I think I like this!

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Hey, do you guys think I could break it?

Looks awesome, but he was still letting off between shifts. I wonder if it's too much stress to just power shift all the way through?

What's the price tag on something like this? If they make it for Chevy's atleast :D

keisler makes a bunch of trans for chevy's....I think amongst other things they require some major tunnel mods to get them in. I heard Mccleod was making a new 5 speed for "A" body's that requires no tunnel mods and is supposed to be pretty good. Sow some write ups on it from SEMA

Ray they make the 5 speed called the sure fit that I understand needs no tunnel modifications for the A body

I got a monthly newsletter from them but I don't know how to post it. Its probably availabe on their web site. Here is part of it.

Dear Enthusiast,

A couple of weeks ago at the Performance Race Industry (PRI) in Orlando Florida, we unveiled an exciting new product for the motorsports industry - the Keisler Road & Track 6-Speed with Clutchless Up/Down Shifts, High Torque Capacity of 1000 LB-FT+, and rapid low effort shifts over 8500rpm - as fast as you can move your shifter!! Not to be confused with other aftermarket offerings where the factory gears are modified after-the-fact with a dog ring or faceplate rin, this product offer TRUE CLUTCHLESS SHIFTING with ALL NEW GEARS, SHAFTS, SHIFT FORKS made for us under EXCLUSIVE contract by a world leader in this technology - Pfitzner of Australia. This Keisler-Pfitzner product is a DIRECT REPLACEMENT for any 1992-current Borg Warner & Tremec T56 found in Corvette, Mustang, Camaro, Trans Am, Challenger and virtually any V8 equipped muscle car, race car or truck. And the beauty is that this unit is completely street friendly, and you can it to work daily (like I do).

Here we go.

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Just looks to me like Keisler trying to keep up with the other racing transmission manufacturers. The T-56 isn't cheap to begin with, and I would think 6th gear wouldn't be of much use for a $4k-$5k race prepped transmission in an A-body....you'd have to have really low gears to use the .50 6th, and then your 1st gear would be almost useless(barring using really really tall tires). But, it does have O/D at least and you could use 5th.

Ray is right, major tunnel mods are required, the case is HUGE.

Full throttle no clutch shifts are harsh...most guys either use the clutch or let off the throttle a little to shift. Air shifted transmissions are used in those extreme full throttle and no clutch situations= $$$$$$ I bet Jim could break one....1st gear drop at 100MPH;)

I'd like to see some strip results first, in fact, if they send me one, I'll test it:thumbsup:

If that's the case that would be great...I'd be curious to see if anyone has done a write-up on that swap in the trans section.

I'd like to see some strip results first, in fact, if they send me one, I'll test it:thumbsup:

Heck, wouldn't Loader and the "GLOVE" be the real test :yes: If it's breakable, he'll be the one

I'd like to know at what weight vehicle they rate their transmission at 1000 ft. lbs. since most companies won't disclose that information without knowing vehicle weight....it's a sliding scale. A 2000lb. race car rating is a lot different than a 3800 lb. Chevelle rating.

Heck, wouldn't Loader and the "GLOVE" be the real test :yes: If it's breakable, he'll be the one
l:) You're right about that.:D

l:) You're right about that.:D

Has anyone ever wondered what Loader does with the left glove when He buys the pair?????? It's like a mystery.

Wonder If I can have them to activate my nitrous button. :hurray:

That tranny would be a great choice for a pro touring car, at least a REAL one. The dog-rings are not easy on any drivetrain components and I sure wouldn't recommend them for a daily driver for durability or just the ease of driving. Probably pretty harsh on main bearings also. It's nice to see Keisler has stepped up and filled a hole in the performance market for a true double overdrive warrior. I run 355 gears with 27.5" tires with a '95 T56 with the 2.66 first and .5 sixth gear. The chevelle needs at least 75 mph to use top gear and not hear the cam lope. If I had had them laying around, I'd swap in a set of 373's or 390 rear gears and probably be a lot happier. Haven't seen the pricetag but I'd bet it's over $4k. :yes:

Jerry

Hey Terry,,,,,,,,,,,, how did you delete your thread? Just curious just in case I'm being a jerk and actually feel bad about a topic I post and need to delete it.
:D

Hit the edit button, and do the deed.

