: 66-67 Cowl Plenum
Luis Jan 10th, 10, 7:19 PM http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cowl-Plenum-Air-Cleaner-66-67-68-Camaro-Chevelle-Intake_W0QQitemZ260530864911QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMot ors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3ca8d9830 f
Wondering if it will hit $2K.
Raven1 Jan 10th, 10, 7:46 PM It's not in good shape and has been cut. It's already high. Perhaps the biddeers do not know others are available.
http://webpages.charter.net/nelsonrudisill/nkrproducts/products.htm
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190355700863&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Luis Jan 10th, 10, 8:03 PM Testimonials come from the 66-67 Gurus regarding the repo ones.:thumbsup:
SuperNovaSS Jan 15th, 10, 1:02 AM I have been a member for a long time but only check in from time to time. This is my part. Raven1, are you really comparing a repro part to an original? They are night and day. Especially when is comes to an important/special part such as this one. Yes, it has been cut and repaired. Most racing parts have, that's why there are not many left. Maybe you are right, the reserve was not met. If it does not sell, I will save it for my Chevelle. Last I checked they are not making any more original ones.
I am all for the aftermarket ones. It makes it somewhat affordable for guys to add a part they want to their hot rod. Since they are fiberglass, it would be tough to pass them as original.
Thanks,
Jason
floyd66 Jan 15th, 10, 3:32 AM Jason I was interested in your auction, it is a very cool part.
The adapter from the firewall to the air cleaner doesn't look like other 66 Chevelle ones I have seen. It is a little more narrow at the firewall side. Are you sure this is a Chevelle type?
Not trying to be an ass, just asking for info.
SuperNovaSS Jan 15th, 10, 10:27 AM Floyd,
From what I have been told by Ebayers, it looks like the air cleaner itself is Chevelle and the platic duct is Camaro. I think someone was using this Chevelle unit on a Camaro at some point.
Jason:beers:
jeffschevelle Jan 16th, 10, 4:44 PM Raven1, are you really comparing a repro part to an original? They are night and day. Especially when is comes to an important/special part such as this one.
Since they are fiberglass, it would be tough to pass them as original.
Nelson Rudisill makes a correct reproduction of the Chevelle cowl plenum unit, with metal aircleaner base and lid (as per original) and fiberglass duct (as per original), and includes the rubber seal.
I too always prefer original parts, but Nelson's repro is so good that it definitely has deflated the value of most original cowl plenums (all except NOS or "mint" originals).
1966_L78 Jan 17th, 10, 3:18 AM I have been a member for a long time but only check in from time to time. This is my part. Raven1, are you really comparing a repro part to an original? They are night and day. Especially when is comes to an important/special part such as this one. Yes, it has been cut and repaired. Most racing parts have, that's why there are not many left. Maybe you are right, the reserve was not met. If it does not sell, I will save it for my Chevelle. Last I checked they are not making any more original ones.
I am all for the aftermarket ones. It makes it somewhat affordable for guys to add a part they want to their hot rod. Since they are fiberglass, it would be tough to pass them as original.
Thanks,
Jason
Jason,
One recently sold on here, under $1000, correct, original "Chevelle" cowl Plenum but missing the duct. The ducts are available reproduction...
As for comparing "reproduction" with original,
Check out:
http://webpages.charter.net/nelsonru...s/products.htm
These are NOT fiberglass, they are steel. They have been compared by many Chevelle experts on this site (even compared side-by-side with originals, both used and NOS) and they compared favorably, and actually, IIRC they were acturally a little nicer finish that "original"...
And they are NO "affordable" alternative to the hot rodder. they are more for the restorer. There are cheaper versions out there.
I think the biggest issue, are the modifications... NOS and un-modifieds were (are still) worth alot of money ( but not really what they were a year or two ago), but once you get into modified/broken/or pieces-missing setup, the value drops off quickly...
Perhaps the economy has something to do with it too, but prices are just down...
jfkheat Jan 17th, 10, 9:51 AM Jason always has some nice and hard to find parts listed on Ebay. I have never seen anything bad posted about any of his stuff. Some of you guys might want to add him to your Ebay watch list.
James
66CHEVELLE138 Jan 17th, 10, 10:48 AM If you would not put a reserve on it it would have probally brought what you want. Funny how it has been working that way lately. But I would probally have put a reserve on it to, afraid to take the chance. I see you do not have a reserve on your 66-67 am/fm radio. I bet it will bring alot more before the auction ends. I just don't understand ebay anymore. I list stuff once and a while. I've had a item that I thought would bring good money and had 42 people watching it, and it didn't bring as much as a item I had listed that I figured would bring less. The lesser item brought more and I only had about 10 people watching. Lot of tire kickers. I have a bunch of NOS parts I need to list, afraid to as if I put reserves on them it costs more and usually do not sell. I list them without the reserve I may not get what I want. And if I list them for the bare min of what I want I usually don't get any bids. Everyone wants to bid on 99 cent auction. With 30 seconds to go. I had a guy e-mail me all pissed off because I had a item selling that didn't have a bid until the last minute, and this bidder got outbid with 10 seconds to go. He offered me more money if I would sell it to him instead of the high bidder!!! I did not. I told him that if he wanted it he should have placed a higher bid.
