numbers. Hopefully when he does have to sell it will bring more.

Tommya77
Jan 17th, 10, 5:45 PM
I would buy it for 12k right now. Turn around and sell it for over 20k easy lol. I notice a lot of price quotes here are real low. I have 3 67 ss and have sold 4 last year alone. Best advice if you want to sell it, start out high, you can always come down. You just can't go back up.

Tommy

Luke
Jan 17th, 10, 5:56 PM
not upset at all. i guess tommy said it better then i price hi you can always come down.
you never know what something is worth until it sells.

Tommya77
Jan 17th, 10, 6:15 PM
Good looking car btw. I go to sales every week and sometimes twice. They are bringing good money with or without build sheets. Good luck if you go to sell it.


Plus you can have a 74 block and build the piss out of it, a lot of power is in the heads anyways.
Tommy

DougA
Jan 17th, 10, 7:20 PM
I would buy it for 12k right now. Turn around and sell it for over 20k easy lol. I notice a lot of price quotes here are real low. I have 3 67 ss and have sold 4 last year alone. Best advice if you want to sell it, start out high, you can always come down. You just can't go back up.

Tommy

Not trying to be smart,but are you serious when you said you could sell that for 20k easy?

Tommya77
Jan 17th, 10, 8:01 PM
I am being dead serious. For some reason at the sales regardless of a true ss or not they are bringing good money. Makes no sense, but that is the way it has been. I saw a built up 70 malibu go for 37k this past week at tom mack's auction.

Tommya77
Jan 17th, 10, 8:03 PM
Also wasn't there some sort of strike and chevelles were built up in Canada for a little while?

DougA
Jan 17th, 10, 10:16 PM
They were built in Oshawa,On,but not because of any strike.Were building them their for the Canadian market mostly.I don't know where he came up with Windsor.I guess I should bring my Chevelle down to your part of the world and sell it.:)

Tommya77
Jan 17th, 10, 11:12 PM
2007 United Auto Workers strike

Main article: 2007 General Motors strike On September 24, 2007 General Motors workers represented by the United Auto Workers union went on the first nationwide strike against GM since 1970. The ripple effect of the strike reached into Canada the following day as two car assembly plants and a transmission facility were forced to close. Overnight a tentative agreement was reached, however, and UAW officials declared the end of the strike in a news conference at 4 a.m. on September 26. By the following day, all GM workers in both countries were back to work.

Tommya77
Jan 17th, 10, 11:14 PM
If you want to sell, it would be a good idea to get out of the rust up there and bring it down to southern car shows. You don't know how many times I have to hear either southern,Arizona,Texas, or California car lol.

70's are selling well now.

DougA
Jan 17th, 10, 11:47 PM
I believe the 1970 strike was towards the end of the year and effected the 1971 models only.

mcfadyen72
Jan 18th, 10, 12:06 AM
hey, last time i checked the VIn i thought it was windsor, could have been oshawa.
the interior is redone with new carpet, recovered seats and leather buckets with SS emblems from a cobalt SS, the interior colour is black.
the gauges are the sweeps.
nobody is offending me with what they think it's worth so chill.
the car is in saskatoon, sk, canada and the thing is there are no others for sale around so it's hard to figure out a price.
here's a few more pics

Tommya77
Jan 18th, 10, 12:23 AM
Great looking car. It will make you some money when you go to sell it.

Tommy

Chris R
Jan 18th, 10, 1:22 AM
Im not a big fan of those wheels personally but I have seen comparable cars in the 15K range.

Bisquit037
Jan 18th, 10, 5:51 AM
I would buy it for 12k right now. Turn around and sell it for over 20k easy lol. I notice a lot of price quotes here are real low. I have 3 67 ss and have sold 4 last year alone. Best advice if you want to sell it, start out high, you can always come down. You just can't go back up.

Tommy

I have to agree. There are too many "bad economy" surfers around here. The economy is recovering and has not really stopped as many from buying cars as some would like you to think. Let's think positive! Good luck

JodysTransmissions
Jan 18th, 10, 7:33 AM
Why do you have a '71-'72 rear bumper on your '70?

crazytaz
Jan 18th, 10, 8:49 AM
nice car.
the tire454 will take away from the price, but the new owner can build it to their liking..
the rims;; not a fan but easy fix...
pick a price that you think your area will pay.. and offer it up..
didn't matter what it might go for.. if your happy with getting a $number..thats all that matters.. we can say it'll go for this and that.. but,, we're nothing more that tire kickers..
the guy in your driveway.. with cash in hand.. set price.. and you can say yes or no..
the guy with cash will want it for less than your asking..
just don't give it away..

mcfadyen72
Jan 18th, 10, 9:46 AM
like i said in my original post, it came with it on. i like the 71 bumper better because it matches the two round headlights of the front better. so i haven't been quick to change it.