Hit the edit button, and do the deed.

Yup! Thats all I did! I did not expect the whole thread to go but it did. The post was "iffy" to say the least and I did not want the mods to try and decide if it was crossing the line or not.

Heck, wouldn't Loader and the "GLOVE" be the real test :yes: If it's breakable, he'll be the one

I'd do my best to help them find their weak link!

Has anyone ever wondered what Loader does with the left glove when He buys the pair?????? It's like a mystery.

Wonder If I can have them to activate my nitrous button. :hurray:

I have a whole pile of them,....probably enough to outfit you and all of the nitrousheads you've created!!!!!:D:D

you could send the left gloves to the AUSSIES and Brits

Found a link to more pricing and information on the pro-touring site. http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63513 $6495 + $995 assembly + core charge(who knows how much $$$ that is), YIKES!!!! At that price I could almost buy 3 more brand new Jerico DR4s. Nice trans, but that's definitely a niche market piece.

Pretty much a regoddamdiculous price. That platform isn't something that I personally would consider. Still looking around for possible options.

I saw a video on youtube from this past years SEMA show talking about a transmission Mcleod was coming out with. Supposed to require no tunnel mods for A body's, but I don't think it mentioned a price or a release date. I'll look for the vid and see if I can post it.

Pics and a video here. Mcleod m800

http://video.stangtv.com/video/11000

Thanks, I checked that out. It was up in the trans section a while ago. It looks good but it remains to be seen if they can make their projected debut date.

Still looking around for possible options.

:noway::D

Pretty much a regoddamdiculous price. That platform isn't something that I personally would consider. Still looking around for possible options.

Thats crazy. I emailed them and asked them for priceing. I should email them again and let them know not to bother wasteing their time

Pretty much a regoddamdiculous price. That platform isn't something that I personally would consider. Still looking around for possible options.

Might I suggest looking into a slipper clutch? The Ram sintered iron unit, or a McLeod Soft Lok are good entry level choices(good for 1000HP and low 9s)....you are making a lot of power and launch VERY hard. Would be less $$$ than a new trans, and save your drivetrain parts from exploding.

Ray they make the 5 speed called the sure fit that I understand needs no tunnel modifications for the A body

I got a monthly newsletter from them but I don't know how to post it. Its probably availabe on their web site. Here is part of it.

Dear Enthusiast,

A couple of weeks ago at the Performance Race Industry (PRI) in Orlando Florida, we unveiled an exciting new product for the motorsports industry - the Keisler Road & Track 6-Speed with Clutchless Up/Down Shifts, High Torque Capacity of 1000 LB-FT+, and rapid low effort shifts over 8500rpm - as fast as you can move your shifter!! Not to be confused with other aftermarket offerings where the factory gears are modified after-the-fact with a dog ring or faceplate rin, this product offer TRUE CLUTCHLESS SHIFTING with ALL NEW GEARS, SHAFTS, SHIFT FORKS made for us under EXCLUSIVE contract by a world leader in this technology - Pfitzner of Australia. This Keisler-Pfitzner product is a DIRECT REPLACEMENT for any 1992-current Borg Warner & Tremec T56 found in Corvette, Mustang, Camaro, Trans Am, Challenger and virtually any V8 equipped muscle car, race car or truck. And the beauty is that this unit is completely street friendly, and you can it to work daily (like I do).


I have the TKO-600 from Keisler..It is the "perfect fit kit"...They are incorrect, I do have to do tunnell mods. I will have to cut up my floor of my 69 Chevelle to get the trans at the correct angle..Right now it is in and it works but there is a vibration in first and reverse. Im figuring it is because of the angle. My motor is tipped to far back too...