Raven1 Jan 17th, 10, 11:40 AM I have been a member for a long time but only check in from time to time. This is my part. Raven1, are you really comparing a repro part to an original? They are night and day. Especially when is comes to an important/special part such as this one. Yes, it has been cut and repaired. Most racing parts have, that's why there are not many left. Maybe you are right, the reserve was not met. If it does not sell, I will save it for my Chevelle. Last I checked they are not making any more original ones.
I am all for the aftermarket ones. It makes it somewhat affordable for guys to add a part they want to their hot rod. Since they are fiberglass, it would be tough to pass them as original.
Thanks,
Jason
If you would not put a reserve on it it would have probally brought what you want. Funny how it has been working that way lately. But I would probally have put a reserve on it to, afraid to take the chance. I see you do not have a reserve on your 66-67 am/fm radio. I bet it will bring alot more before the auction ends. I just don't understand ebay anymore. I list stuff once and a while. I've had a item that I thought would bring good money and had 42 people watching it, and it didn't bring as much as a item I had listed that I figured would bring less. The lesser item brought more and I only had about 10 people watching. Lot of tire kickers. I have a bunch of NOS parts I need to list, afraid to as if I put reserves on them it costs more and usually do not sell. I list them without the reserve I may not get what I want. And if I list them for the bare min of what I want I usually don't get any bids. Everyone wants to bid on 99 cent auction. With 30 seconds to go. I had a guy e-mail me all pissed off because I had a item selling that didn't have a bid until the last minute, and this bidder got outbid with 10 seconds to go. He offered me more money if I would sell it to him instead of the high bidder!!! I did not. I told him that if he wanted it he should have placed a higher bid.
Jason, Comparisons are relative based on condition and buyers desires. I've sold a lot of used GM and NOS parts. As soon as a part is altered, even if rare, the value diminishes. But there are those who value a part nonetheless. From cetain owners standpoints I think an accurately reproduced part would have greater desire and present itself better than a part that has been modified. A purist does not want a cut up part. And there is the option for the purchase of said used part and resore it, if the buyer so desires.
Shawn, I've sold the same NOS parts over a long time frame for different prices and it all depends on who's shopping at any given moment. It's like going to the casino. Watchers don't mean anything, most are not interested, they are using your sale as a basis on which to sell their own parts. Reserves sometimes scare people because people think you know what it's worth. You have to understand buying parts for some people is a rush. And the bidding for a rare part sometimes goes high because of the bidders psyche and the desire for the part. I've gotten a lot more for some NOS parts that I thought I ever would. Sometimes not enough. Never took a hit, but not always as high. It's not a store, it's a gambling house.
66CHEVELLE138 Jan 17th, 10, 12:08 PM you hit the nail on the head on that one, it IS truely a gambling house!
Dropzilla Jan 17th, 10, 4:47 PM The amount it didnt sell for was amazing.
jaf6738 Jan 17th, 10, 5:55 PM The amount it didnt sell for was amazing.
+1 The part was cut up and re-fitted, and not complete. The days of stupid prices on stuff like that, on ebay are over.
Chris R Jan 18th, 10, 1:40 AM +1 The part was cut up and re-fitted, and not complete. The days of stupid prices on stuff like that, on ebay are over.
Well I dont know about that persay but I see what you mean, the way people look at thier finances and the economy being the way it is. It certainly opens peoples eyes before they open thier wallets. It will probably be that way for quite some time too, even after that time comes where things get better financially.
Dropzilla Jan 18th, 10, 8:28 PM Whens that?
SuperNovaSS Jan 19th, 10, 10:16 PM I just logged in and realized I missed what was going on here. I appreciate all the input. Thanks for the kind words James.
I stopped the no reserve thing on my auctions about a year ago since bidders seemed to be waiting until the very last second to bid. That is perfectly OK, in fact I do it myself most of the time. The problem as a seller is if anything happens in the auction such as a bid retraction, the whole auction can crash. I do not think it is fair to end auctions early so it puts me in a tough spot. If a bidder retracts a bid because they are a deadbeat, it can bring a perfectly good part to question. I have no control over this other than blocking bidders who retract bids for no good reason. I decided to try the no reserve thing again starting last week. We'll see how it goes. It definitely makes the auction more exciting for the buyer and seller.
In regards to the cowl plenum, I didn't realize there is a metal reproduction available. I stand corrected. I agree that modified parts bring significantly less, which they should. I may put the air cleaner up at no reserve. I sell a lot of "rare" parts but I don't think I will come across another one of these any time soon. Now that I have been told by many that it is Chevelle, I may use it on my 360HP 66 Chevelle. I really think it belongs on a L78 car though. Anyway, enough of my rambling. I appreciate everyone's input.
Thanks,
Jason:beers:
66 MYSTERY CHEVELLE Jan 19th, 10, 11:18 PM The Repro Cowl Plenum even fits better than the originals in my opinion. If you really want to sell the original, buy the repro duct from Nelson, about $300 and sell it as a complete unit.
Good Luck~
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