Just curious what the site may or may not have sold for awhile back? Anyone know how many paying members there are? Or what would be the going rate for something like this.

I'm positive it went for more than what's in my checking account.:D

I give this tread little chance of getting a response, or for that matter to not be deleted. I thought the same way however because I would think more money is made from memebership then by sponsor support. I don't think you iwll ever find out.

A total of 23 now I think



j/k :D

I doubt that anyone knows except the owners maybe.

My list shows 1806 "active"(?) but it is an old list.
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Why would the thread be deleted? Just a simple question. I was just wondering what a website collector would pay for a site like this? The new owner is an automotive website collector and I was wondering what the appeal is? Money or just an addtion to his collection? I can see this site making a couple of dollars, just not alot. 50,000 plus non paying members, and around 1700? paying dues. I guess there is a little room for profit, but not much. He needs to do some house cleaning and maybe a promotion to get more paying members. The site is worth it.

The sites value does not lie with how many paying members it has... although that does generate some revenue. The main profit has direclty to do with how many visitors per day it recieves.... Becuase that equates directly to how much interest advertisors have with putting their ads on the site.

Web sites can track where its visitors link in from... So sites like this one with a ton of people viewing them become prime advertising space- because a large percentage of visitors to this site will inevitably click one of the advertising links on the page.

So advertisers pay site owners to host their ads, hoping for a large number of hits.

Sucsessful sites with large user bases generate a lot of advertising hits, so i'm sure the big advertisers pay well.

Why would the thread be deleted? The site is worth it.

My thought was because somewhere down the road someone would bring up a site vendor (bashing) or if it got too personal to the owner it might be closed for those reasons. Lastly if the thread went in the wrong direction bringing up some issues that some members are not happy about. I do agree this is a wonderful site! When Al and Dot owned this site it felt more like a family diner then a website. I'm still waiting to see where it goes before I renew again.:beers:

Other than all the posts with everyone bitching about the site now how does it feel any different than when Al & Dot owned it? All the same people are posting as before it was sold. All the same questions and answers. All the same tech info. All the same useless post. There are a few more ads but other than that it's the same site it has always been. Paying members don't see all the same ads as non-paying members.
James

The simple facts are,
Al and Dot owned the "team" sites.
The workload of running these sites was more than Al and Dot could handle.
They were approached by a Corp. that saw an opportunity to make money.
They came to an agreement with the Corp. and the sites were sold..




As for what Al and Dot got for the "team" sites,,, It's non of our business!!!!!!

The simple facts are,
Al and Dot owned the "team" sites.
The workload of running these sites was more than Al and Dot could handle.
They were approached by a Corp. that saw an opportunity to make money.
They came to an agreement with the Corp. and the sites were sold..




As for what Al and Dot got for the "team" sites,,, It's non of our business!!!!!!

Thats pretty much how I see it too. Pretty simple.

:yes:

I love this site . The friends I have made here are priceless . I dont care what it is worth dollar wise . I cant put a dollar value on the amount of info gained here .Maybe its just me , but I am thankful that Al and Dot were able to let someone else take care of their sites so that they can enjoy some less stressful activities .They birthed this baby and nurtured it to what it is now and they deserve time to themselves . I havent been here long but I enjoy reading as much as I can and will continue to support the new owners because that is what I think Al and Dot want us to do.

As for what Al and Dot got for the "team" sites,,, It's non of our business!!!!!!

Sorry, but I totally dissagree. And I didn't drag anybodys name into this as you did. As a paying member who also supports its sponsors, I don't see any harm in asking what a site like this might bring on the open market. Its just conversation. All of us who pay memebership dues could almost also be considered stock holders. So whats the harm in asking? Theres no bashing intented, but obviously I struck a nerve.

When Al and Dot owned this site it felt more like a family diner then a website. I'm still waiting to see where it goes before I renew again.:beers:
I've been here a day or two, I don't notice anything any different than it has been in the past! Seems to me it's always the same people here day after day, interacting the same way we have for many years.

Except for for it seems like a bunch of non supporting members carping about what a lousy place it seems to be here lately, and that they are going to go somewhere else. And as far as renewing, I don't believe I have ever seen a flag by your name, so I don't think there is a renewing process for non supporting members.


Rocky

The value of this site is a moving target. As Autoforums aggregates more sites with common interests (especially for vendors) they can make better deals and offer more to advertisers.
At one time, Al was considering getting out from under all the work and costs of running the sites. Many suggestions were made that he accept money from site users to help with the cost of supporting the site. There were no advertisers at that time. Prospects for advertisers were still dim at that time. (Al made the remark something like "he could not sell a rack of lamb to the Donner party".) Al caved in and accepted the idea of paid memberships. The rest is history. One could speculate that any site that could get users to pay had users who would buy things, too.

With the commercial success of this site, several have stated that they would re-consider paying for a membership. The willingness of the site members to buy from good vendors is likely undiminished by new ownership.

Just for the sake of curiosity, it would be interesting to know the value of any web site but to me it's sorta like asking your friends how much money they make.

Tree fitty!