I have the TKO-600 from Keisler..It is the "perfect fit kit"...They are incorrect, I do have to do tunnell mods. I will have to cut up my floor of my 69 Chevelle to get the trans at the correct angle..Right now it is in and it works but there is a vibration in first and reverse. Im figuring it is because of the angle. My motor is tipped to far back too...

Did your car originally have the 4 speed hump? I have heard of guys that had to modify but I think that was only if the car was originally an automatic

Definitely needs more modification than just the 4-speed hump :yes:

See the pics of bretts 66 TK0 install- that car had the orignal 4sped hump in it...

Terry, my 66 was originally a 4 speed and while I didnt put the "perfect fit" in, you would need mods regardless. I know what keisler does to make their perfect fit version and while it may make the cut smaller, I would still have had to lop off the top of my tunnel. Not worth the money IMHO.

Terry, my 66 was originally a 4 speed and while I didnt put the "perfect fit" in, you would need mods regardless. I know what keisler does to make their perfect fit version and while it may make the cut smaller, I would still have had to lop off the top of my tunnel. Not worth the money IMHO.

what he said :D

Ha, rambo beat me to it. Also see my el camino build, I put a tremec in there. Camino was not an original 4 speed car but again I dont think it would matter much. Entire tunnel had to go.

what he said :yes:

Did your car originally have the 4 speed hump? I have heard of guys that had to modify but I think that was only if the car was originally an automatic

My 69 originally had the MC-1 HD 3 speed in it. I had to cut the tunnel to get my TKO in there. Once you hit the trigger on the cut off wheel, let her fly. I love the TKO and I don't regret it one bit. In fact, I may have Liberty do a few "mods" for me.

what he said :D

what he said :yes:

:D you are still a long way from 7000 Rambo :D I see what you are up to.:boring::cool:

Last time I saw something posted about the perfect fit they "claimed" it would fit with no tunnel modifications. It would seen that claim is false! LOL. Thanks guys.

Terry, my 66 was originally a 4 speed and while I didnt put the "perfect fit" in, you would need mods regardless. I know what keisler does to make their perfect fit version and while it may make the cut smaller, I would still have had to lop off the top of my tunnel. Not worth the money IMHO.

Just to clarify, PerfectFit refers to shifter handle positioning in a console or factory location with correct handle geometry. `64-`67 A bodies are hit and miss with tunnel mods while `68-`72s are about a 95% no cut result with new body mounts and the 4 speed hump in place. New body mounts are the key to reducing or eliminating tunnel mods.

The Mcleod M800 was quoted at $2300-$2500 when I spoke to them.

Did your car originally have the 4 speed hump? I have heard of guys that had to modify but I think that was only if the car was originally an automatic

It is a true 4 speed "SS" car

Just to clarify, PerfectFit refers to shifter handle positioning in a console or factory location with correct handle geometry. `64-`67 A bodies are hit and miss with tunnel mods while `68-`72s are about a 95% no cut result with new body mounts and the 4 speed hump in place. New body mounts are the key to reducing or eliminating tunnel mods.

Jeff, that is my next step. Didnt really want to put in new body mounts but I dont want to cut the floor really either

Just to clarify, PerfectFit refers to shifter handle positioning in a console or factory location with correct handle geometry. `64-`67 A bodies are hit and miss with tunnel mods while `68-`72s are about a 95% no cut result with new body mounts and the 4 speed hump in place. New body mounts are the key to reducing or eliminating tunnel mods.


Yep, difference between when I out the TKO in with old body mounts to after new body mounts was huge.

I do think that the Keisler marketing stuff is very misleading though.

Mine was an automatic, and yes, I did have to cut the floor.

I would do it again in a heartbeat though! The shifter really does wind up in the right place.

Ron