: American Autowire question for 67
tristatechevelle Dec 19th, 09, 11:29 PM I've done a heap of using the search on here for rewireing a 67 and others and Painless and AAW keep coming up with AAW being the best from what I've been learning and man I've been learning a pile!:D with the help of you guys. I've now got the whole interior out. seats carpet dash ect. Now looking at my decrepid fuse block and the wireing genius of the previous owners (I'm being real sarcastic there ;)) and with the future additions of a nice stereo, bigger engine (Fans) MSD Ing. so on and so forth. I"ve gotta redo the harness. Dash and Engine harness's (Ext regulator yet which will be changed) I guess I'm looking at the American Auto wire as choice. NOW with that does a guy go back to their stock system they have for my 67 or put in the Highway series? 15 or 22? Has anyone put one of those in? I'm looking at my Ecklers book and the 22 looks like what I should go with? how hard is that to put in? I mean I can read and know my colors!:D Is it that easy? With the long hard cold Wisconsin winter I've got the time.:beers:
Thanks for any advice!
TLee38 Dec 20th, 09, 10:12 AM I went with the american autowire classic update wiring harness part # 500981 . I haven't gotten it yet but it is on the way. It bolts up stock with all the stock wiring and extras for cooling fans, stereo, aftermkt ac etc. I searched all over the net and Frank gave me the best price and he is a sponsor for us here at TC. Here's his info.
Frank Serafine
Prodigy Customs
Pro Touring Specialist
www.ProdigyCustoms.com
407 832 1752 Direct line
MikeMalibu Dec 20th, 09, 10:39 AM I installed the AAW Classic Update Kit, mostly because I added many accessories. Well made with quality components. Proper mix of new and repop parts. Fairly easy to install. Easy to customize. Didn't find any mistakes. If you want to move away from glass fuses and add more circuits, I'd highly recommend the Classic Update Kit if AAW has one for your model car.
tristatechevelle Dec 20th, 09, 11:00 AM Thanks guys! looks like the ticket. I'll give Frank a call.
Bryan59EC Dec 20th, 09, 6:12 PM I have had a couple of discussions with Donnie @ AAW about my 66.
(yep---gonna get my wiring from him)
Not a direct bolt in fuse box.
He tells me that the Update kits use a fusebox to fit the 68+ cars.
Some minor trimming will be needed on the pre 68 cars.
Since my car has already been painted, I will be enlarging the bulkhead hole in the firewall with a Dremel tool.-----this should keep me busy for quite a while as I don't want to burn visible color on the firewall side.
A template for the necessary trimming will be included in the kit
Musclerodz Dec 20th, 09, 7:02 PM Classic Update kit for 64-67 Chevelle is the best route to go for AAW. We have sold a bunch of kits since they were released.
bdc1013 Dec 20th, 09, 7:41 PM Classic Update kit for 64-67 Chevelle is the best route to go for AAW. We have sold a bunch of kits since they were released.
:thumbsup: you have the best prices i've been able to find, too bad i found out after i ordered my classic update kit straight from AAW :sad:
tristatechevelle Dec 20th, 09, 11:31 PM Looks like I'll be calling Musclerodz instead..lol.
wills65 Dec 21st, 09, 12:12 AM Is this kit good enough that you dont have to instll the relay setup and other associated "upgrades" to the wiring for better headlights, larger capacity alternator and electric fans and electric water pumps? I think I read a thread on here recently that Bikeron started saying that the Painless and AAW harnesses didnt really "fix" the wiring situations we deal with on these cars (as far as adding things like fans, stereo, upgraded headlights etc.) Maybe Im wrong, but there seems like more to it than just putting in a "update" harness. If Im wrong and someone knows something I dont, please fill me in.
MikeMalibu Dec 21st, 09, 9:53 AM Yes, Will, some modifications are required, but it's a better platform to start with than a stock design. For example, I used the designated electric fan wire to tickle a SPAL PWM controller for the electric fans.
aawtech Dec 21st, 09, 10:00 AM It depends on what you are running for headlamps. If using plain halogens, you'll be fine. The wire gauge is upgraded in the Classic Update kit and you get new dimmer and lamp switches as well. With the heavier wiring and new switches, you should have little to no voltage drop with the new Classic Update kit lamp-wise. If you are running some crazy, high draw lamps, then relays would probably be in order and are not included. Wiring enhancement relays into a car is typically a good "band-aid" fix when using your original 40+ year old wiring. Between the old wiring and switches, voltage drops are imminent and do occur. Again, with all new properly engineered wiring and switches, relays are not really necessary unless you are using something that draws way over the stock configurations.
Any electric fan will require a fan relay. That relay is not included with the new kit. The trigger wire to turn that relay on is in fact included as a dedicated, fused circuit. You simply tie that into the 85 or 86 circuit on your fan relay. If you purchased a fan and a relay was not included, we do offer them separately.
Donny
wills65 Dec 21st, 09, 11:55 PM Cool. Tanks for setting me straight on the harness's capability. I will be running the Delta-Tech H4 headlamps and wanted to install 2 HID kits (one for the high, one for the low). Would that be too much of a draw on the system? I know that the HID kits typically draw less power than a regular halogen bulb or original style sealed beam.
Sorry for the hijack. Could be helpful to anyone thinking about it though.
aawtech Dec 22nd, 09, 8:56 AM Cool. Tanks for setting me straight on the harness's capability. I will be running the Delta-Tech H4 headlamps and wanted to install 2 HID kits (one for the high, one for the low). Would that be too much of a draw on the system? I know that the HID kits typically draw less power than a regular halogen bulb or original style sealed beam.
Sorry for the hijack. Could be helpful to anyone thinking about it though.
I don't know enough about the exact system you are speaking of. That Classic Update will handle about 18-20 amps on a constant draw without an issue and even a bit higher for a shorter time. You will have have to check the manufacturer's instructions, but my guess is there will be some modification necessary. Many of those aftermarket systems require that ballasts be installed in the car to operate the system. Not my cup of tea, but........ Good luck with your project and have a Merry Christmas!
Donny
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