And as far as renewing, I don't believe I have ever seen a flag by your name, so I don't think there is a renewing process for non supporting members.


Rocky
And you are as blind as a bat too!! I was a suporting member for two years for Jul-06 to Jul-08. If you don't believe me look it up, and that little red writing say if you want to renew click here must be some sort of dream too! Secondly, I'm not complaining about anything so you must also be confused also.:confused:

Except for for it seems like a bunch of non supporting members carping about what a lousy place it seems to be here lately, and that they are going to go somewhere else. And as far as renewing, I don't believe I have ever seen a flag by your name, so I don't think there is a renewing process for non supporting members.


Rocky
So what Rocky are you going to take a shot at other Non Supporting members too like Mr69, 67T56ELKY, Jimmac,Wills65, etc next?

And $19.95 will take all my money to feed my children too... Come on get real! The reason I didn't renew then was because while I was on vacation my membership expired and three days later while I was out of town they took my flag away; not even a week grace period. Yes it kind of tick me off.

I'm sorry God Rocky; I'll go hide under my rock of un-supporting member again, and did it ever occur to you if you want to talk about non supporting members you can alway use the members only forum, or is that what your doing now..... No I'm sorry your private messaging.

This one: Your Team Membership expired on Sun, Jul 13 2008 Click Here if you wish to renew.

No Rocky I don't think you will say you were wrong; I don't think you're that kind of person since you assumed something without getting any facts and you made a point to single me out for something I didn't do. I could be wrong since I don't know you, but I don't think you will. I always thought some TEAM MEMBERS were clicky and you just proved it; have a nice day:yes:.

Hi Robert,:waving: hope you have a good day too!

Hi Robert,:waving: hope you have a good day too!
I'm sorry Grandsport; it just ticked me off for some reason and no not all Team members are clicky. You have a nice day too.:thumbsup:

Sorry, but I totally dissagree. And I didn't drag anybodys name into this as you did. As a paying member who also supports its sponsors, I don't see any harm in asking what a site like this might bring on the open market. Its just conversation. All of us who pay memebership dues could almost also be considered stock holders. So whats the harm in asking? Theres no bashing intented, but obviously I struck a nerve.

Sorry Curt but I don't agree with these statements. Just because you pay to use someones services or buy something from them it doesn't mean they should reveal what they are worth or how much they make. JMO
James

And you are as blind as a bat too!! I was a suporting member for two years for Jul-06 to Jul-08. If you don't believe me look it up, and that little red writing say if you want to renew click here must be some sort of dream too! Secondly, I'm not complaining about anything so you must also be confused also.:confused:

So what Rocky are you going to take a shot at other Non Supporting members too like Mr69, 67T56ELKY, Jimmac,Wills65, etc next?

And $19.95 will take all my money to feed my children too... Come on get real! The reason I didn't renew then was because while I was on vacation my membership expired and three days later while I was out of town they took my flag away; not even a week grace period. Yes it kind of tick me off.

I'm sorry God Rocky; I'll go hide under my rock of un-supporting member again, and did it ever occur to you if you want to talk about non supporting members you can alway use the members only forum, or is that what your doing now..... No I'm sorry your private messaging.

This one: Your Team Membership expired on Sun, Jul 13 2008 Click Here if you wish to renew.

No Rocky I don't think you will say you were wrong; I don't think you're that kind of person since you assumed something without getting any facts and you made a point to single me out for something I didn't do. I could be wrong since I don't know you, but I don't think you will. I always thought some TEAM MEMBERS were clicky and you just proved it; have a nice day:yes:.


Wow, all that for my one comment! That was way to much work. But I guess we are all entitled to our opinions. I read what was written and interpreted how I did. Looks like you set the record straight.

You have a nice day also!


Rocky

Sorry Curt but I don't agree with these statements. Just because you pay to use someones services or buy something from them it doesn't mean they should reveal what they are worth or how much they make. JMO
James

That fine. I appreaciate your opinion, but reserve the right to dissagree. Maybe I should just call the new owner and ask what it would take to sell the site? That might satisfy the curiousity. Or not.

Or maybe I'll get lucky and someone will just delete this whole thread.:hurray:

Or maybe I'll get lucky and someone will just delete this whole thread.:hurray:
X2!:beers:

Wow, all that for my one comment! That was way to much work. But I guess we are all entitled to our opinions. I read what was written and interpreted how I did. Looks like you set the record straight.

You have a nice day also!


Rocky
Ditto.:beers:

I certainly hate to see this post turning sour with disputes and it's an honest question which I'm sure many are curious about.

In any such transfer as a website there are disclaimers that have to be signed and one of them was no disclosure of sale price. I'm not trying to avoid the question, it's simply one that nobody can answer.
I believe they are still acquiring sites for their automotive network and disclosure of the price for any website could impact those under discussion.

Al

Al, thanks for taking time to respond. Now could someone would just close this thread?
James

Sometimes when a business is sold or purchased there are different terms. Like so much now up front and x amount over the next five years. Now lets say you were a vender here and paid x amount per year for advertisment it would be an investment to purchase a site like this. I hope they did well