Tommya77
Jan 18th, 10, 9:50 AM
Everyone here has a point in one way or the other. Don't worry to much about the bumper. I just saw a 74 nova with a 72 front and rear sell for 22k lol. You just got to find that one guy, and that was the car he got his first piece in, and he will pay anything to recapture that moment.

Tommy

Remember what I said, you can always set the price high. You can always come down, just can't go back up.

Greg
Jan 18th, 10, 10:50 AM
I saw a built up 70 malibu go for 37k this past week at tom mack's auction.

Tom Mack used to be in the Charlotte area, I didn't know he was still around.
That must have been a really nice build quality '70 Malibu.




The economy is recovering and has not really stopped as many from buying cars as some would like you to think.

Very true.
The unemployment rate in the country is around 10%.
That's pretty high, but conversely, the majority of the people in the country are still working and not participating in the recession.

Regards,
-Greg

Tommya77
Jan 18th, 10, 6:43 PM
Yea Tom Mack is still out of Charlotte area. It was an excellent chevelle for 37k I bid 35 and backed off. Had hotchkiss everything, build 454, insane pro touring car, guy had reciepts of 60k.

But, I go to auctions damn near weekly, and I am speaking from my point of view about prices. A good clone at these auctions will fetch good money. Car resalers dont give a damn if it is true ss or not, they buy it to turn it asap, and make 500 dollars up to 3k profit and move on to the next. I buy cars to store and some to resale.

I can get 2 real nice 70 chevelle's no build sheets, one with a 454, one with a 396 for around 40k in trade value. Turn around and make 5k.

Long story short, no one knows everything, but cars are still selling, but not just any old car, has to be a desirable one.

Tommy

PS please dont use BJ and Mecum as your base for prices, most the people there are rich dummies who just want to show off.

Bunz-T
Jan 18th, 10, 8:22 PM
If you can turn those two 70's for a $5k profit why don't you own 'em already and give us a shot at them?

Tommya77
Jan 18th, 10, 8:30 PM
First off I am going to get the guy lower. I am working a trade for a 67ss and a newer car. Not like I am making up what they are selling for.

http://www.tommackclassics.com/auction/182/182.htm

sold for 37k, atleast that was the final bid.

Tommy

FiredUp396
Jan 18th, 10, 8:54 PM
Something that isn't being said from Mcfadyen is that we in Sask Canada are not in a reccession.Not to brag but our city is booming we are the fastest growing city in Canada.The market for this car is not slumping I have seen his car many times at different sites and also cars that are for sale here.His car is one of the nicest I have seen forsale I am surprized he is selling it I feel he could get atleast 19-20K.I would keep it if I was him it is only going to grow in value.Slowly build it up the way you want it.Your choice I guess just my 2 cents.

Bunz-T
Jan 19th, 10, 7:12 AM
Not like I am making up what they are selling for.



Tommy I am not questioning your statement to fact but we are not comparing apples to apples. You are using a car with over $60k in the build bringing $37K and the car here is a very common car that needs a good deal of work. There is a lot of interest in the better cars at $30K + but the majority of them are selling back of 2 years ago money and way back of build cost also. Cars like we are discussing here are the absolute hardest to get moved.

I just do not feel that a guy that gets $37K and has to take a 40% or more hickey to get there represents a strong market.

Tommya77
Jan 19th, 10, 10:39 AM
I know for a fact his car will sell for more than 15k down here. It's all a matter of opinion. I am going off of what I see in person weekly.

Tommya77
Jan 19th, 10, 10:39 AM
Also if you stay under 20k it is easy to move them. That is what the market here wants, cars under 20k.

Tommy

andrew T
Jan 19th, 10, 11:24 AM
Hey OP

I am in Toronto and have been looking for a chevelle for almost 2 years now.

Listen to me, these guys don't know the Canadian prices:p. I think your car could easily start at 17k, and sell for 15k.

In the States the cars go for MUCH cheaper. In Canada, for some odd reason, old cars in general go for ridiculously high prices. The fact your car is a 70 and has a 12 bolt are big cool points, though I am not sure about how many guys want that bumper on their 70. Also, don't know how skilled you are, but you could patch up the pinholes PROPERLY yourself before you sell, it would help matters greatly IMO.

Just my opinion. Take it or leave, good luck with the sale!